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staurinsh #1 Posted 14 June 2019 - 08:57 AM

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What type of ammo really needs a nerf?

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LordMuffin #2 Posted 14 June 2019 - 09:00 AM

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Yes.

There is no reason to not shoot premium HE or HESH in the FV215 183b.

barison1 #3 Posted 14 June 2019 - 09:01 AM

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you see there is a deathstar on the enemy team, you should notice you are alone at HT flank, yet you push up inside the alley. one could wonder where it all goes wrong

 

think you need a "rebalance" instead :popcorn:



Kozzy #4 Posted 14 June 2019 - 09:01 AM

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I can see that after getting shot once you didn't think "Hey, I wonder if he will shoot me again here?", instead you seem to have thought:  "Nah, I'll stick around, should be ok"

StinkyStonky #5 Posted 14 June 2019 - 09:04 AM

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Nothing wrong.

 

You went alone to "heavy corner" and then tried to fight a Death Star in a Tier 8 heavy.

He wasted some silver (be grateful) as he would have two shotted you with standard AP.



tajj7 #6 Posted 14 June 2019 - 09:04 AM

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Yeh, you were wrong, the second you saw the 183 there you should have given up trying to poke a corridor alone. 

XxKuzkina_MatxX #7 Posted 14 June 2019 - 09:05 AM

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  • A bottom tier heavy going alone to a flank no one designated as the heavy flank OR as important.
  • Going further inside the hangar knowing you got no support and eventually something like the FV will kill you with HESH.
  • Tanks shooting HESH don't need to aim to take away huge chunks of your HP.

 

What's right though is your team going to good positions around J5/6 and all the enemy tanks coming out of the hangar will probably be dead in a cross fire!



staurinsh #8 Posted 14 June 2019 - 09:06 AM

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Nothing wrong? 800+ dmg with HE shell is ok? 2 shots and -1700dmg and that is ok. But gold ammo needs a nerf, not HE shells....

tajj7 #9 Posted 14 June 2019 - 09:08 AM

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View Poststaurinsh, on 14 June 2019 - 08:06 AM, said:

Nothing wrong? 800+ dmg with HE shell is ok? 2 shots and -1700dmg and that is ok. But gold ammo needs a nerf, not HE shells....

 

HE shells that have 1750 alpha.

Kozzy #10 Posted 14 June 2019 - 09:08 AM

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View Poststaurinsh, on 14 June 2019 - 08:06 AM, said:

Nothing wrong? 800+ dmg with HE shell is ok? 2 shots and -1700dmg and that is ok. But gold ammo needs a nerf, not HE shells....

 

He was using premium HESH, he would have two shot you with standard AP.  TBH, if I saw a VK100p on the enemy team I would probably fire premium rounds regardless what tank I was in.  Idiot-proof OP super heavies deserve all the premium spam they get.

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View PostKozzy, on 14 June 2019 - 08:08 AM, said:

 

He was using premium HESH, he would have two shot you with standard AP.  TBH, if I saw a VK100p on the enemy team I would probably fire premium rounds regardless what tank I was in.  Idiot-proof OP super heavies deserve all the premium spam they get.

 

Yeh this, I would probably do it in a tier 10 as well just because that is what it deserves. 

LordMuffin #12 Posted 14 June 2019 - 09:13 AM

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View Poststaurinsh, on 14 June 2019 - 09:06 AM, said:

Nothing wrong? 800+ dmg with HE shell is ok? 2 shots and -1700dmg and that is ok. But gold ammo needs a nerf, not HE shells....

It was an HE shell. A premium HE. Which is the shell most players fire from FV215b 183 and the FV4005.

 

Is it OK?  No. I think both of these tanks should be removed due to their guns.



staurinsh #13 Posted 14 June 2019 - 09:16 AM

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Since when vk is idiot proof? Tank is made of ammoracks, each shot in side is damaged ammorack. And you can pen it's lower plate without using skill ammo.

Tanks can stay, but HE dmg needs to be reduced because i don't see a logic. If arty 240mm gun does 500, if you are lucky 600 dmg, then why 183mm gun can do 800+?


Edited by staurinsh, 14 June 2019 - 09:18 AM.


NUKLEAR_SLUG #14 Posted 14 June 2019 - 09:17 AM

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Getting hit by a 183 once is unlucky, getting hit by the same one twice is your own fault.

Geno1isme #15 Posted 14 June 2019 - 09:17 AM

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View Poststaurinsh, on 14 June 2019 - 10:06 AM, said:

Nothing wrong? 800+ dmg with HE shell is ok? 2 shots and -1700dmg and that is ok. But gold ammo needs a nerf, not HE shells....

 

Hey, it was gold HE, so doesn't matter anyway (not that standard HE would have made a difference)

TungstenHitman #16 Posted 14 June 2019 - 09:19 AM

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Tier8 heavy tank life, what do you expect? If it wasn't the FV it was gonna be one of the other plethora of big gunned monsters sitting at the other side. Maybe not in 2 shots but not many more I guarantee you of that. Trick is to know your tier and place in a battle and not be frontline when you're bottom tier regardless of being a super heavy because it ain't super vs tier 9 and 10 lol

_6i6_ #17 Posted 14 June 2019 - 09:20 AM

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It seems to me the OP pushed his luck going where he went alone(he prolly did go there without noticing he was going alone? - first mistake), and even more so after the first shot, why would u peek against the FV when he doesnt really need to hit u directly to kill u-and if it wasnt the FV it would have been one of the other 3 enemies there!

OP..u went asking for this...
 


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Nethraniel #18 Posted 14 June 2019 - 09:22 AM

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What is wrong with the picture? I see a VK 100.01 P unsupported without any chance of leaving this narrow alley against T9+T10 tanks with a lot of pen and dmg on their guns.



staurinsh #19 Posted 14 June 2019 - 09:25 AM

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I noticed that, and i was doing mission by blocking as much dmg as i can. And i don't care hesh or regular ammo, 800+dmg shouldn't be there. I will repeat, if a 240mm gun can do 600+, then why 183mm gun can do 800+? I know it is some kind of russian logic less is better and worst russian 0.6 accuracy is better than german 0.33, but still, that is a bs.

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View Poststaurinsh, on 14 June 2019 - 09:06 AM, said:

Nothing wrong? 800+ dmg with HE shell is ok? 2 shots and -1700dmg and that is ok. But gold ammo needs a nerf, not HE shells....

 

Yes, the gun on Deathstar is broken (when it hits and/or pens) but until something magical happens:

 

Rule #1: Don't provoke a 183mm gun with 230mm pen and 1750 alpha in a fat, slow, 2 tiers lower, HP-rich pinata tank.

Rule #2: If you forget Rule #1, Don't do it again






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