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IntruderFI #1 Posted 17 July 2019 - 02:09 PM

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And not getting blue on test server.

So it will be as i was suspecting all along, arty will get free pass on the new system as well.

So own team arty is allowed to stun all round long and troll people and not even turn blue for it???

 

GG WG an other brain fart from the Ruskie bois.



NUKLEAR_SLUG #2 Posted 17 July 2019 - 02:18 PM

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Even worse, thinking of face hugging that tank so he can't hit your lower plate? Well good luck, enemy arty will be able to drop shells on both of you and he will only get a bit of stun while you take full damage. Fun times. 

Wux777 #3 Posted 17 July 2019 - 02:33 PM

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Stun is awesome, like liamas.

 


Edited by Wux777, 17 July 2019 - 02:34 PM.


VonniVidiVici #4 Posted 17 July 2019 - 02:40 PM

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View PostWux777, on 17 July 2019 - 02:33 PM, said:

Stun is awesome, like liamas.

 

 

Indeed. Both spit in the face of anyone not hiding in cover.

Dr_Blackshark #5 Posted 17 July 2019 - 02:57 PM

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Muhahaahahahahah *laughs in 203mm*

But if everyone is stunned,it's like nobody is stunned, so i wouldn't mind if my arty stunned me and the enemy as well, not to mention if he deals dmg to him.


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Wux777 #6 Posted 17 July 2019 - 03:03 PM

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View PostVonniVidiVici, on 17 July 2019 - 02:40 PM, said:

 

Indeed. Both spit in the face of anyone not hiding in cover.

 

Well we must spit somewhere.

SaintMaddenus #7 Posted 17 July 2019 - 03:04 PM

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View PostDr_Blackshark, on 17 July 2019 - 02:57 PM, said:

Muhahaahahahahah *laughs in 203mm*

But if everyone is stunned,it's like nobody is stunned.

 

No  actually this is a really important point.   If enemy arty can fire at you when you are face hugging because their team take no damage then there is no reason NOT to shoot.  This means that you WILL get stunned.   So the enemy dies but you will then suffer the consequences.  This is not a good thing.  Stun does cause you to slow down, spot less, load slower etc.    It's better than taking team damage but now there is no reason NOT to stun you own team.  Like I said  that's NOT a good thing.

Wux777 #8 Posted 17 July 2019 - 03:06 PM

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Don't worry guys, from 1.6 it will be "dumb no team dmg" gameplay that you wanted so it will be oki doki.

 

I can't believe that you cry for stun too. I don't see in first post team damage, only stun, which means that enemy was damaged in that case.

 

Something is seriously wrong with you.

 

I just hit my teammate for 350dmg and I said sorry and answer was "np"...are you all perfect bois?


Edited by Wux777, 17 July 2019 - 03:11 PM.


SaintMaddenus #9 Posted 17 July 2019 - 03:44 PM

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Stun is something you feel more as you get better at the game,  It does make a difference.  However it is a step forward.  A good step forward that we can't do team damage.     Personally I think its a shame team damage was abused.  That's why it is being removed.   It was used more for griefing than for making sure you play well.  it makes WOT one more step towards arcade...  (ok... its not far off that already ;) )



NUKLEAR_SLUG #10 Posted 17 July 2019 - 04:04 PM

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View PostSaintMaddenus, on 17 July 2019 - 03:04 PM, said:

 

No  actually this is a really important point.   If enemy arty can fire at you when you are face hugging because their team take no damage then there is no reason NOT to shoot.  This means that you WILL get stunned.   So the enemy dies but you will then suffer the consequences.  This is not a good thing.  Stun does cause you to slow down, spot less, load slower etc.    It's better than taking team damage but now there is no reason NOT to stun you own team.  Like I said  that's NOT a good thing.

 

Exactly, all those times before where you were in close combat and the arty would hold their shot until an outcome had been decided.. Not going to matter anymore, they can just yolo shots in safe in the knowledge that they have zero chance of hurting a friendly. 

Edited by NUKLEAR_SLUG, 17 July 2019 - 04:05 PM.


WhoCares01 #11 Posted 17 July 2019 - 04:14 PM

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It's not just the stun - you also get tracked, lose your ammo rack, an injured loader - all the fancy stuff that get's you killed. WG will love it as fartys can drain even more credits from their targets.

Sirebellus #12 Posted 17 July 2019 - 04:31 PM

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Is the issue here that the Team Damage system is based on HP loss caused by the offender - as the Arty causes no 'Direct' HP loss for stun, tracking or Crew injury there is no Team Damage recorded ?

Wux777 #13 Posted 17 July 2019 - 04:52 PM

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How many times you all killed your temmate by accident? How many times you didn't cared about arty marks? How many times you killed your own arty just because? How many times you didn't protected your team arty? How many times you did stun and team damage with arty yourself? Do you know that arty missile can fly up to 5 seconds? Do you know that with 100% crew you can miss exact same spot without moving a mouse?

 

You can't judge book by the cover...;)


Edited by Wux777, 17 July 2019 - 04:56 PM.


Homer_J #14 Posted 17 July 2019 - 05:17 PM

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View PostSaintMaddenus, on 17 July 2019 - 03:44 PM, said:

 Personally I think its a shame team damage was abused.  That's why it is being removed.

 

It was abused because the threshold was set too high and they gave griefers a big blue warning that they are about to get banned.  Not hard to fix without removing it completely.

Laatikkomafia #15 Posted 17 July 2019 - 05:22 PM

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If clickers aren't punished for stunning allies, trust me. I will make a new account, and begin to "encourage" allied campers to fight the enemy, and remind them to not fall back, in the true Soviet Union army fashion.

Wux777 #16 Posted 17 July 2019 - 05:31 PM

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View PostLaatikkomafia, on 17 July 2019 - 05:22 PM, said:

If clickers aren't punished for stunning allies, trust me. I will make a new account, and begin to "encourage" allied campers to fight the enemy, and remind them to not fall back, in the true Soviet Union army fashion.

 

What is exactly "beta tester" in WG? Are you their employee? Do you represent them in any way?

If so, how can you insult players?

 

You are more than a member, right, at least with that title?


Edited by Wux777, 17 July 2019 - 05:34 PM.


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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 17 July 2019 - 01:18 PM, said:

Even worse, thinking of face hugging that tank so he can't hit your lower plate? Well good luck, enemy arty will be able to drop shells on both of you and he will only get a bit of stun while you take full damage. Fun times. 

 

Worse? You've just defeated OP's argument.

Otherwise, please explain me how you're in a disadvantage in that very same situation when it's your arty shooting your enemy and you just getting the stun.



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View PostWux777, on 17 July 2019 - 04:31 PM, said:

 

What is exactly "beta tester" in WG? Are you their employee? Do you represent them in any way?

If so, how can you insult players?

 

You are more than a member, right, at least with that title?

 

There really should be stricter criteria for posting in this section.

 

Anyway, a beta tester in WoT is exactly the same as a beta tester for any other game i.e. someone that played during the beta test phase of development.  So no, he's not an employee & he doesn't represent WG in any way other than as a customer.

 

Some players deserve to be insulted if their actions or words demand it.  Are you a member?  If so, of what?



NUKLEAR_SLUG #19 Posted 17 July 2019 - 06:44 PM

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View PostSpurtung, on 17 July 2019 - 05:34 PM, said:

 

Worse? You've just defeated OP's argument.

Otherwise, please explain me how you're in a disadvantage in that very same situation when it's your arty shooting your enemy and you just getting the stun.

 

Obviously it works both ways. The point, which you apparently missed, was that it is even possible in the first place to be facehugging an enemy, using your armour intelligently to defeat his fire and enable you to win only to get triple-slammed by their arty and lose the fight without the enemy tank getting anything more than a bit of stun.



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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 17 July 2019 - 05:44 PM, said:

 

Obviously it works both ways. The point, which you apparently missed, was that it is even possible in the first place to be facehugging an enemy, using your armour intelligently to defeat his fire and enable you to win only to get triple-slammed by their arty and lose the fight without the enemy tank getting anything more than a bit of stun.

 

Or..."it is (...) possible (...) for an enemy to be facehugging you, using his armour intelligently to defeat your fire and enable him to win only to get triple-slammed by your arty and lose the fight without your tank getting anything more than a bit of stun."

 

Please, tell me how is that different.

 

Because right now, and I speak for myself, the alternative you've got is that your arty would hold the shot, his wouldn't care, and you get rekt. In similar situations I'd watch you die and give you some assist as compensation. Much better than getting stunned and walking away, I bet...






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