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7524 #1 Posted 24 July 2019 - 06:28 PM

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Dear WG when you plan to nerf that pece of unreality in this game? Ok , understand that you have taken people money, but come on... I would also draw attention to the extreme censorship of criticizing vehicles with wheels.I understand that it is an insult to your vanity but wheeled vehicles are major failure and by punishment you can not get rid of dissatisfaction of players. I dont want to play counter strike with tanks!

 

p.s. *edited*


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Spurtung #2 Posted 24 July 2019 - 06:29 PM

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Yet another thread about it? *yawn*

 

Not to mention, it's a premium tank that a lot of people own...not happening, you'll just have to deal with it.



Yaccay #3 Posted 24 July 2019 - 06:33 PM

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It aint gonna happen.

According to WG's balancing, everything is fine.

 

Btw, EBR is premium tank, so it will never ever will be nerfed.



Ringo_Star #4 Posted 24 July 2019 - 06:41 PM

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After Super Pershing debacle, WG will never nerf premium tank ever again. If they nerf even one stat ( hitbox, speed, gun etc) I will demand full refund and I am sure that the rest of EBR drivers will do the same.

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Sure. Can we nerf the clip size of your 13 57 too then? I'm sure you won't mind as you paid for it and all.

I_Gutmensch_Deluxe_I #6 Posted 24 July 2019 - 07:06 PM

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I would vote: Remove them!

 



Balc0ra #7 Posted 24 July 2019 - 07:21 PM

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View PostI_Gutmensch_Deluxe_I, on 24 July 2019 - 07:06 PM, said:

I would vote: Remove them!

 

 

Well, he is right about one thing. They are a major failure. As in a failure at doing the job WG made them for. As why they are balanced they way they are. And the non prem tanks should def be fixed to make them able to do that job. Even if they go a bit slower.

 

But an easy fix that doesn't need balance testing. Or a removal, that I suspect would make some hate them a bit less. Is the to fix the wheel armor. As in give them a hitbox that stops HE. But don't count it as spaced armor to stop AP. As now when a wheeled light yoloes your group. It takes way to many zero damage crit hits, and it gets to close. If every shot did damage to the wheel and armor. And they died faster. I suspect less would rage about them. And wheels would have to take more risks to be get the reward. As the amount of shots that do nothing on FL on mine is insane. And way higher then it should be.


Edited by Balc0ra, 24 July 2019 - 07:21 PM.


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ok, don't nerf them, but make the shells that land on them count. It's hard enough to hit them with their physics-defying movement and speed, but having to deal with their spongebob shell absorbing tires is just too much.

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View PostRingo_Star, on 24 July 2019 - 06:41 PM, said:

After Super Pershing debacle, WG will never nerf premium tank ever again. If they nerf even one stat ( hitbox, speed, gun etc) I will demand full refund and I am sure that the rest of EBR drivers will do the same.

 

I would be fine with them nerfing my EBR 75.

 

Maybe I would feel differently if I had paid money for it but I like to think I would still understand for reasons of healthy game balance.



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View PostSultz33, on 24 July 2019 - 06:47 PM, said:

 

I would be fine with them nerfing my EBR 75.

 

Maybe I would feel differently if I had paid money for it but I like to think I would still understand for reasons of healthy game balance.

Well, that is really noble of you. But for me it is not important if someone invested money or time. I have invested something in a tank I really enjoy playing. If they nerf even slight aspect of that tank( Hell, even hardcap in FL, I would consider a nerf), I deserve refund ( as per Super Peeshing precetend). I am sure that 99.7 % of EBR drivers will feel the same. 



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View PostRingo_Star, on 24 July 2019 - 07:56 PM, said:

Well, that is really noble of you. But for me it is not important if someone invested money or time. I have invested something in a tank I really enjoy playing. If they nerf even slight aspect of that tank( Hell, even hardcap in FL, I would consider a nerf), I deserve refund ( as per Super Peeshing precetend). I am sure that 99.7 % of EBR drivers will feel the same. 

 

A nerf won't happen anyway so no worries.

 

I think nerfs to the 90 and 105 are a bigger issue anyway. Either that or redesign a load of maps so some tanks at least get the chance to load before they are spotted and shot at.



Benistown_GagsoisbisteDD #12 Posted 24 July 2019 - 08:13 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 24 July 2019 - 07:21 PM, said:

 

Well, he is right about one thing. They are a major failure. As in a failure at doing the job WG made them for. As why they are balanced they way they are. And the non prem tanks should def be fixed to make them able to do that job. Even if they go a bit slower.

 

But an easy fix that doesn't need balance testing. Or a removal, that I suspect would make some hate them a bit less. Is the to fix the wheel armor. As in give them a hitbox that stops HE. But don't count it as spaced armor to stop AP. As now when a wheeled light yoloes your group. It takes way to many zero damage crit hits, and it gets to close. If every shot did damage to the wheel and armor. And they died faster. I suspect less would rage about them. And wheels would have to take more risks to be get the reward. As the amount of shots that do nothing on FL on mine is insane. And way higher then it should be.

 

View PostDraconic, on 24 July 2019 - 07:27 PM, said:

ok, don't nerf them, but make the shells that land on them count. It's hard enough to hit them with their physics-defying movement and speed, but having to deal with their spongebob shell absorbing tires is just too much.


The shells that doesnt "count" hits the wheel but not the armor ( goes under the tank ), it doesnt have some magical wheel armor.
Only way it can bounce ap and apcr is if it hits the nose or rear in an angle.

 



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View PostRingo_Star, on 24 July 2019 - 06:56 PM, said:

Well, that is really noble of you. But for me it is not important if someone invested money or time. I have invested something in a tank I really enjoy playing. If they nerf even slight aspect of that tank( Hell, even hardcap in FL, I would consider a nerf), I deserve refund ( as per Super Peeshing precetend). I am sure that 99.7 % of EBR drivers will feel the same. 

 

Does that mean the Sexton I and the 105 leFH18B2 can platoon with other SPGs or circumvent the maximum number of SPGs per match rule?

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View PostSpurtung, on 24 July 2019 - 07:43 PM, said:

 

Does that mean the Sexton I and the 105 leFH18B2 can platoon with other SPGs or circumvent the maximum number of SPGs per match rule?

That is up to Sexton and LeFH drivers. If that hinders their enjoyment, they should complain.I know it sounds a little petty, but WG kind of opened Panodora's box with Super Pershing nerf.


Edited by Ringo_Star, 24 July 2019 - 09:05 PM.


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View PostRingo_Star, on 24 July 2019 - 08:02 PM, said:

That is up to Sexton and LeFH drivers. If that hinders their enjoyment, they should complain.I know it sounds a little petty, but WG kind of opened Panodora's box with Super Pershing nerf.

 

The tank itself is untouched, as EBR would be if they limited their numbers. You'd have as ground to complain about it as if they would buff every other tank there is and render every single premium a pile of junk.

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View Post7524, on 24 July 2019 - 06:28 PM, said:

 

p.s. *edited*

 



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View PostSultz33, on 24 July 2019 - 08:02 PM, said:

 

 

 

I think nerfs to the 90 and 105 are a bigger issue anyway. Either that or redesign a load of maps so some tanks at least get the chance to load before they are spotted and shot at.

 

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If_I_Die_You_Die_Too #18 Posted 24 July 2019 - 11:50 PM

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Welcome to the ME262 of WoT

 

so

 

Should you just surrender son?

 

Is that the best you've got?



Draconic #19 Posted 25 July 2019 - 08:13 AM

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View PostBenistown_GagsoisbisteDD, on 24 July 2019 - 08:13 PM, said:

 


The shells that doesnt "count" hits the wheel but not the armor ( goes under the tank ), it doesnt have some magical wheel armor.
Only way it can bounce ap and apcr is if it hits the nose or rear in an angle.

 

I know what happens and why I don't make damage to it, what I'm saying is, that this mechanic is completely wrong. EBR is composed 2/3 of tires, which means you almost always hit them while on the move. I challenge anyone to aim accurately for EBR parts that DO take damage, while it's runing full speed around. I firmly believe, that if we go to a test range and fire a tank shell against a car and hit its tire, it will do something more than slowing it down. Even if it hits the tire alone and not the car behind it. And let's not open the arcade vs. real tank sim dispute, it goes both ways.



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View PostBalc0ra, on 24 July 2019 - 05:47 PM, said:

Sure. Can we nerf the clip size of your 13 57 too then? I'm sure you won't mind as you paid for it and all.

 

That's actually a good comparison. 

 

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13-57 is far more OP and powerful than the EBR 75 is, don't see the OP complaining about the 13-57 he happens to own and has played to his advantage. 






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