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Vandalism_ #1 Posted 24 June 2019 - 12:30 PM

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I get it that we lost the match but come on! I personally killed that T71 in the first 30secs of the battle. He didn't even spot a single person. T29 was base camping the whole time 0, damage, 0 assist, 0 blocked. (might even been AFK). Seems like WG is rewarding bad gameplay on a second front for some reason.... (first one being "fair" RNG based aim/pen).

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Balc0ra #2 Posted 24 June 2019 - 12:32 PM

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They got a win bonus. You did not. Their team also did more damage to your team then your team did to theirs. Thus more bonus XP from that too. That's basically what they got.

Mimos_A #3 Posted 24 June 2019 - 12:34 PM

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They won, you didn't. Add to that the fact that you were top tier possibly shooting lower tiers, so not a lot of xp.

Kartoshkaya #4 Posted 24 June 2019 - 12:39 PM

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How is loosing good gameplay that should be rewarded ?

Vandalism_ #5 Posted 24 June 2019 - 12:48 PM

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A guy that is AFK/dies within 30secs of the match is receiving the same reward as a active/contributing guy. They didn't contribute to that win in absolutely no way 

Doesn't seem fair to me. I don't know.... :unsure:



DuncaN_101 #6 Posted 24 June 2019 - 12:52 PM

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All is fair in love and war... They say.

Let's face it this game isn't fair all the time and it doesn't need to be either.

Win the next game and call it even

Mimos_A #7 Posted 24 June 2019 - 12:52 PM

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View PostVandalism_, on 24 June 2019 - 12:48 PM, said:

A guy that is AFK/dies within 30secs of the match is receiving the same reward as a active/contributing guy. They didn't contribute to that win in absolutely no way 

Doesn't seem fair to me. I don't know.... :unsure:

 

If he would've gone AFK at the start he would have gotten 0 xp. So he at least drove around a bit and fired. You manged to shoot a few rounds, possibly at lower tiers, and lost the battle, what makes you think you deserve more than you got?

Anthony_1972 #8 Posted 24 June 2019 - 12:52 PM

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I agree completely with the OP.    It doesn't make sense that people that played well, and contributed a lot to the team, get less XP than something on the other team who did nothing at all.

 

Yes, I understand, this is how the game is set up...  Winning team gets huge bonus, loosing team doesn't.    But WHY does WG think this is good and fair ?

 

You are only 1 part of a team of 14.  In most cases, it is not your fault when your team looses.   You could have done amazing work on one flank, only to have the team evaporate on the other flank, and 3 minutes after the start of the battle, you are facing 3 against 14...  Which you obviously will loose. 

 

Is it fair when you then don't get decent XP?   I don't think so...    At the same time, the amount of money you receive is hardly affected by win or loose...

 

I think it would be more rewarding if it was the other way around.  Make XP much less dependent on win-rate, while having the big bonus on money. 

 

 



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It's fair.

https://dezgamez.wot...unt_of_base_xp :playing:



malachi6 #10 Posted 24 June 2019 - 01:05 PM

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Have you got one of these complaints about when you win and a person on the losing team does not get rewarded for their hard work?   Thought not.

 

Also, if people want to be taken seriously.  Learn to spell losing.



vasilinhorulezz #11 Posted 24 June 2019 - 01:06 PM

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View PostAnthony_1972, on 24 June 2019 - 12:52 PM, said:

But WHY does WG think this is good and fair ?

 

 

 

Because it promotes bad, passive, camping damage farming game-play. If you want more XP/credits, play for the win. Being the best in a losing battle should not be rewarded.
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View PostKartoshkaya, on 24 June 2019 - 12:39 PM, said:

How is loosing good gameplay that should be rewarded ?

 

Loose the arrows, lose the battle.

Kartoshkaya #12 Posted 24 June 2019 - 01:09 PM

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By being afk you help your team loose. That's why it's fair.

You loose you deserve less xp.

In the end, by staying afk he will loose more than you. So yeah it is fair.

 

This is important as it affects what players do in thé game. Check Frontline : Nobody cares about win or loose, everyone just want to farm prestige. Check ranked : everyone want to win to get chevrons.

 

Having a good bonus on winning is very important, if you remove this you remove the point of winning


Edited by Kartoshkaya, 24 June 2019 - 01:17 PM.


Mimos_A #13 Posted 24 June 2019 - 01:11 PM

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View PostAnthony_1972, on 24 June 2019 - 12:52 PM, said:

I agree completely with the OP.    It doesn't make sense that people that played well, and contributed a lot to the team, get less XP than something on the other team who did nothing at all.

 

Yes, I understand, this is how the game is set up...  Winning team gets huge bonus, loosing team doesn't.    But WHY does WG think this is good and fair ?

 

You are only 1 part of a team of 14.  In most cases, it is not your fault when your team looses.   You could have done amazing work on one flank, only to have the team evaporate on the other flank, and 3 minutes after the start of the battle, you are facing 3 against 14...  Which you obviously will loose. 

 

Is it fair when you then don't get decent XP?   I don't think so...    At the same time, the amount of money you receive is hardly affected by win or loose...

 

I think it would be more rewarding if it was the other way around.  Make XP much less dependent on win-rate, while having the big bonus on money. 

 

 

 

If you do well enough you make more than enough xp, even on a losing team. If you do 2k and still get only 300 on  a losing team, you have been sniping lower tier tanks, So sad...

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View PostVandalism_, on 24 June 2019 - 12:30 PM, said:

I get it that we lost the match but come on! I personally killed that T71 in the first 30secs of the battle. He didn't even spot a single person. T29 was base camping the whole time 0, damage, 0 assist, 0 blocked. (might even been AFK). Seems like WG is rewarding bad gameplay on a second front for some reason.... (first one being "fair" RNG based aim/pen).

 

It rewards winning.  If you win more you profit.

 

Why should anyone be rewarded for not doing enough to win?



ThinGun #15 Posted 24 June 2019 - 01:30 PM

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The guy did nothing but be on the winning team.  He gets all the appropriate bonuses.

 

Do you ever complain when you get rewarded for being killed early?  No - didn't think so.

 

And there is a measure that rewards your performance - it's called WN8.



bitslice #16 Posted 24 June 2019 - 01:39 PM

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yeh, I'd like to see some kind of acknowledgement of a failed carry or just not dying in the first 30 seconds,

that would offset getting the Russian bot team for ten games in a row.



mpf1959 #17 Posted 24 June 2019 - 01:40 PM

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Why is this fair in WGs POV?

 

 

 

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View PostAnthony_1972, on 24 June 2019 - 11:52 AM, said:

I agree completely with the OP.    It doesn't make sense that people that played well, and contributed a lot to the team, get less XP than something on the other team who did nothing at all.

 

Yes, I understand, this is how the game is set up...  Winning team gets huge bonus, loosing team doesn't.    But WHY does WG think this is good and fair ?

 

You are only 1 part of a team of 14.  In most cases, it is not your fault when your team looses.   You could have done amazing work on one flank, only to have the team evaporate on the other flank, and 3 minutes after the start of the battle, you are facing 3 against 14...  Which you obviously will loose. 

 

Is it fair when you then don't get decent XP?   I don't think so...    At the same time, the amount of money you receive is hardly affected by win or loose...

 

I think it would be more rewarding if it was the other way around.  Make XP much less dependent on win-rate, while having the big bonus on money. 

 

 

By your rationale nobody would WANT to win - they would just sit back camping to farm damage.

Your'e idea is crap, that's all.



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View PostVandalism_, on 24 June 2019 - 12:30 PM, said:

I get it that we lost the match but come on! I personally killed that T71 in the first 30secs of the battle. He didn't even spot a single person. T29 was base camping the whole time 0, damage, 0 assist, 0 blocked. (might even been AFK). Seems like WG is rewarding bad gameplay on a second front for some reason.... (first one being "fair" RNG based aim/pen).

Because WG thinks afking/botting should be a viable way to get through the tech tree.



Vandalism_ #20 Posted 24 June 2019 - 02:16 PM

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View PostMimos_A, on 24 June 2019 - 01:11 PM, said:

If you do well enough you make more than enough xp, even on a losing team. If you do 2k and still get only 300 on  a losing team, you have been sniping lower tier tanks, So sad...

 

What exactly i'm i supposed to do in a 0 crew skills, big, slow paper tank with low camo and view range?  Yolo @ 35km/h like that T71 did? :amazed: 

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