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Perplexed - Why didn't 6th Sense go off?


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Babbet_1 #1 Posted 21 July 2019 - 10:52 PM

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Hi guys - Title says it all really - see attached replay - hit twice, at 14:17 and again at 13:42, but no 6th sense activation. Any ideas please?  http://wotreplays.eu/site/4966622

I thought that the 1st was probably a blind shot, but the 2nd, as soon as I poked out again, seems a bit more than coincidental to me!

 

 

Edited by Babbet_1, 21 July 2019 - 10:57 PM.


Homer_J #2 Posted 21 July 2019 - 10:55 PM

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You can still be hit when you are not spotted but lets work through this logically.

 

1st, lets see your commander.



r00barb #3 Posted 21 July 2019 - 10:59 PM

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He's blind-firing that bush because there's nearly always a TD sat there. You can see a shell hit the wall to the right of your tank shortly before you pull forward again and the second shot hits you.

If_I_Die_You_Die_Too #4 Posted 21 July 2019 - 11:08 PM

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Once you've seen the same map 1000 times you get to know the camper spots

Steve8066 #5 Posted 21 July 2019 - 11:11 PM

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all of the above plus on some rare occasions 6th sense simply doesnt work.

XxKuzkina_MatxX #6 Posted 21 July 2019 - 11:25 PM

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Revenge! :izmena:

 

I like how you check your back from time to time. From the north spawn (yours), you could also use the same position (D7) as your Strv 74. The same position you used around 9:09 in the replay. You can spot the crossing tanks from there at the start then back up behind the bush and shoot them without being spotted or blind fired.

 

Pre-aim the J6 or F2 at the start of the battle. That's where the first spotted tanks will be.

 

The M10 player got 47k battles so he definitely knows where a sniper will be from either spawn. You can blind fire him too at the two bushes before and after the big red house at G3.



Negativvv #7 Posted 22 July 2019 - 01:12 AM

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Spotting I believe is for 10 seconds but Sixth Sense will only display for about 3.

 

Therefore I believe that if you are spotted again before the 10 seconds is out then Sixth Sense doesn't fire again?

 

I enable the 10s Sixth Sense mod so I know when I'm fully safe and out of cover as I can't count to 10 in my head...



Pansenmann #8 Posted 22 July 2019 - 01:36 AM

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View PostNegativvv, on 22 July 2019 - 01:12 AM, said:

Spotting I believe is for 10 seconds but Sixth Sense will only display for about 3.

 

Therefore I believe that if you are spotted again before the 10 seconds is out then Sixth Sense doesn't fire again?

 

I enable the 10s Sixth Sense mod so I know when I'm fully safe and out of cover as I can't count to 10 in my head...

 

but even that is misleading, as you can be spotted for much longer from someone else :):bush:

Negativvv #9 Posted 22 July 2019 - 01:45 AM

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View PostPansenmann, on 22 July 2019 - 01:36 AM, said:

 

but even that is misleading, as you can be spotted for much longer from someone else :):bush:

 

Well yes that is true but if a situation is "that" hot then Sixth Sense can't really be relied on. 

 

My example is for when say you're spotting as an LT, you've peaked and Sixth Sense goes off. If you move or peak again too soon then it won't activate as you haven't slipped back into non spotted status. 


Also I know there is Eagle Eye or whatever that extra spotting perk is too so it can be longer than 10s vs high skill crews :trollface:



Balc0ra #10 Posted 22 July 2019 - 03:24 AM

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He is blind firing the common spots. As besides your two hits. There were impacts on the wall behind you too, and right in front of you. Indicating he did go for your and the spot the Strv 74 was at. He moves around to different spot and do one thing. He checks for a lack of impact on his rounds.

 

On your first hit you knocked over the tree. And I'm sure he noticed the lack of impact on the wall next to you. Two clear signs for him that something was there. Then shots landed on the building behind you as he went for the 74's area again. On the second hit, right before you moved up. A shot landed on the wall next to you. And you moved up to take the next one. As then he was blind firing your spot again.

 

It's that simple. That and if you check the stats on him. 27 shots fired, 12 hits, 10 pens. He did fire a fair few on the spots around you. Next time you wonder what did happen. Send a few PM's to the enemy team and ask for a replay to see when you first were spotted etc. Or if you even were perma spotted etc. Not the case here, but you get the point. 



BeefCrtinBandit #11 Posted 22 July 2019 - 05:24 AM

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you get used to this if you play TDs more often. The better players will take blind shots at all the common bushes.  You're bound to take a shot here and there because of it. You just have to adjust where you sit behind said bush.  Live and learn ya know?

NUKLEAR_SLUG #12 Posted 22 July 2019 - 05:48 AM

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Yep, if he was blind firing and knew he had hit something then it makes sense that he might give you a little time to feel safe again before putting a couple more shots into the same place.


Babbet_1 #13 Posted 22 July 2019 - 04:38 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 21 July 2019 - 10:55 PM, said:

You can still be hit when you are not spotted but lets work through this logically.

 

1st, lets see your commander.

 

Thank you Homer - yes, I should have thought to include that with my opening post:  https://i.imgur.com/MzwsWsb.png

Babbet_1 #14 Posted 22 July 2019 - 05:01 PM

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Thank you very much for your comments everyone - I can see now that this is clearly a case of blind firing - I have been obliterated by artillery blind shooting that spot in the past, which is why I initially tucked myself against the left-hand wall. Obviously should have waited longer before poking, or cleared off from that spot after the 1st hit. As CraftyVeteran says - Live and Learn! At least I lived to return the favour, which is somewhat unusual for me!

Thank you also to XxKuzkina and Balc0ra for the additional advice - very much appreciated - I will try to put it all to good use!  :)






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