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AK_Officer #1 Posted 19 July 2019 - 05:39 PM

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Ok im not a pro player i like the game to play for fun so those rude no lifers avoid this post please,  I hope my question will be answered with respect with no try to insult.

Ok im the one who like to play mediums and collect them so i just researching them one by one.

So the last two were American Patton tier 10 and Udes medium tier 10. Their lower grade tier 9 brothers were nice tanks good tanks fun to play and results were good , with udes medium tier 9  i had the most fun lots of damage lost of bounced shells good win rate.

But once you get tier 10 everything changes , tier 9 tanks are way better than tier 10 excluding Russian line mediums these are good tier 9 and tier 10.

So got tier 10 Patton after a few battles i don't even want to play it no fun at all , got Udes tier 10 medium , Jesus win rate 30% ,gun horrible, mobility poor even most of the tier 10 heavies are more mobile :D If with Udes tier 9 medium i was doing up to 5k damage so with tier 10 im struggle to make 2000k damage

So im a bit confused as difference is huge.

Could someone explain why is that? 

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xx984 #2 Posted 19 July 2019 - 05:48 PM

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Nothing is wrong with them.

 

Just takes more skill to do well, Plus RNG is a factor sometimes. Mix both together and result isnt pretty.

 

But then you wont get better at it unless you play more tier 10 battles unfortunately. I'm a tier 10 player mainly, almost 30k tier 10 battles. I used to be  terrible in all my tier 10s before i got more practice 


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PowJay #3 Posted 19 July 2019 - 05:50 PM

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This is interesting.


FIrst of all, tier X is unforgiving. You are top tier every single battle and never have the chance to shirk responsibility as bottom tier until you see opportunities. You are top tier and therefore it is your responsibility to get stuck in as early as possible so that your tier IX and VIII- where present- are not alone. If you are not up to the task of carrying a poor team, then you will start to see terrible win rates even down into high 30s%

 

Second. It is widely recognised that most tier X are not as good as their previous tier IX when it comes to this responsibility. I have no tier X at all in my sights to buy because I am not good enough in respect of the point above and also because the tanks- in my hands- are not either.

 

Third. You ask that we don't mention your stats. Tough. You are not a terrible player, but if you think that you are going to have an easy time in respect of the first two points with your ability, you are sadly mistaken.

 

Finally, I certainly take your point on the tier IX UDES. You have done well in that. It is certainly disappointing to find out that the tier X you really wanted is not so good in comparison.



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View Postxx984, on 19 July 2019 - 04:48 PM, said:

Nothing is wrong with them.

 

Just takes more skill to do well, Plus RNG is a factor sometimes. Mix both together and result isnt pretty.

 

But then you wont get better at it unless you play more tier 10 battles unfortunately. I'm a tier 10 player mainly, almost 30k tier 10 battles. I used to be  terrible in all my tier 10s before i got more practice 

 

thanks for your reply appreciate it, but using tier 9 tanks I'm was participating in mixed tier 9/10 battles and progress was way better than playing with tier 10 using the same skills I have. 

 



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Does it have an Object in its name? If yes then it is amazing. If not then abandon the line and research an Object.

Jokes aside, tier 10 is so messed up that it is just flat out horrible.



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View PostPowJay, on 19 July 2019 - 04:50 PM, said:

This is interesting.


FIrst of all, tier X is unforgiving. You are top tier every single battle and never have the chance to shirk responsibility as bottom tier until you see opportunities. You are top tier and therefore it is your responsibility to get stuck in as early as possible so that your tier IX and VIII- where present- are not alone. If you are not up to the task of carrying a poor team, then you will start to see terrible win rates even down into high 30s%

 

Second. It is widely recognised that most tier X are not as good as their previous tier IX when it comes to this responsibility. I have no tier X at all in my sights to buy because I am not good enough in respect of the point above and also because the tanks- in my hands- are not either.

 

Third. You ask that we don't mention your stats. Tough. You are not a terrible player, but if you think that you are going to have an easy time in respect of the first two points with your ability, you are sadly mistaken.

 

Finally, I certainly take your point on the tier IX UDES. You have done well in that. It is certainly disappointing to find out that the tier X you really wanted is not so good in comparison.

 

Thank you!!!!

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View PostAK_Officer, on 19 July 2019 - 04:57 PM, said:

 

thanks for your reply appreciate it, but using tier 9 tanks I'm was participating in mixed tier 9/10 battles and progress was way better than playing with tier 10 using the same skills I have. 

 

 

mixed battles you usually play different and more cautious as you are not top tier, atleast i do which has an affect on outcome :P 

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View PostDeadLecter, on 19 July 2019 - 04:58 PM, said:

Does it have an Object in its name? If yes then it is amazing. If not then abandon the line and research an Object.

Jokes aside, tier 10 is so messed up that it is just flat out horrible.

 

Thanks, I have all Russian tier 10 mediums except the newest one k-91 and yes Russian tier 10 mediums are fun and good I have nothing bad to say about them. But the rest nation uhhhhhh terrible, started protego line now will see how they are .

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i used to really enjoy the patton, now it just feels too slow to be in the meta. Also unreliable turret armour in a hull down battle makes it kinda iffy when you get spammed with 330/340 pen heat

 

https://tanks.gg/tank/m48-patton/model?vm=live&cs=obj-907&cl=000001



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View PostAK_Officer, on 19 July 2019 - 04:39 PM, said:

Ok im not a pro player 

 

 



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View PostBordhaw, on 19 July 2019 - 06:38 PM, said:

 

 

 

jesus , looks like I have said for someone like you just to avoid this post do not comment mate no need to litter here.

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View Postbaratoz1701, on 19 July 2019 - 06:04 PM, said:

i used to really enjoy the patton, now it just feels too slow to be in the meta. Also unreliable turret armour in a hull down battle makes it kinda iffy when you get spammed with 330/340 pen heat

 

https://tanks.gg/tank/m48-patton/model?vm=live&cs=obj-907&cl=000001

 

big hull with no armor, sluggish overall mobility, turret looks good on the paper but in tier 10 battles its penetrated too often 

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There is half a hand full of extremly powerfull tier 10 mediums, and then there is nothing and then the rest being rather bad or plain bad.

 

The powercreep of heavies gave heavies a lot more mobility than they traditinally had. Hence there are so many "hybrids" in the game right now, only that the heavy medium hybrids do sacrifice anything any more.



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T10 isn't a right, its a privilege.

 

If OP finds T10 hard then they've just found their endgame...

 

 



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I don't get it; patton and udes are 2 of the best tier 10 meds. Most t10 meds, if not all of them, are good.

 

problem is your stats are pretty poor. 1.3k dpg in tier 10 or 1.2k dpg in tier 9... sorry. You're doing half your hp.

 

don't take me wrong; I don't have a problem with your stats. None of my business. But really it's not the tanks. Those 2 are really good tanks.

 

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 Thanks, I have all Russian tier 10 mediums except the newest one k-91 and yes Russian tier 10 mediums are fun and good I have nothing bad to say about them. But the rest nation uhhhhhh terrible, started protego line now will see how they are .

 

also, you're wrong here. Your highest dpg tank in tier 10 is... patton. Maybe you're having more fun in them, but you're not performing better.

 

But: if you have more fun in the russian ones, play the russian ones. It's a game, not a job.


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View Postsnowlywhite, on 19 July 2019 - 10:26 PM, said:

I don't get it; patton and udes are 2 of the best tier 10 meds. Most t10 meds, if not all of them, are good.

 

problem is your stats are pretty poor. 1.3k dpg in tier 10 or 1.2k dpg in tier 9... sorry. You're doing half your hp.

 

don't take me wrong; I don't have a problem with your stats. None of my business. But really it's not the tanks. Those 2 are really good tanks.

 

 

also, you're wrong here. Your highest dpg tank in tier 10 is... patton. Maybe you're having more fun in them, but you're not performing better.

 

But: if you have more fun in the russian ones, play the russian ones. It's a game, not a job.

 

907, 430U, STB-1, Leopard 1, Obj140, T-62a just a handful of meds that are better than both of those tanks. Not that I disagree with your overall point, but both are very mediocre by comparison.

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View Postsnowlywhite, on 19 July 2019 - 10:26 PM, said:

I don't get it; patton and udes are 2 of the best tier 10 meds. Most t10 meds, if not all of them, are good.

 

problem is your stats are pretty poor. 1.3k dpg in tier 10 or 1.2k dpg in tier 9... sorry. You're doing half your hp.

 

don't take me wrong; I don't have a problem with your stats. None of my business. But really it's not the tanks. Those 2 are really good tanks.

 

 

also, you're wrong here. Your highest dpg tank in tier 10 is... patton. Maybe you're having more fun in them, but you're not performing better.

 

But: if you have more fun in the russian ones, play the russian ones. It's a game, not a job.

sad that WG doesn't give the right to filter brainless people like you, my stats are poor and they have to be , i have never reset my account should i do it now stats would be much better but seems to be you are not able to understand this, next if you would see majority used tanks they are mediums , i rarely use heavies destros are artillery those are the ones used to build up good stats. That's why i have asked not to touch stats, i know how i play and what are my skills and they are not so bad.

Next is . How many tier 10 Pattons or 10 Udes mediums you meet on the field, i will tell very rear very rear mate answer yourself why, couse anyone know they are not good tanks for tier 10 battles as even tier 9 brothers performs better.

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View Postsnowlywhite, on 19 July 2019 - 10:26 PM, said:

I don't get it; patton and udes are 2 of the best tier 10 meds. Most t10 meds, if not all of them, are good.

 

problem is your stats are pretty poor. 1.3k dpg in tier 10 or 1.2k dpg in tier 9... sorry. You're doing half your hp.

 

don't take me wrong; I don't have a problem with your stats. None of my business. But really it's not the tanks. Those 2 are really good tanks.

 

 

also, you're wrong here. Your highest dpg tank in tier 10 is... patton. Maybe you're having more fun in them, but you're not performing better.

 

But: if you have more fun in the russian ones, play the russian ones. It's a game, not a job.

 

and this said by you who doesn't have any of those 2 tanks that's a shame mate really big shame

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View PostRamRaid90, on 19 July 2019 - 11:41 PM, said:

 

907, 430U, STB-1, Leopard 1, Obj140, T-62a just a handful of meds that are better than both of those tanks. Not that I disagree with your overall point, but both are very mediocre by comparison.

 

you can't really compare a patton/udes with a russian med... They're made to do totally different things. That being said, didn't heard many ppl. taking a 140/62a over a patton.

 

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sad that WG doesn't give the right to filter brainless people like you, my stats are poor and they have to be , i have never reset my account should i do it now stats would be much better but seems to be you are not able to understand this, next if you would see majority used tanks they are mediums , i rarely use heavies destros are artillery those are the ones used to build up good stats. That's why i have asked not to touch stats, i know how i play and what are my skills and they are not so bad.

Next is . How many tier 10 Pattons or 10 Udes mediums you meet on the field, i will tell very rear very rear mate answer yourself why, couse anyone know they are not good tanks for tier 10 battles as even tier 9 brothers performs better.

 

1. you play bad; ok? Your tier 10 dmg per game is what I get in a tier 7-8. And I'm not a good player.

2. no, I don't care if you play good or bad. Do you need a drawing?

3. no, you don't perform worse in a patton/udes than in the rest of your tier 10s. The differences are +/- 10% between how you play them. So no clue why you think those are worse.



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View PostAK_Officer, on 20 July 2019 - 04:54 PM, said:

sad that WG doesn't give the right to filter brainless people like you, my stats are poor and they have to be , i have never reset my account should i do it now stats would be much better but seems to be you are not able to understand this, next if you would see majority used tanks they are mediums , i rarely use heavies destros are artillery those are the ones used to build up good stats. That's why i have asked not to touch stats, i know how i play and what are my skills and they are not so bad.

Next is . How many tier 10 Pattons or 10 Udes mediums you meet on the field, i will tell very rear very rear mate answer yourself why, couse anyone know they are not good tanks for tier 10 battles as even tier 9 brothers performs better.

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and this said by you who doesn't have any of those 2 tanks that's a shame mate really big shame

 

I agree with snowlywhite and I have all of those tanks. Udes is great at t10. One of the better mediums at t10 I dare say.

 

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View PostSfinski, on 20 July 2019 - 08:17 PM, said:

 

I agree with snowlywhite and I have all of those tanks. Udes is great at t10. One of the better mediums at t10 I dare say.

 

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ok i see you are a man of the day and you feel proud of insulting other, *EDIT*
Sorry but you have no tier 10 Udes medium so you are even lair thats sad again , you only have undes 16 that is tier 9 and this a great tank as i have mentioned in the post.
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