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Actinid #1 Posted 10 July 2019 - 09:34 AM

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Hey, tankers!

Remember the four new British lights we were talking about the other day?

Today, you can meet two of them “in person” and in full detail.

The Tier VII GSR 3301 Setter

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The peculiarities of the new high-tier British lights start right off the bat at Tier VII, so this tank is small in stature and has great camouflage values. When fully upgraded, this Brit carries a 75-mm gun which can deal 135 damage with a single shot. Not the best, but the gun’s other parameters are quite impressive. For instance, the armor penetration is 180 mm with a standard AP shell and 220 mm with an APCR round. Its dispersion at 100 m and aiming time boast some good values too: 0.38 m and 1.8 s, respectively. And don’t forget a rate of fire of 10 shots a minute.

As for mobility, it’s decent enough for a light tank. The maximum speed (58 km/h) may not outrank its peers, but the high power-to-weight ratio of 27.9 hp/t allows it to reach it that much quicker. The Setter will be able to get to a vantage point quickly and, if necessary, actively spot. When fully upgraded, the Brit boasts a view range of 370 m.

The GSR 3301 Setter is the first tank in this new sub-branch and it fully reflects the overall concept. The key characteristics of excellent camouflage and good mobility allow for positional reconnaissance, while remaining undetected for a good deal of time. And don’t forget the cannon with which the Setter can provide fire support. Putting both these gameplay elements together is the key to taming this Brit and taping its full potential. 

The Tier VIII LHMTV

 

 

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Moving up the tech tree, the new Brits grow in speed, power and danger, while keeping their size small and their camouflage effective. The LHMTV is no exception, boasting decent mobility (with a top speed of 63 km/h and a power-to-weight ratio of 33 hp/t) and an imposing 85-mm gun.

Moving onto firing characteristics: its rate of fire is 6 rounds per minute and its alpha — 230 points. You could say nothing to boast about, but it’s okay as the LHMTV has other things to boast about! Check it out: the armor penetration with a standard AP shell is 226 mm (which is outstanding for its tier) and a special APCR will pierce armor 258 mm thick.

Also consider this: the dispersion is 0.37 m at 100 m, while the aiming time is 2.2 s. Given its view range of 380 m, all these furnish a fine opportunity to deliver consistent damage. So, you’d better not miss the chance.

Just like other light Brits, the LHMTV can juggle two different playstyles. On the one hand, the viable mobility and small size allows it to excel at positional reconnaissance, while its superb gun makes it quite handy in a fire support role when not seen by the enemy. To succeed, however, you will need to show off your stealth skills and keep a close eye on the battlefield, thus tapping the full potential of the new Brits.

 


Edited by Delhroh, 10 July 2019 - 01:06 PM.


EzoRedFox #2 Posted 10 July 2019 - 01:24 PM

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tier 8: 1,380 dpm

tier 7: 1,350 dpm

At minimum, they both need +300 DPM. They're better balanced than the tier 9 and 10 lights, but still the penetration advantage is being massively overcompensated.



undutchable80 #3 Posted 10 July 2019 - 02:16 PM

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When are we going to be informed how much xp is required to get the T7 via the Cromwell? I am aiming at 75k, but would be nice to get an official number. 

Dr_Oolen #4 Posted 10 July 2019 - 05:00 PM

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Well, all these british lights have one thing in common so far... for arguably useless higher penetration on regular rounds (all you have to do is press 22 on other lights and you get the same pen as the brits have on their gold aswell so instantly all the supposed pen advantage is gone) they pay with super awful dispersions and dpm.

 

Having no better gold ammo than other lights while at the same time having super crapdpm and gun handling is simply too much at the same time. Lets say their size and camo advantage is maybe worth one of the downsides, certainly not both.

 

So as far as im concerned they either need to have significantly better gold too while having comparable dpm or gun handling. Or they stay with no better gold than other lights in which case both pm and gun handling ought to be buffed to be closer to that of other lights. That said pretty much all other tech tree lights except few select ones are also crapanyway, so...



baratoz1701 #5 Posted 10 July 2019 - 07:17 PM

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These tanks would be ok if wheeled light's didnt exist.

 

They'd still be not that great........... but atm they are gna be awful



xx984 #6 Posted 11 July 2019 - 04:29 PM

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nc30_guy #7 Posted 11 July 2019 - 07:42 PM

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And just look at the ammo cap its ridiculous e25 has how many shells.

undutchable80 #8 Posted 11 July 2019 - 09:35 PM

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View Postnc30_guy, on 11 July 2019 - 07:42 PM, said:

And just look at the ammo cap its ridiculous e25 has how many shells.

 

T92 which is about same size carries 60!

Paul_Kouadio #9 Posted 11 July 2019 - 11:18 PM

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This entire mini-line is just abysmal as is. There's absolutely nothing that truly distinguishes these lights from other LTs in the areas they're supposed to excel (penetration, mobility, camo), and they're just plain worse than the competition in other areas. It's actually unbelievable. QB was very disappointed with the Manticore on-stream today, and even Mr. Ed Francis (the MVP when it comes to digging up info in British archives) expressed his disappointed to QB. I believe Mr. Francis spent much time researching this line (not 100% sure). 

 

I see that WG didn't want to add high-tier autocannon into the game (although I can't understand why), but their alternative is plain bad. And it's not like there weren't any light tank projects with 120mm or higher caliber (even 160mm) guns...



4nt #10 Posted 11 July 2019 - 11:19 PM

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I thought Murazor left the dev dep already? Because only someone who hates lights would ever make these tanks. They are beyond useless. One good thing tho, no need to grind any of them.

Simeon85 #11 Posted 12 July 2019 - 09:30 AM

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Worst line of tanks you have ever tried to release, they are just utterly utterly terrible.

 

You have rushed these, they should be nowhere near being released in this state. 



5everin #12 Posted 13 July 2019 - 07:50 PM

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Just watched two leading youtube wot cc's openly laughing at your balance department. GG Wg.

Innapropriate_Username #13 Posted 14 July 2019 - 05:39 AM

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Whole UK Light tank line looks perfectly balanced! Balanced the same as German Tanks are!

 

*edited*

When it comes to BRITISH Tanks     - OMG GARBAGE, they will make German tanks look less useless! They NEED the same buff as Tier8 Medium 150mm_to_250mm Turret ! Bad balance if you don't fix this!!!

 


Edited by G_Bg_82, 15 July 2019 - 10:19 AM.
edited content due to off topic


samuelx43a #14 Posted 14 July 2019 - 07:05 PM

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View PostInnapropriate_Username, on 14 July 2019 - 05:39 AM, said:

Whole UK Light tank line looks perfectly balanced! Balanced the same as German Tanks are!

 

*edited*

When it comes to BRITISH Tanks     - OMG GARBAGE, they will make German tanks look less useless! They NEED the same buff as Tier8 Medium 150mm_to_250mm Turret ! Bad balance if you don't fix this!!!

 

 

your post is like 10% on topic. Get your whines elsewhere please.

 

I think the issue here is the way lights are getting treated at the moment. Honestly just like circon said, ammunition capacity should not be the way to balance a tank, especially when you advertise their gun as one of their features!

give them at least some DPM, like 10 more view range per tank, shell capacity and they would not suck too bad.

That saying, lights in general need a revisit


Edited by G_Bg_82, 15 July 2019 - 10:18 AM.


4nt #15 Posted 14 July 2019 - 08:15 PM

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I'd say anyone would be more than happy if these... Things would be even slightly worse than german lights (which apart from tX are more than okay lights).

Other than that. Your ranting is becoming more and more incoherent, forget your meds? Tossing that bull around in any random thread is more boring than your content. Not to mention sad, since it is bs mostly and relied on not knowing how the german tanks actually play.

Innapropriate_Username #16 Posted 15 July 2019 - 03:21 AM

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View Postsamuelx43a, on 14 July 2019 - 07:05 PM, said:

your post is like 10% on topic. Get your whines elsewhere please.

 

I think the issue here is the way lights are getting treated at the moment. Honestly just like circon said, ammunition capacity should not be the way to balance a tank, especially when you advertise their gun as one of their features!

give them at least some DPM, like 10 more view range per tank, shell capacity and they would not suck too bad.

That saying, lights in general need a revisit

 

sure sure... but that 10% is still more relevant and on topic than most posts on forums so 'eh...

Yeah they are terrible, but having all other UK lines total OP over German lines with 300mm fantasy armor plates covering weakspots and magic 250mm turrets on tier8 medium tanks (just to name a few)...

I take some pleasure in that at least for this Beta Test time, one other tank line can be more sucky than German one,,,

Do not worry, with all this whining they will buff them same as they did every other UK line, WG can not have any other line being worse than German one... specially UK one.   (I would bet my right arm on that)

 

View Post4nt, on 14 July 2019 - 08:15 PM, said:

                                                                 ...it is bs mostly and relied on not knowing how the german tanks actually play....

Just tnx for proving my point!  :great:

 

 



4nt #17 Posted 15 July 2019 - 09:37 AM

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You have no point so hard to prove it.




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