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Bulldog_Drummond #1 Posted 20 July 2019 - 10:31 PM

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High on my list I would put the DW2, generally regarded as one of the worst tanks in the game, and known as the Douchewagen.

 

But

 

  • It has preferential matchmaking
  • The 50mm armour is not at all bad if angled
  • It does 2120 dpm, which is pretty amazing at tier 4, with rapid fire and high accuracy
  • And it shoots 130 pen APCR, also pretty amazing at tier 4

 

I find that I can win in it more often than not.

 

Any other thoughts on generally despised tanks that actually work?

 

 



24doom24 #2 Posted 20 July 2019 - 11:07 PM

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Huh, it's actually true that it has pref MM, any other purely tech tree tanks with pref MM @ tier 4 or higher? Edit: B1 and type 95 also have pref mm, I guess its a low tier thing.

 

I still chew them up in my Sexton 1:trollface:


Edited by 24doom24, 20 July 2019 - 11:15 PM.


4nt #3 Posted 20 July 2019 - 11:10 PM

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View Post24doom24, on 20 July 2019 - 11:07 PM, said:

Huh, it's actually true that it has pref MM, any other purely tech tree tanks with pref MM?

 

I still chew them up in my Sexton 1:trollface:

Tier 4 heavies have pref MM, inc Japanese and french B1. Perhaps because they cannot handle t5s not to speak of t6s.. 



Bulldog_Drummond #4 Posted 20 July 2019 - 11:11 PM

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View Post24doom24, on 20 July 2019 - 10:07 PM, said:

Huh, it's actually true that it has pref MM, any other purely tech tree tanks with pref MM?

 

I still chew them up in my Sexton 1:trollface:

 

You need to catch me first, and I have heavy spalls on it, so I laugh at your Sexton ;)

 

All tier 4 heavies have pmm, as do all tier 2 and 3 tanks



Fabyx #5 Posted 20 July 2019 - 11:11 PM

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I like the AMX 40. It symbolises the stupidity of British tanks and the superiority of the French nation.

Bulldog_Drummond #6 Posted 20 July 2019 - 11:21 PM

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View Post4nt, on 20 July 2019 - 10:10 PM, said:

Tier 4 heavies have pref MM, inc Japanese and french B1. Perhaps because they cannot handle t5s not to speak of t6s.. 

 

But the thing about the DW2 is that it can quickly and easily hose down any Tier 5 tank.  I was prompted to post this thread by a game half an hour ago in which my DW2 pumped 8 shots into a T1 Heavy and killed it.  

HassenderZerhacker #7 Posted 21 July 2019 - 08:11 AM

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 20 July 2019 - 10:31 PM, said:

... and known as the Douchewagen.

 

In German, instead of the original name "Durchbruchswagen" (translates into breach vehicle), we instead call it "Durchfallwagen" ( = diarrhea tank).

 

But yes, the DW2 can be amazing if it is not played like a heavy at all.

 

in related news: https://www.youtube....h?v=fzbedQsgRsI

 


Edited by HassenderZerhacker, 21 July 2019 - 08:12 AM.


24doom24 #8 Posted 21 July 2019 - 11:14 AM

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 20 July 2019 - 10:11 PM, said:

 

You need to catch me first, and I have heavy spalls on it, so I laugh at your Sexton ;)

 

All tier 4 heavies have pmm, as do all tier 2 and 3 tanks

 

Sexton 1 has AP rounds with 92mm of penetration, spall liner is useless:justwait:

Edited by 24doom24, 21 July 2019 - 11:15 AM.


Negativvv #9 Posted 21 July 2019 - 11:18 AM

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Panther I...

 

It is a great teacher in how to snipe as it has appalling alpha, camo and aimtime but has a place at T7 where it can be very effective.

 

 



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Half the Japanese mediums I'd say.

The Type 91 Heavy is also pretty interesting given its penetration and DPM.



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View PostLeroy_Jenkinss, on 21 July 2019 - 07:35 AM, said:

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View PostHassenderZerhacker, on 21 July 2019 - 07:11 AM, said:

 

In German, instead of the original name "Durchbruchswagen" (translates into breach vehicle), we instead call it "Durchfallwagen" ( = diarrhea tank).

 

But yes, the DW2 can be amazing if it is not played like a heavy at all.

 

in related news: https://www.youtube....h?v=fzbedQsgRsI

 

 

LMAO



FrantisekBascovansky #13 Posted 21 July 2019 - 01:14 PM

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Tetrarch with 121mm APCR pen at tier 2.

Bulldog_Drummond #14 Posted 21 July 2019 - 01:36 PM

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View Post24doom24, on 21 July 2019 - 10:14 AM, said:

 

Sexton 1 has AP rounds with 92mm of penetration, spall liner is useless:justwait:

 

Good luck hitting me with that AP.  I tried out AP shells on my LEF and I don't recall hitting anything, even fully aimed.

 

View PostLeroy_Jenkinss, on 21 July 2019 - 07:35 AM, said:

Reported for spam

 

This is distressing news indeed.

 

View PostFrantisekBascovansky, on 21 July 2019 - 12:14 PM, said:

Tetrarch with 121mm APCR pen at tier 2.

 

The Tetrach gun is almost too good, given that these days it only sees tier 3 at worst.  It makes a lovely sniper and the APCR is a nasty surprise for any PzKw IIJ it can hit at range.



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Churchill GC... Lets be honest. It's a terrible platfrom. It's slow, it's huge and has no armor. But with that gun, sitting on the 2nd line farming tier 8 HT's? SU-100 is def my top pick for the best tier 6 TD as you can even be agressive in it. But this if left unspotted. The CGC in a support role is just nasty with that pen and gun. Swedish tier 6 TD is def my worst TD pick tho. Not this.

 

View PostFrantisekBascovansky, on 21 July 2019 - 01:14 PM, said:

Tetrarch with 121mm APCR pen at tier 2.

 

That gun doesn't appear in the UK tech tree before tier III. So it's one of the more effective gift tanks tbh. I used to take it out each time a bad gift tank came to bully all the T18's going out to farm them. I remember when the T7 CC came that could not pen a T18. So they came out in force. Old Province with binocs, spotting all the T18 campers on the other side and sending 121 pen their way. Still my best game in it.



Bulldog_Drummond #16 Posted 21 July 2019 - 02:23 PM

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I had always assumed that no one but us grognards ever read the forums but my first game today saw no fewer than 8 of us running our DW2.  Coincidence?  I think not.

 

My team pulled out a handy win and the only hit I took was a non-pen from a Matilda.  Yes, that's right, a non-pen from the highest pen gun at tier 4 vs the DW2 paper armour....

 

It was also fun that we took down an over-confident and no doubt very puzzled Luchs in no time at all.

 

http://wotreplays.eu/site/4966045#mines-bulldog_drummond-durchbruchswagen_2


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24doom24 #17 Posted 21 July 2019 - 02:36 PM

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 21 July 2019 - 12:36 PM, said:

 

Good luck hitting me with that AP.  I tried out AP shells on my LEF and I don't recall hitting anything, even fully aimed.

 

 

This is distressing news indeed.

 

 

The Tetrach gun is almost too good, given that these days it only sees tier 3 at worst.  It makes a lovely sniper and the APCR is a nasty surprise for any PzKw IIJ it can hit at range.

 

Why do I need luck? lmao the Dumbwagon2 is a gigantic target.

What do you mean you can't hit anything in the lefh? Are you playing it right? Maybe you should switch to HEAT instead. I find that the lefh is quite accurate for an arty, or maybe it's because I'm good at playing it.:trollface:


Edited by 24doom24, 21 July 2019 - 02:36 PM.


Bulldog_Drummond #18 Posted 21 July 2019 - 02:57 PM

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View Post24doom24, on 21 July 2019 - 01:36 PM, said:

 

Why do I need luck? lmao the Dumbwagon2 is a gigantic target.

What do you mean you can't hit anything in the lefh? Are you playing it right? Maybe you should switch to HEAT instead. I find that the lefh is quite accurate for an arty, or maybe it's because I'm good at playing it.:trollface:

 

I am sure that your latter point is correct.  My only ability in this game is researching and digging out somewhat OP but overlooked low tier tanks and using them to pad.

 

For the sake of clarity, I find HE shots in my LEF most gratifying.  It's only the AP rounds that fail miserably in my inept hands, as the AP has to land on the tank, not near it.  The LEF is the only SPG I have played that can actually carry games, helped by its incredible view range.  I put binos on mine and its 500m view range often lights up most or all of the map.  I even have a Kamikaze medal in it ;)

 

Second game today in DW2 was fun.  Another win and I put some pens into a KV-1S



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The Swedish Premium Strv m/42-57 Alt A.2 is a nasty little beast, which seems to catch most tanks/ players off guard with its auto-loader as most stand their ground until the third shot hits and then consider retreating to cover, by which time a fourth shot has been delivered and their hp is severely depleted - if they're not already a smoking wreck. :justwait:

_DeadWolf #20 Posted 21 July 2019 - 10:51 PM

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the mighty 60G FT.... awesome firepower for a tier 5, 220mm pen heat rounds and respectable AP rounds for 145mm penetration, pretty good gun handling, average mobility but good reverse speed for a low tier TD, plus 8 degrees gun depression which is amazing for a chinese tank.

 

As bottom tier against tier 7s youll be easy food if you get caught out, so sit way in the back with a good line of sight and using as much foliage and camo boosters as possible and your 2.3k dpm and HEAT rounds if needed will tear any tier 7 heavy to pieces.

 

But as top tier youll dominate most games if you play sensibly, tier 4s and 5s will literally die in seconds if they sit in front of you for too long.

 

Literally the only downside to this tank is the HUGE barn house size, VERY easy to hit if you get spotted and have no cover/

 

in fact coming to think of it, the SU-76G FT is also pretty monstrous for a low tier TD, gun depression is very much lacking but over all its a nasty TD to get caught out by, the 85mm gun is pretty deadly even against higher tiers you meet


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