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imkiller69 #1 Posted 03 July 2019 - 04:46 PM

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obj 263 does not respond to my shooting and then disappears in front of me. Can any one explain this (the disappearance)?

 

http://wotreplays.eu/site/4944623#karelia-imkiller69-m41d  time: from about 10.00


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VonniVidiVici #2 Posted 03 July 2019 - 06:11 PM

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You proxy spotted him, moved back, and a few seconds later he became unspotted as he was completely obscured by bushes and you were 70+ meters away. What exactly is the problem?

onderschepper #3 Posted 03 July 2019 - 06:14 PM

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If I were to guess, he appeared to be preoccupied with someone at his 12 o'clock, that combined with how little damage you were dealing likely rendered you a secondary concern.

 

Tracking him seemed to grab his attention causing him to take evasive action and recede into cover, just prior to him delivering a fatal shot to your tank.



imkiller69 #4 Posted 03 July 2019 - 06:35 PM

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View PostVonniVidiVici, on 03 July 2019 - 06:11 PM, said:

You proxy spotted him, moved back, and a few seconds later he became unspotted as he was completely obscured by bushes and you were 70+ meters away. What exactly is the problem?

 

nonsence. between the moment I spot the object and the moment it disappears, I do not move. the object only moves fort and back  but stays at the same distance / line but still disappears.

VonniVidiVici #5 Posted 03 July 2019 - 06:52 PM

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View Postimkiller69, on 03 July 2019 - 06:35 PM, said:

 

nonsence. between the moment I spot the object and the moment it disappears, I do not move. the object only moves fort and back  but stays at the same distance / line but still disappears.

 

You spotted him, reversed a bit, then moved back and forth but never came within proxy distance again. The only way you can call that not moving is if you're in the Drumpf cabinet and have completely rejected reality in favour of your own.

Besides that, apparently 21.7k battles were not only insufficient to learn how camo and spotting work, you also never noticed the range indicator on your crosshair.



imkiller69 #6 Posted 03 July 2019 - 08:00 PM

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NO SENSE Vonnivvidivici, you are clearly talking rubish . I do not move an inch at 10.08  the  minute the object disappears. 

 

 

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onderschepper #7 Posted 03 July 2019 - 08:20 PM

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When behind double bushes the camo factor is increased.

 

If the 263 has BIA, Food, etc. that would give a moving camo value of 79% (+/-).

 

Also, it's nonsense not no sense. :honoring:



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View Postimkiller69, on 03 July 2019 - 08:00 PM, said:

NO SENSE Vonnivvidivici, you are clearly talking rubish . I do not move an inch at 10.08  the  minute the object disappears. 

 

 

 

It's not the moment the object disappears which matters.  Tanks stay spotted for a short time, which can be up to 10 seconds.  So you lost sight when you moved back, then the obj goes invisible after the delay.

 

Your own screenshots show you moved between spotting him and him going invisible.



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View Postonderschepper, on 03 July 2019 - 08:20 PM, said:

When behind double bushes the camo factor is increased.

 

If the 263 has BIA, Food, etc. that would give a moving camo value of 79% (+/-).

 

Also, it's nonsense not no sense. :honoring:

 

it makes no sense.

Sorry to say Homer, but you are mistaken. I DO NOT Move at the moment the object disappears. 

Watching the replay CARFULLY, I do still spot the object. at 10.08. I DO NOT  move and within  the same minute it disappears.

Besides that  where do you see double bushes? there is not so much bushes where the object is.   Normaly you still do see your enemy in viewrange at your screen while you are knocked out already.

So how do you explain the object returning at screen???


Edited by imkiller69, 03 July 2019 - 08:54 PM.


onderschepper #10 Posted 03 July 2019 - 08:45 PM

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View Postimkiller69, on 03 July 2019 - 08:00 PM, said:

NO SENSE Vonnivvidivici, you are clearly talking rubish .

View Postimkiller69, on 03 July 2019 - 08:30 PM, said:

it makes no sense.

Your initial use of the term was a fragment of what should have been a complete sentence, hence my conclusion of nonsense.

 

No need to provide links, based upon your spelling of rubbish it is evident which of us achieved an A in GCSE English Language. :P

On topic, your first screenshot shows at least two trees between the 263 and your tank.



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View Postimkiller69, on 03 July 2019 - 08:30 PM, said:

 

it makes no sense.

Sorry to say Homer, but you are mistaken. I DO NOT Move at the moment the object disappears. 

Watching the replay CARFULLY, I do still spot the object. at 10.08. I DO NOT  move and within  the same minute it disappears.

Besides that  where do you see double bushes? there is not so much bushes where the object is.   Normaly you still do see your enemy in viewrange at your screen while you are knocked out already.

So how do you explain the object returning at screen???

 

Normally you still do see your enemy in viewrange at your screen while you are knocked out already.

So how do you explain the object returning at screen???



VonniVidiVici #12 Posted 04 July 2019 - 10:00 AM

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View Postimkiller69, on 03 July 2019 - 08:00 PM, said:

NO SENSE Vonnivvidivici, you are clearly talking rubish . I do not move an inch at 10.08  the  minute the object disappears. 

 

 

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You're spectacularly missing the point, which is that you moved into proxy distance, immediately moved out of it, and never returned.

 

View Postimkiller69, on 03 July 2019 - 09:15 PM, said:

Normally you still do see your enemy in viewrange at your screen while you are knocked out already.

So how do you explain the object returning at screen???

 

He used double bushes to kill you without getting spotted, moved away after firing, and got spotted by the M41 when he was no longer obscured by bushes.

 

The only thing difficult to understand about the whole scenario is the fact you have difficulty understanding what happened.



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View PostVonniVidiVici, on 04 July 2019 - 10:00 AM, said:

 

You're spectacularly missing the point, which is that you moved into proxy distance, immediately moved out of it, and never returned.

 

 

He used double bushes to kill you without getting spotted, moved away after firing, and got spotted by the M41 when he was no longer obscured by bushes.

 

The only thing difficult to understand about the whole scenario is the fact you have difficulty understanding what happened.

 

Oke, You can call me a noob or what ever. but your answer is not convincing. I am conviced it has notting to do with proxy spotting. just for disapperaring  you can even see the upper side of the tracks (just below the red line in the screenshot) so the object is in viewrange.

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View Postimkiller69, on 04 July 2019 - 07:21 PM, said:

 

Oke, You can call me a noob or what ever. but your answer is not convincing. I am conviced it has notting to do with proxy spotting. just for disapperaring  you can even see the upper side of the tracks (just below the red line in the screenshot) so the object is in viewrange.

 

I don't recall using the word noob in this thread until just now. But hey, if you come looking for an explanation to a very simple non-issue because you never bothered learning how the game works then proceed to dismiss the explanation given because it doesn't fit with your warped view of how things should work that's your problem, not mine. All your last post demonstrated is that you don't even know how hitboxes for bushes work, let alone spotting mechanics in general. You clearly don't want help if it means confronting just how limited your understanding of the game mechanics is, so have fun being bamboozled by the most basic scenarios.

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View Postimkiller69, on 03 July 2019 - 08:30 PM, said:

 

Sorry to say Homer, but you are mistaken. I DO NOT Move at the moment the object disappears. 

 

Try reading my post again.  That or try posting again in a language section you do understand.

 

There is a delay between losing the sight of a tank and it disappearing from view.  This is not real life it is a game.

 

You move, you lose sight, tank stays visible for up to 10 seconds because it's a game, tank goes invisible because it's a game.



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View PostHomer_J, on 04 July 2019 - 09:19 PM, said:

There is a delay between losing the sight of a tank and it disappearing from view.

 

 

This. That's all, nothing more. Simple.



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Even tho its old its still same game .. 

 

https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Battle_Mechanics#Spotting_Mechanics

https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Battle_Mechanics#Visibility

 

amongst the flood of turotials, guides, walktroughs and whatnot .. found these in under a min ;

 

 


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imkiller69 #18 Posted 05 July 2019 - 05:47 PM

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Thanks Homer_J !




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