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ODA297 #1 Posted 22 June 2019 - 08:19 PM

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Operation EXCALIBUR

Coalition mission 2

With honors

Stun 2 enemy vehicles with one shot.

 

To the very clever people in WARGAMING.

Apart from FRANCE, in what other country in the coalition could you do this mission????



barison1 #2 Posted 22 June 2019 - 08:25 PM

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so what? any french arty can complete that without much issue

 

besides dont you think it is quite the effort just to remove all other nations from that mission requirements apart from france just to make you happy?



XxKuzkina_MatxX #3 Posted 22 June 2019 - 08:38 PM

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Coalition: France, Czechoslovakia, Sweden and Italy.

 

Without French arty, you can't complete the secondary condition. If you must you have to grind the French arty line up to tier 6 at least!



Long_Range_Sniper #4 Posted 22 June 2019 - 08:44 PM

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View Postbarison1, on 22 June 2019 - 07:25 PM, said:

besides dont you think it is quite the effort just to remove all other nations from that mission requirements apart from france just to make you happy?

 

I seem to remember spending about 1500 gold converting free XP to get the tier VI French arty, and I don't think I've needed it since.



ODA297 #5 Posted 22 June 2019 - 08:49 PM

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View Postbarison1, on 22 June 2019 - 07:25 PM, said:

so what? any french arty can complete that without much issue

 

besides dont you think it is quite the effort just to remove all other nations from that mission requirements apart from france just to make you happy?

 

That was my point in this post, WG just narrow the posibility to achieve this mission and force us to do it on an arty and on this one is only possible on the French line.

barison1 #6 Posted 22 June 2019 - 08:51 PM

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View PostLong_Range_Sniper, on 22 June 2019 - 08:44 PM, said:

 

I seem to remember spending about 1500 gold converting free XP to get the tier VI French arty, and I don't think I've needed it since.

 

same can be said about other campaign missions that need specific tanks, besides obj279e missions for coalition has the 30/35 module crit mission which is way easier in arty, so enjoy grinding up for lorr155 51 or so

Dorander #7 Posted 22 June 2019 - 09:00 PM

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Yeah, the mission design feels more like an incentive to force people to grind more tanks (or invest gold to free exp them of course) than challenges for rewards. As a primarily German tank player I'm barely looking at the second campaign, I'd have to grind too much just to get the tanks needed to do them.

ODA297 #8 Posted 22 June 2019 - 09:02 PM

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View PostDorander, on 22 June 2019 - 08:00 PM, said:

Yeah, the mission design feels more like an incentive to force people to grind more tanks (or invest gold to free exp them of course) than challenges for rewards. As a primarily German tank player I'm barely looking at the second campaign, I'd have to grind too much just to get the tanks needed to do them.

 

I understand and I agree, WG must be on drugs!!

Dorander #9 Posted 22 June 2019 - 09:08 PM

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View PostODA297, on 22 June 2019 - 08:02 PM, said:

 

I understand and I agree, WG must be on drugs!!

 

Possibly. I imagine someone in that development meeting when asked how they could motivate players to keep investing time, effort and money into getting more tanks, responded by "You know what's better than grinding? Grinding tanks so you can grind missions! You know what's better than getting tanks you've grinded? Getting even more tanks you've grinded with missions! You can grind while you grind and get tanks to get more tanks!"

 

And then lots of booze was had to celebrate.



LordMuffin #10 Posted 22 June 2019 - 10:04 PM

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Serb was the intelligent guy at WG.

Bordhaw #11 Posted 22 June 2019 - 10:10 PM

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View PostODA297, on 22 June 2019 - 07:49 PM, said:

 

That was my point in this post, WG just narrow the posibility to achieve this mission and force us to do it on an arty and on this one is only possible on the French line.

 

Strange isnt it. Almost like they did it on purpose...

 



NekoPuffer_PPP #12 Posted 22 June 2019 - 10:13 PM

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View PostODA297, on 22 June 2019 - 09:02 PM, said:

I understand and I agree, WG must be on drugs!!

 

They want you to play their game...yeah, totally caught me off guard. I never could've imagined them wanting something like that, how horrible.

Edited by NekoPuffer_PPP, 22 June 2019 - 10:13 PM.


ExclamationMark #13 Posted 22 June 2019 - 10:21 PM

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... in your mind the French artillery has good splash radius?...

Balc0ra #14 Posted 23 June 2019 - 12:51 AM

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View PostODA297, on 22 June 2019 - 08:19 PM, said:

To the very clever people in WARGAMING.

Apart from FRANCE, in what other country in the coalition could you do this mission????

 

And that's why it's a secondary objective on 3 of the groups that only has one SPG line among several nations. Not a main objective like on the Alliance. You don't need an SPG to do the main objective. Why there are SPG missions is a different matter. But then again you could say that about block or spot missions, if the only HT you have is the 50 100 and you have not started any LT lines yet on those nations.

 

View PostODA297, on 22 June 2019 - 08:49 PM, said:

 

That was my point in this post, WG just narrow the posibility to achieve this mission and force us to do it on an arty and on this one is only possible on the French line.

 

Unless you want that gold emblem, it's not needed. And not many care for it to waste time grinding the tier 6 SPG vs just getting those 40 crits. 

 

View PostExclamationMark, on 22 June 2019 - 10:21 PM, said:

... in your mind the French artillery has good splash radius?...

 

Oh god no. Not even the high tiers. But it's still good enough to get two more so then not. As most HT lanes are not that wide, and they send more guns then they need to push it for it to take that long. 

 

 



Dorander #15 Posted 23 June 2019 - 12:54 AM

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View PostExclamationMark, on 22 June 2019 - 09:21 PM, said:

... in your mind the French artillery has good splash radius?...

 

No, in all our minds, the game has no artillery lines in the other nations that fall in that mission group. I wasn't aware of it either till I read Kuzkina_Mat's post.

OmniWalou #16 Posted 23 June 2019 - 01:33 AM

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Yeah it definitely sucks that you have to grind a French arty line to complete the Excalibur missions to get the tank.

 

Oh wait, you don't, cause they intentionally made it so that you can get the tank without any arties in from coalition nations, and arties are only needed for completing with honors. Other than that, you can use orders if you don't want to grind any arties and still get every one of the tanks without playing a single artillery. Exactly the same as in the first set of PMs.

 

Anyways, if you want to complete the missions with honors, it is only expected to be harder and to require more tanks. It's end game content after all. So complaining about it makes no sense really.



mjs_89 #17 Posted 23 June 2019 - 05:45 AM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 22 June 2019 - 08:38 PM, said:

Coalition: France, Czechoslovakia, Sweden and Italy.

 

Without French arty, you can't complete the secondary condition. If you must you have to grind the French arty line up to tier 6 at least!

 

Or you could grind the tier 6 from the AMX 12t, slap a 75% crew in it and be done with the mission in a couple of games.

cro001 #18 Posted 23 June 2019 - 06:48 AM

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View PostDorander, on 22 June 2019 - 09:00 PM, said:

Yeah, the mission design feels more like an incentive to force people to grind more tanks (or invest gold to free exp them of course) than challenges for rewards. As a primarily German tank player I'm barely looking at the second campaign, I'd have to grind too much just to get the tanks needed to do them.

 

Pretty much the same. Not that I care much, Excalibur and Chimera aren't something special and 279e is way too broken for me to play.

PowJay #19 Posted 23 June 2019 - 06:59 AM

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Fortunately for me I only owned US and UK SPGs when the Second Front campaign began. I've done all the stun missions where stun is a Primary objective. If it's any other group, for a Secondary Objective, I couldn't care less.

 

I did buy the SU-8 a second time for the Union mission to damage enemy arty. I counter-batteried for a few battles and haven't touched it since.



Rataplan #20 Posted 23 June 2019 - 07:09 AM

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There we go again with the "WG is forcing us....." mantra.

 

WG is forcing nothing. WG is only proposing stuff.

If you like it, go for it. If not, don't.

 

The game is perfectly playable without owning reward tanks, by the way.






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