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Hedgehog_small_tanks #21 Posted 25 July 2019 - 11:14 AM

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So tell me where I can spend money on this mode.... Can't see it...

TungstenHitman #22 Posted 25 July 2019 - 11:16 AM

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And what's the problem with it? I don't see any problem here at all. This game has always offered a pay option to accelerate whatever you are trying to achieve in the game, it's one of the less game breaking ways WG have to generate income from what is a business after all, offered as free2play, which it is. This is no different from a premium account, which is pay to get 50% more everything along with other bonuses. No different, slug along and grind away for free and eventually get there or pay to get there faster. How is there anything wrong with that, it's a free2play game but obviously there's no way that's possible to run for free, the staff, the overheads, venues, events etc, it's not possible obviously and the creating was to make money, like any business. Actually I much prefer these income generating ways as an alternative to some stupid game breaking options like and OP premium or God knows what. This isn't going to effect gameplay, that's always a good thing. 

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arthurwellsley #23 Posted 25 July 2019 - 11:24 AM

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View PostHedgehog_small_tanks, on 25 July 2019 - 10:14 AM, said:

So tell me where I can spend money on this mode.... Can't see it...

 

Me too. Debit card ready, checked Premium shop, nope cannot buy level IV on a single front let alone all six.

Dragos_CS I am disappointed that your original post seemed to make the idea of buying what I wanted so simple.


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Hedgehog_small_tanks #24 Posted 25 July 2019 - 11:37 AM

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Thing is that there's no fuel left after 2 battles.  I can never read the missions from the missions tab because it is difficult to see what tier vehicles are there.

LordMuffin #25 Posted 25 July 2019 - 12:03 PM

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View PostHedgehog_small_tanks, on 25 July 2019 - 11:14 AM, said:

So tell me where I can spend money on this mode.... Can't see it...

Then look harder. You can buy your way up the levels, which gives more fuel.

Which I presume also gives the improved equipment. 


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TungstenHitman #26 Posted 25 July 2019 - 12:18 PM

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So how much does it cost just to buy the improved rammer and skip all of it?

undutchable80 #27 Posted 25 July 2019 - 12:19 PM

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View PostLordMuffin, on 25 July 2019 - 12:03 PM, said:

Then look harder. You can buy your way up the levels, which gives more fuel.

Which I presume also gives the improved equipment. 

 

Nope, you still need to earn 2000 xp points to get the improved equipment

Hedgehog_small_tanks #28 Posted 25 July 2019 - 12:30 PM

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 25 July 2019 - 10:24 AM, said:

 

Me too. Debit card ready, checked Premium shop, nope cannot buy level IV on a single front let alone all six.

Dragos_CS I am disappointed that your original post seemed to make the idea of buying what I wanted so simple.

 

So I found it no thanks to Lordcretin.

 

In the mode you have one of the divisions selected.  Centre near the top it says "Description" on which you click.  Then click on the special offer.  For 1500 you can buy level 3 for each division  without all three of which in a given front you can't get the enhanced equipment. and get a shedload of the fuel tokens.  You get directives and premium and the fancy camo jobs as well by the look of it.

 

Interestingly you may also be able to buy the level II for more fuel.  Hopefully enough to play the battles to earn the 2000 points for the kit.

 

I was sat on 20k gold and no use for it so...

 

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So how much does it cost just to buy the improved rammer and skip all of it?

 

You can't.

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Hedgehog_small_tanks #29 Posted 25 July 2019 - 12:57 PM

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Ok so now I just played a battle in the Ironsides division.  I've bought level III which means my three tanks are KV-1S KV-1 and T-34 and it felt to me that the enemy strength was increased because of my tanks.  The big problem is that the  other members of the team are in their level I tanks!   They stood no chance and I can't battle all those hordes of extra tanks by myself. 

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View PostHedgehog_small_tanks, on 25 July 2019 - 12:57 PM, said:

Ok so now I just played a battle in the Ironsides division.  I've bought level III which means my three tanks are KV-1S KV-1 and T-34 and it felt to me that the enemy strength was increased because of my tanks.  The big problem is that the  other members of the team are in their level I tanks!   They stood no chance and I can't battle all those hordes of extra tanks by myself. 

 

Yes, it says so in the video, if you toon up with people of lower tiers, the highest tier applies to all regarding the # of waves you have to fight off. Kinda like tooning in Randoms with a PMM tank and a non-PMM tank; you always end up +2

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View Postundutchable80, on 25 July 2019 - 11:59 AM, said:

 

Yes, it says so in the video, if you toon up with people of lower tiers, the highest tier applies to all regarding the # of waves you have to fight off. Kinda like tooning in Randoms with a PMM tank and a non-PMM tank; you always end up +2

 

I didn't platoon up.

arthurwellsley #32 Posted 25 July 2019 - 02:03 PM

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View PostHedgehog_small_tanks, on 25 July 2019 - 11:30 AM, said:

 

So I found it no thanks to Lordcretin.

 

In the mode you have one of the divisions selected.  Centre near the top it says "Description" on which you click.  Then click on the special offer.  For 1500 you can buy level 3 for each division  without all three of which in a given front you can't get the enhanced equipment. and get a shedload of the fuel tokens.  You get directives and premium and the fancy camo jobs as well by the look of it.

 

Interestingly you may also be able to buy the level II for more fuel.  Hopefully enough to play the battles to earn the 2000 points for the kit.

 

I was sat on 20k gold and no use for it so...

 

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You can't.

 

Thanks for this information.

So I take it that 1,500 gold will be required to buy into each of the six divisions at level III and then play the remainder to get to level IV. First however waiting a few days for the non-purchasers to catch up to level III by grinding so that my allies are vaguely useful.

1,500 multiplied by the six divisions therefore requires 9,000 gold is that correct?

I am out of the office on a laptop and so cannot log into the game currently to check for myself.


 

 



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hmmm, so 4500 gold for a teeny tiny shorter reload time or micro improvement to gun handling on the move that you wouldn't even notice. That's about €16 with the current discounted gold. Is a 2.5% faster reload worth €16? Is a 2.5% improvement to Vstab you definitely wont notice worth €16? I'll sit on the fence with it for a while but it seems kinda dumb to me. Is this once of those sort of game modes where it's relatively fast and easy to do what's effectively a 70-80% discount and then if you don't have the time, just pay for the remaining 20%? which means its more like €3-€4?

 

Edit- don't get me wrong though, I definitely do want those tiny improvements. When I played DarkSouls a lot, I used to spend hours farming Darkwraiths to get an ultra rare Titanite Slab drop just for a tiny improvement to equipment lol. In combat, every tiny advantage is still worth having and who knows how many just barley kills instead of being just barely killed that translates into over time, a lot most likely. 


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View Postarthurwellsley, on 25 July 2019 - 01:03 PM, said:

 

Thanks for this information.

So I take it that 1,500 gold will be required to buy into each of the six divisions at level III  Yes and then play the remainder to get to level IV.  There is no level IV.  You have to get to level III to have the opportunity to get the equipment.  Then you need the 2000 widgets.  You can be earning the widgets all along though. First however waiting a few days for the non-purchasers to catch up to level III by grinding so that my allies are vaguely useful.  There's opportunity to earn more fuel in random battles in the meantime.

1,500 multiplied by the six divisions therefore requires 9,000 gold is that correct?  Yes.

I am out of the office on a laptop and so cannot log into the game currently to check for myself.


 

 

 

 

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View PostHedgehog_small_tanks, on 25 July 2019 - 01:09 PM, said:

 

I didn't platoon up.

 

If you enter a battle solo and are matched with different tiered players the same applies: highest tiered member will dictate the # of waves and difficulty

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View Postundutchable80, on 25 July 2019 - 01:48 PM, said:

 

If you enter a battle solo and are matched with different tiered players the same applies: highest tiered member will dictate the # of waves and difficulty

 

Yeah.  This sin't good for either me (team mates' tanks too weak) or the rest of the team (only my tanks are strong).

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View PostHedgehog_small_tanks, on 25 July 2019 - 02:50 PM, said:

 

Yeah.  This sin't good for either me (team mates' tanks too weak) or the rest of the team (only my tanks are strong).

 

Indeed, you will lose more games since you are level 3 and the others most likely are not. So it was better to wait a bit till the 'normal' players also reached a higher level or just platoon with more level 3 players.

Since you bought your way up now it will only slow you down the first days.



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View PostJumping_Turtle, on 25 July 2019 - 01:57 PM, said:

 

Indeed, you will lose more games since you are level 3 and the others most likely are not. So it was better to wait a bit till the 'normal' players also reached a higher level or just platoon with more level 3 players.

Since you bought your way up now it will only slow you down the first days.

 

I guess that's why it would make sense to organize some players to toon with before you embark in this game mode, players that have also payed for the better tanks or however it works. Even just tooning with good players should probably be enough to make some inroads as a free to play. At least that way you are removing the random bob that's barely ever played this game, is clueless or just goes afk for the session.

 

I'll check it out later this evening and over the weekend too when available so if anyone's interested in tooning, just send me a friend request and we'll get through it without being dragged down by the hopeless and the afk'rs. There's plenty of 54+% players on my friends list so hopefully they're interested in playing too, and think this could be a bit of fun even if played sober. 



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View Postarthurwellsley, on 25 July 2019 - 02:03 PM, said:

 

Thanks for this information.

So I take it that 1,500 gold will be required to buy into each of the six divisions at level III and then play the remainder to get to level IV. First however waiting a few days for the non-purchasers to catch up to level III by grinding so that my allies are vaguely useful.

1,500 multiplied by the six divisions therefore requires 9,000 gold is that correct?

I am out of the office on a laptop and so cannot log into the game currently to check for myself.


 

 

You only get a certain amount of battles per day, so if you wait to long,  you might not be able to make it due to number of battle per day restrictions. 



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View PostLordMuffin, on 25 July 2019 - 03:43 PM, said:

You only get a certain amount of battles per day, so if you wait to long,  you might not be able to make it due to number of battle per day restrictions. 

 

But the fuel stacks so no problem for the two free dialy ones.




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