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resheph73 #1 Posted 03 July 2019 - 11:12 AM

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as per title... what to choose after this pathetic tank? French heavy autoloaders seem rather obsolete compared to swedish while the single shot heavy line seems just meh... 

EzoRedFox #2 Posted 03 July 2019 - 11:20 AM

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I'd go autoloader line to save yourself the pain of playing the 65t

XxKuzkina_MatxX #3 Posted 03 July 2019 - 11:20 AM

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The tier 9 AMX m4 51 is very good and the tier 10 is playable.

EzoRedFox #4 Posted 03 July 2019 - 11:25 AM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 03 July 2019 - 11:20 AM, said:

The tier 9 AMX m4 51 is very good and the tier 10 is playable.

The tier 9 isn't fun to play with terrible bloom and an awful armour profile to work with, the tier X is quite fun but really crap, like one of the worst tier X heavies.



barison1 #5 Posted 03 July 2019 - 11:27 AM

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amx m4 51 and amx50b are good tanks but not much forgiving when making mistakes

 

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65t, amx50100, amx50 120 which come before them are pretty mhe at most



speedphlux #6 Posted 03 July 2019 - 11:35 AM

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At this point in the game - I wouldn't bother with a French Heavy whatsoever. Specially when you consider the pain that the 65t is, and how much outclassed the 50 100 feels nowdays.

XxKuzkina_MatxX #7 Posted 03 July 2019 - 11:53 AM

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View PostEzoRedFox, on 03 July 2019 - 02:25 PM, said:

The tier 9 isn't fun to play with terrible bloom and an awful armour profile to work with, the tier X is quite fun but really crap, like one of the worst tier X heavies.

 

What works for someone doesn't necessarily work for others. :)

 

Take a look at the performance of the tier 9 compared to the tier 10...

 

Tier 9

 

Tier 10

 

Also consider there are almost double the number of mle. 51s in the server.



EzoRedFox #8 Posted 03 July 2019 - 12:27 PM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 03 July 2019 - 11:53 AM, said:

 

Yea also consider that m4 51 doesn't get a stock grind and is at a reasonably well balanced tier so the wr curves are gonna be inflated slightly. M4 54 funnily enough has a worse stock grind than m4 51, since 120mm m4 54 is the worst tier X heavy as it's essentially identical to the tier 9. Tier-for-tier, the 51 is a lot better, but it can be really frustrating to make it work. Hull armour is 50/50 against t9 standard ammo, so bouncing stuff is much more luck based, and well you can't angle it. M4 54 has the advantage of an upper plate thats resistant for basically everything until you run into E3/4 APCR, and the gun is a bit more consistent, hence why I said it was more fun. 



leggasiini #9 Posted 03 July 2019 - 01:13 PM

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50 B line isn't exactly in the best state in the current meta. AMX 50 100 has seen better days, now it's generally outdated compared to other vehicles like Lorraine and Somua, as it trades pretty much everything to get a rather gimmicky 6 x 300 shell autoloader. AMX 50 120 is also considered to be pretty underwhelming. AMX 50 B can still do well but it's exceptionally hard to play especially considering it gets matched against armored heavies all the time, and the tank really can't use it's armor to bully tier 8s like pretty much any other tier 10 heavy can. It also gets a lot better when you fire premium, but eh. Personally I don't think it's that worthwhile.

 

As for the other line, the AMX 65t is probably the worst tier 8 HT in the game, it's really bad. AMX M4 51 is actually pretty good, though, but it's not particularly unique and whether it is worth grinding the dreadful AMX 65t is debatable. Not just that, the tier 10 after it, the AMX M4 54, isn't very good. It does have some fun appeal with the 130 mm gun (the 120 mm gun is absolutely useless, don't use it), as it has 560 alpha combined with reasonably good accuracy, gun handling and decent mobility, but overall it isn't a very good tank.

 

I honestly don't even know which line is better, since neither of them are very good.



resheph73 #10 Posted 03 July 2019 - 01:29 PM

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View Postleggasiini, on 03 July 2019 - 12:13 PM, said:

I honestly don't even know which line is better, since neither of them are very good.

 

Yeah had the same impression, the entire french heavy branch needs serious work... M4 45 its just bad, I've played it only because I got a lot of blueprints for the amx 50 100. 

TeessideTintin #11 Posted 03 July 2019 - 05:15 PM

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View Postresheph73, on 03 July 2019 - 10:12 AM, said:

as per title... what to choose after this pathetic tank? 

 

I don't know where to begin except... I liked the AMX M4 45... Perhaps I am just odd.



ExclamationMark #12 Posted 03 July 2019 - 05:25 PM

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50 100 is not terrible, it's just that the Lorr 40t and Somua are both far better than it. There are times where the 50 100 can shine it's just... Those times are few and generally far in between.

I liked the 50 120, especially with the gun depression buff, it's not bad.

Also like the 50b. 

 

Best thing for you to do is play the 50 120 and 50b on the CT, and the 50 100 too if you can manage to get any games in it. Better to do that and spend your time on something else until then.



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View PostTeessideTintin, on 03 July 2019 - 04:15 PM, said:

I don't know where to begin except... I liked the AMX M4 45... Perhaps I am just odd.

 

I didn't like it when I did the grind for the 50 100, then I rather enjoyed it when I went back to it to grind the single shot line. Not sure what changed in the intervening period, maybe I'm odd too. :) 

Blubba #14 Posted 03 July 2019 - 06:41 PM

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The Somua and Lorraine are a tad more expensive than the 50/100 as I recall. I liked the 50/100 though I did play it some time ago. The tier 50/120 wasn't fun for me and I haven't played the tier 10. The 65t was a bit like sticking needles under my nails to be fair but again, the tier 9 offers a vast improvement over it. As per the auto loading branch of the tree, the tier 10 is yet to see the light of day. 

Either way, I'd play for them, if only for the sake of playing/owning them.



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Autoloaders, the AMX65t is utter garbage and the T9/T10 are ok but not really special.

 

At least with the autoloaders you have the burst damage and since armour is pretty much obsolete in World of Goldammo you might as well have any.

 

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BlackBloodBandit #16 Posted 03 July 2019 - 08:42 PM

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I'm going for AMX65T at the moment. Already unlocked it and will be playing it in Frontline to get the 2nd gun. 50 100 uses the same gun so that one is a lot easier to play then. I will use AMX M4 51 for a blocking mission, because I don't like the Swedish heavies. It's the only way to get the blocking mission done.

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 03 July 2019 - 11:20 AM, said:

The tier 9 AMX m4 51 is very good and the tier 10 is playable.

The tier 9 isn't fun to play with terrible bloom and an awful armour profile to work with, the tier X is quite fun but really crap, like one of the worst tier X heavies.

I agree to XxKuzkina_MatxX about the tier 9. The bloom isn't bad when you play the 120mm gun. The gun handling with that gun is quite okay actually.


Edited by BlackBloodBandit, 03 July 2019 - 08:43 PM.


EzoRedFox #17 Posted 03 July 2019 - 10:09 PM

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View PostBlackBloodBandit, on 03 July 2019 - 08:42 PM, said:

I agree to XxKuzkina_MatxX about the tier 9. The bloom isn't bad when you play the 120mm gun. The gun handling with that gun is quite okay actually.

Yea the hard stats on the 120mm are quite good, but the bloom values on moving are something like the 3rd worse in class for the tier, making the gun more derpy than it should be.



Dramakid19 #18 Posted 04 July 2019 - 09:12 AM

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Amx m4 45 is not pathetic tank at all. 3marked it in 70-80 games. If you have any brain this tank is pure gem. But both lines are pain. Both tier 8 are big pile of kaku. Only thing worth is tier 9 single shoot heavy. 

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Start another line.

arthurwellsley #20 Posted 04 July 2019 - 10:06 AM

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I have both the 50B and the AMX M4 mle.54 so I have played both lines.

 

AMX 50 100 used to be decent but has been power crept by the Somua. In the old days it used to get played in team battles, and I still have mine with a four perk crew. I rarely play it in 2019. AMX 50 120 I sort of got along with but sold. AMX 50B is excellent in a platoon where you know you have two friends to rely on, but played alone in pubs it struggles.

 

AMX 65t as others have said this thing is just down right nasty to be forced to play, it is a very poor tier VIII. The AMX M4 mle.51 I sort of liked and did alright in. The AMX M4 mle.54 is a pretty weak tier X by heavy tank standards.






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