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Strizi #1 Posted 13 June 2019 - 09:21 PM

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I bet i could play 440 games without a pause and i couldnt push this tank to a reasonable winrate because its rigged af sometimes. I know there are people doing 3k or whatever with t8s but really 47% :bajan::popcorn:


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All this tells me is you are doing meaningless damage.

Do damage when it matters = get a higher winrate.



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View PostExclamationMark, on 13 June 2019 - 09:28 PM, said:

All this tells me is you are doing meaningless damage.

Do damage when it matters = get a higher winrate.

 

Obviously i got all my marks and so on from the redline, thats how i got over 60% winrate with the worst t8 (t34-2), i went to the redline and shot he because he always does dmg but with this actually good tank it doesnt work :mellow:

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I didn't say you were redlining, I said you were doing meaningless damage. Likely during end-game when it's already lost.

Strizi #5 Posted 13 June 2019 - 09:50 PM

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View PostExclamationMark, on 13 June 2019 - 09:46 PM, said:

I didn't say you were redlining, I said you were doing meaningless damage. Likely during end-game when it's already lost.

 

Nah come on that answer is too easy, my usual winrate nowadays couldnt be possible if i did what you say.

anonym_buNSL9e2tZp3 #6 Posted 13 June 2019 - 09:52 PM

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Wouldn't dream of trying to change your mind. Game is as fixed as a slug race where one of the slugs is stapled to the floor. 

 

Things like 22 aimed shots missing in a row in a tank with 60% accuracy. How can that happen without the influence of drugs, alcohol or the server deciding to screw you?



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View PostStrizi, on 13 June 2019 - 08:21 PM, said:

I bet i could play 440 games without a pause and i couldnt push this tank to a reasonable winrate because its rigged af sometimes. I know there are people doing 3k or whatever with t8s but really 47% :bajan::popcorn:

 

1. Sample size too small to make for a meaningful statistic. You played 44 games with a 47.73% win rate.

 

2. Prove it arthur!

 

3. Easy the OP has now played 107 games in the same M26 Pershing. Same tank, same guy playing, but the number of games has crept over 100. Guess what? His win rate is now 56.07%! The wn8 has gone down a little bit to 3,225.06 but thats still excellent.

 


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View Postarthurwellsley, on 13 June 2019 - 09:58 PM, said:

 

1. Sample size too small to make for a meaningful statistic. You played 44 games with a 47.73% win rate.

 

2. Prove it arthur!

 

3. Easy the OP has now played 107 games in the same M26 Pershing. Same tank, same guy playing, but the number of games has crept over 100. Guess what? His win rate is now 56.07%! The wn8 has gone down a little bit

 

 

Wrong, the winrate was above 60 and went down to 56 with this session over the last 2 days, i have other tanks to that got cursed by the matchmaker, sitting there with shitty winrate but 3rd moe. Yeah probably its all the redline camping and so on :trollface: i mean i got pissed of so much i even mounted improved equipment on a t8 for the first time the last 10-20 games but it doesnt help.

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arthurwellsley #9 Posted 13 June 2019 - 10:08 PM

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View PostStrizi, on 13 June 2019 - 09:02 PM, said:

 

Wrong, the winrate was above 60 and went down to 56 with this session over the last 2 days, i have other tanks to that got cursed by the matchmaker, sitting there with shitty winrate but 3rd moe. Yeah probably its all the redline camping and so on :trollface: i mean i got pissed of so much i even mounted improved equipment on a t8 for the first time the last 10-20 games but it doesnt help.

 

Thats my point. You cannot make broad assertions based on a mere handful of games. Each sample size has to be at least one hundred games. Your win rate in one day over 20-25 games is a meaningless statistically as the sample size is too small to make it a reliable indicator of either the tank or the player.

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 13 June 2019 - 10:08 PM, said:

 

Thats my point. You cannot make broad assertions based on a mere handful of games. Each sample size has to be at least one hundred games. Your win rate in one day over 20-25 games is a meaningless statistically as the sample size is too small to make it a reliable indicator of either the tank or the player.

 

The sample size doesnt matter, i got some time i will keep playing for a while. The winrate will not go up :trollface: the matchmaker rigged my tank :popcorn:

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View PostStrizi, on 13 June 2019 - 09:31 PM, said:

 

The sample size doesnt matter, i got some time i will keep playing for a while. The winrate will not go up :trollface: the matchmaker rigged my tank :popcorn:

 

Bet you're using the tinfoil from making that popcorn, yay recycling!

Strizi #12 Posted 13 June 2019 - 11:19 PM

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View PostDorander, on 13 June 2019 - 11:10 PM, said:

 

Bet you're using the tinfoil from making that popcorn, yay recycling!

 

:harp::great:

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'Small sample size'.. blah blah

MOE is ALL about small sample size.

Game is rigged. Simple.

For me this evening i played a game with skorp.
Missed every single fully aimed shot. Not one went near to centre of aiming circle. 5 skill crew, food, equipment.

Such bs rng.

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View PostN00BT00B, on 13 June 2019 - 11:26 PM, said:

'Small sample size'.. blah blah

MOE is ALL about small sample size.

Game is rigged. Simple.

For me this evening i played a game with skorp.
Missed every single fully aimed shot. Not one went near to centre of aiming circle. 5 skill crew, food, equipment.

Such bs rng.

 

There is also the unpredictable variable of connection speeds, both that of the enemy and yours, which can have adverse effects if someone's ping suddenly doubles during aiming and shooting.



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View PostN00BT00B, on 13 June 2019 - 10:26 PM, said:

'Small sample size'.. blah blah

MOE is ALL about small sample size.

Game is rigged. Simple.

For me this evening i played a game with skorp.
Missed every single fully aimed shot. Not one went near to centre of aiming circle. 5 skill crew, food, equipment.

Such bs rng.

 

Sure pal. The game detects when you're interested in getting MOEs by using cosmic rays to read your mind.

 

Did it ever occur to you that if you never had bad luck, it wouldn't be random?



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View PostN00BT00B, on 13 June 2019 - 10:26 PM, said:

'Small sample size'.. blah blah

MOE is ALL about small sample size.

Game is rigged. Simple.

For me this evening i played a game with skorp.
Missed every single fully aimed shot. Not one went near to centre of aiming circle. 5 skill crew, food, equipment.

Such bs rng.

 

Arthurwellsley mentioned you need a sample size of at least 100.  Guess what the sample size for MoE is.

 

Getting random rng does not mean it is rigged.  You've played nearly 50k battles, you shouldn't be surprised to get runs of bad rng rolls in a sample size that big.  Of course it's just skill when your shots go where you aimed, or not where you aimed but cause damage anyway. 

 

How many fully aimed shots did you fire in this example we're supposed to take as conclusive proof btw?  How many of your crew skills & which equipiment made the shots more likely to hit?  At what range?  Replay?



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View PostDorander, on 13 June 2019 - 11:44 PM, said:

 

Sure pal. The game detects when you're interested in getting MOEs by using cosmic rays to read your mind.

 

Did it ever occur to you that if you never had bad luck, it wouldn't be random?

 

Something like 16 battles and only one win when using xp boost?



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I blame todays math teachers. Kids nowadays dont even understand the basics of how statistics work, while at the same time there is no shortage of statistical claims. 

 

Stop eating crayons while at school, boys :D



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View PostEchotun, on 14 June 2019 - 05:12 AM, said:

I blame todays math teachers. Kids nowadays dont even understand the basics of how statistics work, while at the same time there is no shortage of statistical claims. 

 

Stop eating crayons while at school, boys :D

 

Thank you for the input.

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View PostSloow_Mo, on 14 June 2019 - 05:22 AM, said:

 

Thank you for the input.

 

Happy to help :)

 

After watching a dokumentary about flat earth believers its not that hard to believe that uneducated people can and will convince themselves of all sorts of nonsense :D


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