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StinkyStonky #1 Posted 27 June 2019 - 10:26 AM

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Last night I decided to use a Level 3 crew book (Training Manual) on the T55A crew that came with the tank.

They were on 100% but I hadn't applied an skills (when I first got them I just stuck them in the barracks).

 

The Level 3 book cost 2M credits and I thought it would give me 250k XP, which I thought would take me part way through the 2nd skill.

I investigated this morning and that's what the WG page also suggests https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/general-news/1-5-1-crew-books/

 

But my crew only wend to about 60% on their first skill !!

 

Have I missed something or is this a bug ?



R3dBaron #2 Posted 27 June 2019 - 10:40 AM

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From my experience, 1 Lvl 3 crew book takes your skills from 0% at first skill to 50% second skill.

Geno1isme #3 Posted 27 June 2019 - 10:46 AM

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That doesn't sound right. 60% in the first skill would be barely 30k Crew-XP. Are you sure you used the correct book and that the crew had no spare XP to start with, what crew played those 24 battles on your T-55A?

Note: If you're only talking about that preview when selecting the book, just ignore it.



dd_keky #4 Posted 27 June 2019 - 10:58 AM

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If your crew is 100%, and dont have skill if you apply 2m book you will get 1 perk on 100% and 2nd one on 50%.
of course before applying book you need to pick skill so its on 0%

Gremlin182 #5 Posted 27 June 2019 - 11:06 AM

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Its a great pity the crew books don't have a confirm option.

That way you can click on the book you see what effect it will have but its not applied till you click apply.

 

Its needed because for many players the result is unpredictable, we are dealing with xp points which change not just with sucessive skills but also on a sliding scale from 1-100.

Otherwise just make the books always  do the same thing no matter what stage the crew is at.


Edited by Gremlin182, 27 June 2019 - 11:07 AM.


DaddysLittlePrincess #6 Posted 27 June 2019 - 11:10 AM

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Are you sure that you used lvl 3 crew book and not the lvl 1 you got for free?

Balc0ra #7 Posted 27 June 2019 - 11:12 AM

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View PostGremlin182, on 27 June 2019 - 11:06 AM, said:

Its a great pity the crew books don't have a confirm option.

That way you can click on the book you see what effect it will have but its not applied till you click apply.

 

It does. As in the green up arrow next to each crew icon. Indicating the jump in %.

 

And I've not bought many book so far. But each one gets me to 50% on the 2nd skill. Not 60% on the first. As the 20K book is enough to get to 50% on the first skill alone. So you're sure you did not use the other books?



Miepie #8 Posted 27 June 2019 - 11:56 AM

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Was the crew at 50% of their inital training instead of 100%?

Geno1isme #9 Posted 27 June 2019 - 12:13 PM

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View PostMiepie, on 27 June 2019 - 12:56 PM, said:

Was the crew at 50% of their inital training instead of 100%?

 

You can't use crew books when the crew is under 100%.

StinkyStonky #10 Posted 27 June 2019 - 12:29 PM

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Thanks guys, I'll double check when I get home and probably raise a support ticket.

 

Some things are for sure ...

1) the crew was 100% (you can't apply the book if they aren't).

2) the crew seemed to get the XP from training booklet (20k XP) not a Training Manual (150k XP)

3) the crew might have played a few battles (I now have 4 German Premium Meds !!) but not many

4) the battles played in the 55A are with a 3 skill crew from another tank.

5) My account is down 2M credits (I was over 12M).



Homer_J #11 Posted 27 June 2019 - 12:50 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 27 June 2019 - 11:12 AM, said:

 

It does. As in the green up arrow next to each crew icon. Indicating the jump in %.

I just noticed that today, it wasn't there the last time I looked at the crew books so it's been added by one of the patches since.

 

At least now you can see what you are getting for your money.... but only after you have spent it since you can't select a crew book you don't have.

 

View PostStinkyStonky, on 27 June 2019 - 12:29 PM, said:

Thanks guys, I'll double check when I get home and probably raise a support ticket.

 

Some things are for sure ...

 

 

Did you buy a Russian crew book instead of a German one?

Edited by Homer_J, 27 June 2019 - 12:50 PM.


Geno1isme #12 Posted 27 June 2019 - 12:58 PM

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View PostStinkyStonky, on 27 June 2019 - 01:29 PM, said:

3) the crew might have played a few battles (I now have 4 German Premium Meds !!) but not many

 

You don't need many battles to get to 60% in the first skill, esp. with all the XP boosts we get these days. With personal boosters it's not that hard to earn 5k crew-XP in a single battle.

 

View PostStinkyStonky, on 27 June 2019 - 01:29 PM, said:

5) My account is down 2M credits (I was over 12M).

 

Buying and using the book are two separate actions. My guess is that you used a training booklet (either the free one from the patch, or one earned from a merit box) instead if the training manual as it was selected by default. And the crew already had like 10k crew-XP collected, so you end up with 60%.


Edited by Geno1isme, 27 June 2019 - 12:59 PM.


Balc0ra #13 Posted 27 June 2019 - 02:23 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 27 June 2019 - 12:50 PM, said:

I just noticed that today, it wasn't there the last time I looked at the crew books so it's been added by one of the patches since.

 

At least now you can see what you are getting for your money.... but only after you have spent it since you can't select a crew book you don't have.

 

Yeah it was added in one of the last mirco patches. And yeah you can only check after you got the book. Not prior to it. But crew XP calculators are still free. So you can check via those before you get a book for now.



SaintMaddenus #14 Posted 27 June 2019 - 02:40 PM

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View PostGeno1isme, on 27 June 2019 - 12:13 PM, said:

 

You can't use crew books when the crew is under 100%.

 

Which really peed me off.   but make sense.  If you could buy for credits the equivalent of the 100% crew training that costs gold..... then you need less gold... therefore less would be bought.. so.  it makes business sense, just annoying.

Hedgehog_small_tanks #15 Posted 27 June 2019 - 02:51 PM

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Why have you even got a crew trained on the T55A? It is a premium tank.

 

I did try to apply a booklet or whatever to a tank that was sat in a premium vehicle but were trained on a silver vehicle. I had to put them back in that silver tech tree tank to apply the training.  I did of course slap my forehead and say "D'oh!" as I did that.


Edited by Hedgehog_small_tanks, 27 June 2019 - 02:53 PM.


Dorander #16 Posted 27 June 2019 - 03:12 PM

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View PostHedgehog_small_tanks, on 27 June 2019 - 01:51 PM, said:

Why have you even got a crew trained on the T55A? It is a premium tank.

 

I did try to apply a booklet or whatever to a tank that was sat in a premium vehicle but were trained on a silver vehicle. I had to put them back in that silver tech tree tank to apply the training.  I did of course slap my forehead and say "D'oh!" as I did that.

 

Crew comes with it when you earn it.

Geno1isme #17 Posted 27 June 2019 - 03:20 PM

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View PostSaintMaddenus, on 27 June 2019 - 03:40 PM, said:

Which really peed me off.   but make sense.  If you could buy for credits the equivalent of the 100% crew training that costs gold..... then you need less gold... therefore less would be bought.. so.  it makes business sense, just annoying.

 

Yep. Was to be expected as we have the same restriction for converting Free- into Crew-XP.

 

View PostHedgehog_small_tanks, on 27 June 2019 - 03:51 PM, said:

Why have you even got a crew trained on the T55A? It is a premium tank.

 

Because you automatically get a free 100% crew when obtaining the T-55A which is trained for that tank. Just the same as when you buy a premium tank in the shop these days, even the rental tanks come with a 100% crew that will stay even when the rental period is over. My barracks are full of such crews.

 



Balc0ra #18 Posted 27 June 2019 - 03:23 PM

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View PostStinkyStonky, on 27 June 2019 - 12:29 PM, said:

Thanks guys, I'll double check when I get home and probably raise a support ticket.

 

Some things are for sure ...

1) the crew was 100% (you can't apply the book if they aren't).

2) the crew seemed to get the XP from training booklet (20k XP) not a Training Manual (150k XP)

3) the crew might have played a few battles (I now have 4 German Premium Meds !!) but not many

4) the battles played in the 55A are with a 3 skill crew from another tank.

5) My account is down 2M credits (I was over 12M).

 

As you say you are down 2M. You checked the depot to see if there are any crew books there for 200K? Just in case you picked the wrong one etc and have yet to use it.

WhoCares01 #19 Posted 27 June 2019 - 04:18 PM

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View PostGeno1isme, on 27 June 2019 - 03:20 PM, said:

 

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Because you automatically get a free 100% crew when obtaining the T-55A which is trained for that tank. Just the same as when you buy a premium tank in the shop these days, even the rental tanks come with a 100% crew that will stay even when the rental period is over. My barracks are full of such crews.

Wow, didn't know that either!

I "only" need HT.15 to unlock the T55a, but I considered it of little use to me, as (so far) I only played down the Panther/E50M line, from which the crew layout of the T55a w/o radioman and commander taking that role as well does not fit, and missing Situational Awareness at tier 9 on a MT I'd consider a no-go…

Then again, I would still have to train the crew to make it fit for the job, soooo, not sure...



Hedgehog_small_tanks #20 Posted 27 June 2019 - 05:03 PM

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View PostGeno1isme, on 27 June 2019 - 02:20 PM, said:

 

Yep. Was to be expected as we have the same restriction for converting Free- into Crew-XP.

 

 

Because you automatically get a free 100% crew when obtaining the T-55A which is trained for that tank. Just the same as when you buy a premium tank in the shop these days, even the rental tanks come with a 100% crew that will stay even when the rental period is over. My barracks are full of such crews.

 

 

The first thing you do when you get a crew with a premium tank is dismiss them. They are no use to you except in that tank.  Always use crews from your silver tanks in your premium vehicles.  They're good in their silver tank and the premium tank. The exception being those crews with free skills at start such as the "Berlin crews."

 

In my T55A I use my E50M crew or my Leopard 1 crew.  Each far better than a crew at 100% and with no other skills or perks.  Even though I can't get situational awareness working on the T55A with those crews it is still advantageous to use the better crews than the crew that comes with the T55A.

 

The last time I used a crew from a premium tank was probably when I only had one crew for that nation because it was the only tank of that class and/or from that nation.  So my Type 59 crew for example were used for years until the rest of the tech tree showed up.  By now they're trained on another tank.


Edited by Hedgehog_small_tanks, 27 June 2019 - 05:30 PM.





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