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Incoming STBeast-1 Buffs

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Nishi_Kinuyo #1 Posted 11 July 2019 - 07:41 PM

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So fresh from Public Test 1.6:

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  • STB-1
    • Changed the hull traverse speed from 55 to 52 deg/s
    • Changed the turret traverse speed from 46 to 50 deg/s
    • Changed the gun elevation angle from +9 to +15 deg (+21 deg when the hydropneumatic suspension is active)
    • Changed the gun depression angle from -6 to -8 deg (-14 deg when the hydropneumatic suspension is active)
    • The minimum speed for activating / deactivating the active suspension is increased from 15/24 to 30/30 km / h. (unlisted on WoT-EU)

 Sacrifices a small bit of hull traverse for better turret traverse and better all-round gun depression both in and out of siege mode.

Not only that, but, afaik, it gets the best frontal gun depression on a tier 10 tank, allowing it to really be a flower blooming on a ridge (rinshan kaihou).

And finally, the suspension should be a lot more workable after this update.


Edited by Nishi_Kinuyo, 11 July 2019 - 10:31 PM.


VonniVidiVici #2 Posted 11 July 2019 - 07:45 PM

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I'd rather have its gun depression to the sides back to be honest. And 390 alpha like a high tier 105mm gun should have because this sudden obsession of WG to change things that have been untouched and completely fine for years is getting annoying.

Nishi_Kinuyo #3 Posted 11 July 2019 - 07:47 PM

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View PostVonniVidiVici, on 11 July 2019 - 07:45 PM, said:

I'd rather have its gun depression to the sides back to be honest. And 390 alpha like a high tier 105mm gun should have because this sudden obsession of WG to change things that have been untouched and completely fine for years is getting annoying.

STB-1 was not "fine for years", it was pretty rubbish.



VonniVidiVici #4 Posted 11 July 2019 - 07:48 PM

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View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 11 July 2019 - 07:47 PM, said:

STB-1 was not "fine for years", it was pretty rubbish.

 

I was referring to gun damage values being linked to calibers. All STB needed was a gun handling buff and maybe some more turret armour, not this nonsense.

MrEdweird #5 Posted 11 July 2019 - 07:48 PM

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Yes, well.

 



HundeWurst #6 Posted 11 July 2019 - 08:24 PM

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Does that solve anything? the suspention is so clunky that the only thing this should be good at - ridgelinepoking - is near impossible.

 



If_I_Die_You_Die_Too #7 Posted 11 July 2019 - 08:37 PM

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They probably wanted another tonk with HPS and the STB1 came out the hat

NekoPuffer_PPP #8 Posted 11 July 2019 - 08:48 PM

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It has to be top of the tree next month...it's just has to be. Look at all those changes. WG, you know we wanna try it out, right? I'm still on the Type 61! Make our grinds easier and let us roll out in this refurbished "STBeast-1"! :playing:

xx984 #9 Posted 11 July 2019 - 08:57 PM

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this tank is great right now anyway, But eh, its my new favourite so ill welcome buffs! :great:

Schepel #10 Posted 11 July 2019 - 09:15 PM

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View PostVonniVidiVici, on 11 July 2019 - 07:45 PM, said:

I'd rather have its gun depression to the sides back to be honest. And 390 alpha like a high tier 105mm gun should have because this sudden obsession of WG to change things that have been untouched and completely fine for years is getting annoying.

 

This.

 

I liked it just fine the way it was. The previous round of buffs felt like a nerf. As long as they don't give it its depression on the sides back, it will continue to gather dust.



Warzey #11 Posted 11 July 2019 - 09:17 PM

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View Postxx984, on 11 July 2019 - 07:57 PM, said:

this tank is great right now anyway, But eh, its my new favourite so ill welcome buffs! :great:

 

I would love it as well if I didn't lose a third of my HP every time arty lands a shell in my square.

Yaccay #12 Posted 11 July 2019 - 09:25 PM

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View PostMrEdweird, on 11 July 2019 - 07:48 PM, said:

Yes, well.

 

 

Just watch carefully this picture.

Even if the gun depression is -14, still, the lower plate is uncovered. And that lower plate will be easily penetrated by enemy.



Nishi_Kinuyo #13 Posted 11 July 2019 - 09:47 PM

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View PostYaccay, on 11 July 2019 - 09:25 PM, said:

 

Just watch carefully this picture.

Even if the gun depression is -14, still, the lower plate is uncovered. And that lower plate will be easily penetrated by enemy.

Or he's poking the wrong place. :girl:



Nishi_Kinuyo #14 Posted 11 July 2019 - 10:30 PM

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Updated original post with an additional change I found in the Russian patch notes:

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Минимальная скорость для активации/отключения активной подвески увеличена с 15/24 до 30/30 км/ч.

 The minimum speed for activating / deactivating the active suspension is increased from 15/24 to 30/30 km / h.



ValkyrionX #15 Posted 11 July 2019 - 11:29 PM

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View PostWarzey, on 11 July 2019 - 09:17 PM, said:

 

I would love it as well if I didn't lose a third of my HP every time arty lands a shell in my square.

 

yeah , same for the retar**ed "heavy tank" fv215B 

Warzey #16 Posted 11 July 2019 - 11:42 PM

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View PostValkyrionX, on 11 July 2019 - 10:29 PM, said:

 

yeah , same for the retar**ed "heavy tank" fv215B 

 

I would have to disagree with that, in case of the FV215B you'll lose a quarter of your HP and burn on top of that.

xx984 #17 Posted 11 July 2019 - 11:44 PM

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View PostWarzey, on 11 July 2019 - 10:42 PM, said:

 

I would have to disagree with that, in case of the FV215B you'll lose a quarter of your HP and burn on top of that.

 

but its fine atleast you can sidescrape with that tank after.

 

 

Oh wait :hiding:



ValkyrionX #18 Posted 11 July 2019 - 11:46 PM

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View PostWarzey, on 11 July 2019 - 11:42 PM, said:

 

I would have to disagree with that, in case of the FV215B you'll lose a quarter of your HP and burn on top of that.

 

exactly , and sometimes in more rare cases it also happens to be penetrated, this tank needs some love too, I got tired of seeing only SConq and Chieftain around 

Cobra6 #19 Posted 12 July 2019 - 07:47 AM

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Gun depression to the sides is more welcome I'd say, but nice to see this tank is still receiving some well deserved buffs. Long overdue.

 

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thetopcat #20 Posted 12 July 2019 - 08:11 AM

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View PostVonniVidiVici, on 11 July 2019 - 06:45 PM, said:

And 390 alpha like a high tier 105mm gun should have because this sudden obsession of WG to change things that have been untouched and completely fine for years is getting annoying.

 

Looks at Rhm pzw being the only Lt with a 105mm cannon that does less than 390 :arta:




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