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Claeste #1 Posted 30 June 2019 - 01:34 PM

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Well. Just wanna talk about classic WoT conversations in our clan's Discord server nowadays.

 

1) Premium tank spamming

2) Getting ammorack several times in a row, impossible bounces etc. stupid Rng things.

3) WG can't stop mods/cheat.

4) WG just wanna earn money in a short time, doesn't think about long term.

5) How lazy WG is.

6) Making rubbish that old tanks.

7) WG don't listen players, aspecially in English community.

8) Bad match making.

9) WG wanna end this game

 

etc.

 

And curious about your thoughts.


Edited by Claeste, 30 June 2019 - 01:49 PM.


xx984 #2 Posted 30 June 2019 - 01:38 PM

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with me those things are not conversations because you say it and everyone agrees so it ends right away

Dorander #3 Posted 30 June 2019 - 01:40 PM

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It tends to be in people's nature to complain more vocally than they give approval.

 

The only question that matters is, do your perceived problems outweigh your enjoyment of the game? If the answer is yes, it's simply time to find a new way to spend your time, either temporarily or permanently.



Claeste #4 Posted 30 June 2019 - 01:58 PM

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View Postxx984, on 30 June 2019 - 01:38 PM, said:

with me those things are not conversations because you say it and everyone agrees so it ends right away

 

People wanna look this optimistic still out there or ''go play another game'' dudes... :)

NekoPuffer_PPP #5 Posted 30 June 2019 - 02:03 PM

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View PostClaeste, on 30 June 2019 - 02:34 PM, said:

Well. Just wanna talk about classic WoT conversations in our clan's Discord server nowadays.

 

1) Premium tank spamming

2) Getting ammorack several times in a row, impossible bounces etc. stupid Rng things.

3) WG can't stop mods/cheat.

4) WG just wanna earn money in a short time, doesn't think about long term.

5) How lazy WG is.

6) Making rubbish that old tanks.

7) WG don't listen players, aspecially in English community.

8) Bad match making.

9) WG wanna end this game

 

etc.

 

And curious about your thoughts.

 

My thoughts? I think your clan is salty and shouldn't play this game.

 

If you've got so many complaints about the game you're playing...why are you still playing it?!?

 



OmniWalou #6 Posted 30 June 2019 - 02:04 PM

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I talk about all kind of different things when platooning with someone. I stop playing with people like you and your clan mates OP, the ones who just can't stop whining about things. I mean, if you choose to be social while playing WoT, why spend it on just whining? Why not have a conversation with the other people, joke around and so on? I've met so many people who just want to waste the time with whining about RNG, teammates, some tanks etc. All that negativity is just not enjoyable.

Claeste #7 Posted 30 June 2019 - 02:08 PM

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 30 June 2019 - 02:03 PM, said:

 

My thoughts? I think your clan is salty and shouldn't play this game.

 

If you've got so many complaints about the game you're playing...why are you still playing it?!?

 

lol. If we are salty and shouldn't play this game, %80 of players shouldn't too.

After all time and money people spent it is hard to go away quitely.


Edited by Claeste, 30 June 2019 - 02:13 PM.


Joggaman #8 Posted 30 June 2019 - 02:10 PM

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Dingers shared channel:

 

1. How to make a decent cheese

2. Different dieting programs people are trying/have tried

3. Recap of cellaman's latest sexcapades

4. Fish recipes (with meat)

5. Jokes

6. Bulldog telling everybody to try a secret seal clubbing tank

7. People asking for/accepting platoons

8. Showing off good results

9. Copy/pasting a salty pm we got to share a laugh

10. Etc

 

I'm sure some other dinger will come to complete the list

 


Edited by Joggaman, 30 June 2019 - 02:21 PM.


NUKLEAR_SLUG #9 Posted 30 June 2019 - 02:13 PM

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You made a Discord channel to whine to each other about a game you continue to play regardless?

 

Seems odd to me but each to their own.



Claeste #10 Posted 30 June 2019 - 02:14 PM

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You guys make me feel like :) ;

SuedKAT #11 Posted 30 June 2019 - 02:31 PM

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View PostJoggaman, on 30 June 2019 - 02:10 PM, said:

Dingers shared channel:

 

I'm sure some other dinger will come to complete the list

 

11. Me ranting 



UrQuan #12 Posted 30 June 2019 - 02:32 PM

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My replies on your clan's discussion topics

 

1)Premium tank spamming

The game is old & had plenty of prem tank marathons & good discounts by now + plenty of invite codes that can give you a low tier prem tank (churchill III & Dicker Max) for new starters. Premium tanks are just the easiest way to make credits & train crews, hence they'll be used often.

 

2)Getting ammorack several times in a row, impossible bounces etc. stupid Rng things

RNG works for & against you. The ammoracking can be resolved a bit if you know where yours is & keep it out of the fireline (or hard to hit). Harder on some tanks then others. The more you learn about the game, the less 'impossible bounces' you get, just improbable ones. Especially when you use hEAT, learn to accept that a bounce can always occur due to how the shell & accuracy mechanics work (no overmatch feature for it!)

Sure is annoying seeing your awesome shot do nothing but 'Miss! or 'critical hit!'. Opposite but same when your 'oh screw this!' snapshot works above & beyond expectations, setting the poor lad on fire while moving.

 

3) WG can't stop mods/cheat.

WG doesn't ban cheaters immediatly + not all mods are banned. Some mods are allowed (see WoT mod portal thingie, can't recall name atm, as I don't use mods). On illegal mods, WG uses the banwave method. Accumulating offenders & then ban m all in one fell swoop. Advantage is that it makes it harder for cheat-mod makers to track down what the anti-cheat detector tracks. 

When does a banwave happen? Just prior before all those massed threads titled in variations of  'WG banned innocent me for illegal mods! I do no such thing!'

 

4)WG just wanna earn money in a short time, doesn't think about long term.

Does seem that way yes, most long term planning that seems to occur is implementing new tank lines & tanks. Rarely comes with a vision of 'would it fit?' or 'what impact might this new mechanic have?'' 

On the other hand, WG has been trying various stuff regarding prem ammo for a long time, still hasn't found a proper answer (likely tied in with the 'No nerf prem tank' policy that's running.

 

5)How lazy WG is

Wouldn't say lazy, more that their focus seems to be all over the place. Introducing new tank lines with new mechanics & running balance tests at the same time will schew things out of order. Especially with new map designs introduced in the mix.

The graphic update illustrated this. They showed off alot of new fancy maps & then realized the old maps had to be updated too, resulting that by the release of the graphic update we lost alot of maps to play on, in exchange for one/two meh to awful new maps (and the return of Province, why)

In short: WG doenst' seem lazy, but rather being bad at focusing on things, causing alot of half-finished work in the end, which needs alot of time to fix in the end...

 

6) Making rubbish that old tanks.

I'm lost on this, seems to missing a word or even a whole sentence. Perhaps a complain about powercreeping? Which is a sad inevitability for most online games that continue to add content (albeit there's ways to handle it good & less good)

 

7) WG don't listen players, aspecially in English community

We know (sadly), same for russian players btw, despite the prevailing stereotype. They too would enjoy a more balanced game with more viable tanks & some focus beyond russian tanks.

That said, at times they do listen, especially when stuff's broken with a direct impact (recent examples: the skorpion camo issue & the bad placement of the snipercam in tanks) leading to a rather fast fix in both cases after the community unveiled these issues & spread the knowledge.

 

8)Bad match making.

It got better recently, still meh, but not as bad as it was before. Old MM was fairer in the top-mid-bottomtier distribution (gave roughly 1/3rd of your games in each bracket) <- I liked this part. Current MM is more fair in class-balancing (which the old MM barely did) and that's something quite some folks enjoy about it.

So pro's a cons for both.

 

9)WG wanna end this game

I can answer that with a firm 'NO'. WoT is their cash-cow. No other game they got fills their moneycoffins that fast. In fact, their other games combined don't even touch WoT. So unless they want to commit financial suicide, they will try to keep the game afloat for as long as they can. And even when they finally developed a new financial wonder game racking in the big money, I doubt they'll drop WoT easy.

That said, WG has no clue how WoT became such a success, this is shown in their other games that don't even come close to WoT's success, hence the chance to make bad calls that anger the playerbase is rather high (as shown in the past)

 

 

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View PostJoggaman, on 30 June 2019 - 02:10 PM, said:

Dingers shared channel:

 

1. How to make a decent cheese

2. Different dieting programs people are trying/have tried

3. Recap of cellaman's latest sexcapades

4. Fish recipes (with meat)

5. Jokes

6. Bulldog telling everybody to try a secret seal clubbing tank

7. People asking for/accepting platoons

8. Showing off good results

9. Copy/pasting a salty pm we got to share a laugh

10. Etc

 

I'm sure some other dinger will come to complete the list

 

 

View PostSuedKAT, on 30 June 2019 - 02:31 PM, said:

11. Me ranting 

 

12: UrQuan boasting about yet another Steel Wall.

 


Edited by UrQuan, 30 June 2019 - 02:44 PM.


mpf1959 #13 Posted 30 June 2019 - 02:34 PM

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View PostJoggaman, on 30 June 2019 - 02:10 PM, said:

Dingers shared channel:

 

1. How to make a decent cheese

2. Different dieting programs people are trying/have tried

3. Recap of cellaman's latest sexcapades

4. Fish recipes (with meat)

5. Jokes

6. Bulldog telling everybody to try a secret seal clubbing tank

7. People asking for/accepting platoons

8. Showing off good results

9. Copy/pasting a salty pm we got to share a laugh

10. Etc

 

I'm sure some other dinger will come to complete the list

 

 

Not a complete list Jogga, but some of my own observations in the, err, few times I have been in the clan(s) :teethhappy:

 

Discussing and sharing details of decent books, I have had quite a few good recommendations from fellow dingers.

People talking about naughty body parts, naturally I steer clear (being British) but some deride much mirth from w.c. humour!

The various pro's and con's of real tanks.

Electric guitars, and music in general.

And many more topics besides.



Dava_117 #14 Posted 30 June 2019 - 02:42 PM

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View PostJoggaman, on 30 June 2019 - 02:10 PM, said:

Dingers shared channel:

 

1. How to make a decent cheese

2. Different dieting programs people are trying/have tried

3. Recap of cellaman's latest sexcapades

4. Fish recipes (with meat)

5. Jokes

6. Bulldog telling everybody to try a secret seal clubbing tank

7. People asking for/accepting platoons

8. Showing off good results

9. Copy/pasting a salty pm we got to share a laugh

10. Etc

11. Achievements we got in other games (as KSP in example)

12. Technical help

 

I'm sure some other dinger will come to complete the list

 

 

Those are 2 points I liked of our Discord channel recently! :)



Robbie_T #15 Posted 30 June 2019 - 03:22 PM

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The things in my discord group that are discussed

Are new wot news topics....

but what takes the crown are the screenshots with useless teams where 6 people did 0 dmg.

 



Bordhaw #16 Posted 30 June 2019 - 06:06 PM

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View PostClaeste, on 30 June 2019 - 12:34 PM, said:

Well. Just wanna talk about classic WoT conversations in our clan's Discord server nowadays.

 

1) Premium tank spamming

2) Getting ammorack several times in a row, impossible bounces etc. stupid Rng things.

3) WG can't stop mods/cheat.

4) WG just wanna earn money in a short time, doesn't think about long term.

5) How lazy WG is.

6) Making rubbish that old tanks.

7) WG don't listen players, aspecially in English community.

8) Bad match making.

9) WG wanna end this game

 

etc.

 

And curious about your thoughts.

 

When was this from 5 years ago or 5 days ago? 

Randomar #17 Posted 30 June 2019 - 06:26 PM

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11. Wargaming let me play against cheaters as long the rubel rolls in.
12. Wheeled vehicles
13. Russian bias: When a tier7 medium object comes, you better retreat with your Tier 8 premium heavy.

WindSplitter1 #18 Posted 30 June 2019 - 07:15 PM

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What?

 

No artillery?

 

Should be #1 on that list.



Vulture_IX #19 Posted 30 June 2019 - 07:23 PM

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View PostClaeste, on 30 June 2019 - 12:34 PM, said:

Well. Just wanna talk about classic WoT conversations in our clan's Discord server nowadays.

 

1) Premium tank spamming

2) Getting ammorack several times in a row, impossible bounces etc. stupid Rng things.

3) WG can't stop mods/cheat.

4) WG just wanna earn money in a short time, doesn't think about long term.

5) How lazy WG is.

6) Making rubbish that old tanks.

7) WG don't listen players, aspecially in English community.

8) Bad match making.

9) WG wanna end this game

 

etc.

 

And curious about your thoughts.

 

Enjoying playing Wot casually and riding this dumpster-fire down the drain.

 

 

Jokes aside, ease down on giving WG your hard earned cash and play other stuff. Have a clan poll about new games you can enjoy, otherwise I'm afraid you will have the same discussions on your discord as you have now.


Edited by Vulture_IX, 30 June 2019 - 07:29 PM.


TheComfyChair #20 Posted 30 June 2019 - 08:58 PM

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View PostJoggaman, on 30 June 2019 - 02:10 PM, said:

Dingers shared channel:

 

1. How to make a decent cheese

2. Different dieting programs people are trying/have tried

3. Recap of cellaman's latest sexcapades

4. Fish recipes (with meat)

5. Jokes

6. Bulldog telling everybody to try a secret seal clubbing tank

7. People asking for/accepting platoons

8. Showing off good results

9. Copy/pasting a salty pm we got to share a laugh

10. Etc

 

I'm sure some other dinger will come to complete the list

 

 

12. Invites to Rustys basement :hiding:




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