Jump to content


WG lied to us about VK72.01k

update rebalanced lied vk7201k 1.5.1

  • Please log in to reply
46 replies to this topic

Captain_Kremen0 #21 Posted 14 June 2019 - 07:43 AM

    Captain

  • Player
  • 38688 battles
  • 2,174
  • [TFMB] TFMB
  • Member since:
    06-04-2011

View PostAhch_To, on 14 June 2019 - 06:39 AM, said:

 

 

But..that same tank is now on free sale for every player on console version of the game.


 

 

Sorry to pick on you but I have a low tolerance for some the idiots in this particular thread.today

Ahch_To #22 Posted 14 June 2019 - 07:47 AM

    Private

  • Player
  • 439 battles
  • 30
  • Member since:
    05-03-2019

View PostTheDrownedApe, on 14 June 2019 - 07:43 AM, said:

 

Yes

 

Good

 

 

 

  So my point is, if same tank is not anymore exclusivity in same game but on another platform, how is it anymore such exclusivity in this game in general ?

 

It is selled though for large ammount of Xp (450 000 I think), that means its hard to buy it for people who didnt played game alot, which is I suppose fair.

 


 


Edited by Ahch_To, 14 June 2019 - 07:53 AM.


CornDaFlakes #23 Posted 14 June 2019 - 07:53 AM

    Warrant Officer

  • Player
  • 32435 battles
  • 591
  • [OXIDE] OXIDE
  • Member since:
    12-09-2013

I feel the same way the VK72 has craparmour lower plate and side plates are crap, there is no way to make your armour effective.

 

That tanks.gg model is bugged.



TheDrownedApe #24 Posted 14 June 2019 - 07:56 AM

    Lieutenant General

  • Player
  • 48400 battles
  • 6,178
  • [IDEAL] IDEAL
  • Member since:
    03-27-2013

View PostAhch_To, on 14 June 2019 - 06:47 AM, said:

 

  So my point is, if same tank is not anymore exclusivity in same game but on another platform, how is it anymore such exclusivity in this game in general ?

 

It is selled though for large ammount of Xp (450 000) I think, that means its hard to buy it for people who didnt played game alot, which is I suppose fair.
 

 

[sighs]



Ahch_To #25 Posted 14 June 2019 - 07:56 AM

    Private

  • Player
  • 439 battles
  • 30
  • Member since:
    05-03-2019

View PostCaptain_Kremen0, on 14 June 2019 - 07:43 AM, said:

 

Sorry to pick on you but I have a low tolerance for some the idiots in this particular thread.today

 

Well, that tank that is exclusive in one platfrom of the same game is obviously available even to "idiots" on another platform of the same game now.


I apologize I didnt understood the problem. I guess this is  reward tank in this game, but I just bought pz V /IV recently it seems it was as such exclusivity to . Dont get me wrong people I would just like to collect all German tanks one day.


Edited by Ahch_To, 14 June 2019 - 08:02 AM.


divsmo #26 Posted 14 June 2019 - 08:01 AM

    Staff Sergeant

  • Player
  • 35540 battles
  • 431
  • [BEXF] BEXF
  • Member since:
    07-08-2012

View PostAhch_To, on 14 June 2019 - 06:56 AM, said:

 

Well, that tank that is exclusive in one platfrom of the same game is obviously available even to "idiots" on another platform of the same game now.


 

I apologize I didnt understood the problem. I guess this is some kind of reard tank in this game, but I just bought pz V /IV recently it seems it was as such exclusivity to.

It's the same game in name but that's about as far as it goes, there's many tanks on console which aren't in the pc game. 



Ahch_To #27 Posted 14 June 2019 - 08:10 AM

    Private

  • Player
  • 439 battles
  • 30
  • Member since:
    05-03-2019

 

 

What if  in a  Black Market ,one day,  Wargaming would offer  chance of buying Vk 72.01 (k) for ,let me see, 2  000 000 of free experience?

Would  this be acceptable to the community in here?


 


Edited by Ahch_To, 14 June 2019 - 08:12 AM.


divsmo #28 Posted 14 June 2019 - 08:17 AM

    Staff Sergeant

  • Player
  • 35540 battles
  • 431
  • [BEXF] BEXF
  • Member since:
    07-08-2012

View PostAhch_To, on 14 June 2019 - 07:10 AM, said:

 

 

What if  in a  Black Market ,one day,  Wargaming would offer  chance of buying Vk 72.01 (k) for ,let me see, 2  000 000 of free experience?

Would  this be acceptable to the community in here?


 

Personally i've never played clan wars so it wouldn't bother me too much, but i'm sure those that have put the time and effort into grinding for it would be pretty annoyed.



Enherjaren #29 Posted 14 June 2019 - 08:21 AM

    Warrant Officer

  • Player
  • 66925 battles
  • 593
  • [DOUBT] DOUBT
  • Member since:
    05-04-2011
Funny no one has mentioned you can shot it straight through the gun mantle. 

Ahch_To #30 Posted 14 June 2019 - 08:26 AM

    Private

  • Player
  • 439 battles
  • 30
  • Member since:
    05-03-2019

View Postdivsmo, on 14 June 2019 - 08:17 AM, said:

Personally i've never played clan wars so it wouldn't bother me too much, but i'm sure those that have put the time and effort into grinding for it would be pretty annoyed.

 

My kids started to play Wot on console, and attracted me to Wot on PC. So first of all I am total newb. But the move on concole is interesting, because just as in this game, a player cant obtain large ammounts of free XP so easily. It requiers a lot of playing, and can only partialy be boosted by money, (converting) but still requiers a lot of playing to get convertible XP.   So, as an market analyst I found peculiarity(an indicator) in decision of this company for VK 72.01 (k) to be sold on console for high ammount of XP, that means limiting who can purchase this tank, as even money is not enough, player must play alot.

If let say pz VK 72.01 k would be offered in PC  version for 1-2 million free XP that would mean only people who play alot would be able to get it, which in the end makes same thing as people who play in clan wars(personally I dont even know what clan wars are jet).This way peple who does not like Clan wars but are playing game alot, would be able to get a grip on this tank. Just my thoughts.


Edited by Ahch_To, 14 June 2019 - 08:28 AM.


TankkiPoju #31 Posted 14 June 2019 - 08:36 AM

    Lieutenant General

  • Player
  • 22771 battles
  • 6,967
  • [-MM] -MM
  • Member since:
    05-20-2011

Can you still just shoot frontally through PzKpfw VII's gun to damage it?

 



barison1 #32 Posted 14 June 2019 - 08:48 AM

    Lieutenant

  • Player
  • 42079 battles
  • 1,698
  • [MEME] MEME
  • Member since:
    01-14-2012

View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 13 June 2019 - 10:00 PM, said:

The clan version has a weak lower plate, but impenetrable sides when angled well.

 

The tech tree version has incredible frontal armor, but a failry-easy-to-hit weakpoing on the side armor.

 

CW and tech tree version have near exact same armor layout, just a differend gun.

 

tanks.gg doesnt show models right



Kirtiklis #33 Posted 14 June 2019 - 08:49 AM

    Corporal

  • Player
  • 38009 battles
  • 103
  • [STLT] STLT
  • Member since:
    05-16-2013

Yep, they nerfed front plate, so now all can pen easily. Also side cheeks easy pen if little angle, dont forget easy pen mantlet...

 

Vk is not Obj. Germans cant have superior TX tank. All TX - easy snacks for the objcts, not a single tank can compete vs bobjects.



barison1 #34 Posted 14 June 2019 - 08:50 AM

    Lieutenant

  • Player
  • 42079 battles
  • 1,698
  • [MEME] MEME
  • Member since:
    01-14-2012

View PostEnherjaren, on 14 June 2019 - 08:21 AM, said:

Funny no one has mentioned you can shot it straight through the gun mantle. 

 

still better than e100 turret atleast that is butter ish flat on :hiding:

tajj7 #35 Posted 14 June 2019 - 09:00 AM

    Field Marshal

  • Player
  • 27569 battles
  • 15,265
  • [RGT] RGT
  • Member since:
    03-30-2014

View PostTheDrownedApe, on 14 June 2019 - 06:27 AM, said:

i've been noticing lately that tanks.gg is not that good anymore. i looked for the updated armour changes for the T9/10 meds and they show exactly the same for 1.5.0 nad 1.5.1 even though WG said they buffed the turret. So they either didn't buff the turret (TYpe 61 and STB) or tanks.gg is off.

 

OP i feel your pain. I did notice a while ago that i could easily pen the LFP but thought i had the two models mixed up (im old). I need to remember the mantlet on one and the LFP on the other :(

 

Don't think Type 61 had any turret armour changed, but you can definitely see the changes in the STB-1

 

------------------------------------

 

WOT inspector has the 72.01K with an effective lower plate of about 265 - 270mm. 

 

So I think its a wrong tanks.gg model. 


Edited by tajj7, 14 June 2019 - 09:02 AM.


TheDrownedApe #36 Posted 14 June 2019 - 09:16 AM

    Lieutenant General

  • Player
  • 48400 battles
  • 6,178
  • [IDEAL] IDEAL
  • Member since:
    03-27-2013

View Posttajj7, on 14 June 2019 - 08:00 AM, said:

 

Don't think Type 61 had any turret armour changed, but you can definitely see the changes in the STB-1

 

------------------------------------

 

WOT inspector has the 72.01K with an effective lower plate of about 265 - 270mm. 

 

So I think its a wrong tanks.gg model. 

 

now i rechecked i can see the differences on the lower part of the turret (STB).

 

but still: Improved the armoring of the Type 61 turret and the hull.

 

NVM ignore me - not too clued up on tanks.gg. as the pen changed with the new patch it was showing similar colours. Just rechecked the type 61 with same gun and ammo and indeed the Type 61 turret top went from 40 to 80



Enherjaren #37 Posted 14 June 2019 - 09:35 AM

    Warrant Officer

  • Player
  • 66925 battles
  • 593
  • [DOUBT] DOUBT
  • Member since:
    05-04-2011

View PostTankkiPoju, on 14 June 2019 - 08:36 AM, said:

Can you still just shoot frontally through PzKpfw VII's gun to damage it?

 

 

works on vk 72 not sure about Pz. VII

HassenderZerhacker #38 Posted 14 June 2019 - 10:33 AM

    Lieutenant Сolonel

  • Player
  • 29823 battles
  • 3,098
  • [1DPG] 1DPG
  • Member since:
    09-09-2015

View PostEnherjaren, on 14 June 2019 - 09:35 AM, said:

 

works on vk 72 not sure about Pz. VII

 

yes, this has always worked on the Pz VII. makes it useless in close combat

Balc0ra #39 Posted 14 June 2019 - 10:48 AM

    Field Marshal

  • Player
  • 70945 battles
  • 19,592
  • [WALL] WALL
  • Member since:
    07-10-2012

View Post____gegoBcku_BepmyxaH___, on 13 June 2019 - 10:17 PM, said:

 

nope , I Have played 297 battles with Vk72.01k and it was always good ... I did a lot of mission to block dmg with VK72.01k ... it was and had good armor in front .. today I got raped from the front 

 

As with the 9999 topics about this tank before this one. Tank.gg model is confirmed to not be correct for many tanks. This inc. Most tanks there even lack a full model. Like the 5/1

 

 

View PostAhch_To, on 14 June 2019 - 07:47 AM, said:

 

  So my point is, if same tank is not anymore exclusivity in same game but on another platform, how is it anymore such exclusivity in this game in general ?

 

It is selled though for large ammount of Xp (450 000 I think), that means its hard to buy it for people who didnt played game alot, which is I suppose fair.

 


 

 

Because WOT console is not run by WG as such. Or by the same people that run WOT PC. WOT console was made by a 3rd party studio early on for 360. Then they were bought up by WG after the beta on 360 closed and got a name change "formerly day one studios, as in the studio behind F.E.A.R." But they still had the same liberty. As in do what ever they want, and take anything from the dev servers to run on their game. It's why they still have the WT auf E100 and we don't. Nor do they have CW. So tier 7 and 8 CW tanks are sold there as normal premiums, just as the campaign tanks are like the T28 HTC etc. As they don't have the same means to reward those tanks. Inc the tier X CW tanks.

 


Edited by Balc0ra, 14 June 2019 - 10:49 AM.


HassenderZerhacker #40 Posted 14 June 2019 - 10:59 AM

    Lieutenant Сolonel

  • Player
  • 29823 battles
  • 3,098
  • [1DPG] 1DPG
  • Member since:
    09-09-2015

View PostBalc0ra, on 14 June 2019 - 10:48 AM, said:

 

As with the 9999 topics about this tank before this one. Tank.gg model is confirmed to not be correct for many tanks. This inc. Most tanks there even lack a full model. Like the 5/1

 

is it possible to inspect tanks' real armor values?






1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users