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Stubborn82 #1 Posted 25 July 2019 - 10:32 AM

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That's it. The new "PVE" gamemode is Wargaming's silliest idea ever released. I dare you to change my mind!

Without even looking what the intended rewards, are let me quickly point and outline the lack of thought they've put into this.

 

Players are going out in T3 "tanks" with limited ammo and no proper equipment (nets, binos, so on). We're fighting against T3, T5 and T7 German tanks quickly rushing through the open fields and can't be spotted until it's too late (view range is crapat T3, we all know it). We're split in divisions consisting of 4 tanks each covering front-line of what that's the size of normal "random battle" map. There's just one tank (T28) which can traverse the front-line almost in time. The other are utterly slow and anti-mobile. Our tanks can be 2-shoted by the Tiger and 3-shoted by the Panters, while our tanks are doing ~50dmg per shot.
Good luck to the comrades that are still stuck in their T28s (which shoots only HE btw) when the Panters are released or when he's the only tank left against the Tiger. Just referencing the issue, nothing that the rest of your "teammates" couldn't handle, right?!

What this mod does well, however, is to teach inexperienced players (and not only btw) that the best strategy is to pick up any kind of bush near the spawn area, sit there and wait for the enemies to come so you can shoot at them.
There's nothing game-play wise that deserves any attention. Stupid, stupid, stupid!

Maybe if WG's have thought about this "Homefront" game-mode more than 2sec, they could have balanced it out better or emphasized different game-play mechanics and tactics. It could have been really fun chill-out mode. But no, the only idea that they could come up with in 2seconds of "brainstorming" is turn it in to the next hard-core, never-ending-grind, camp-in-the-back-or-bush fiesta that we "love" and "enjoy" in every other game-mode available.

Job well done Wargaming!




 



Dr_Blackshark #2 Posted 25 July 2019 - 10:50 AM

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At least the game mode is historycally accurate. In ww2 t28s, t46s and in the late stage t34s were facing the tigers and panthers, not bobjects.

s3thus #3 Posted 25 July 2019 - 10:52 AM

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WG please fix Homefronts I can't camp corner in my five skill T67 working hard on my potato stats.

onderschepper #4 Posted 25 July 2019 - 11:00 AM

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"Limited Ammo" - Have you even looked at the map, there are several resupply areas therein one of which is located on the Red side of the map, which contradicts the notion that one should camp in order to win.

Edited by onderschepper, 25 July 2019 - 11:15 AM.


fwhaatpiraat #5 Posted 25 July 2019 - 11:04 AM

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Maybe a nice game mode for the people that have 45% overall winrate? It might suit them better.

tajj7 #6 Posted 25 July 2019 - 11:04 AM

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View PostDr_Blackshark, on 25 July 2019 - 09:50 AM, said:

At least the game mode is historycally accurate. In ww2 t28s, t46s and in the late stage t34s were facing the tigers and panthers, not bobjects.

 

Er not really, the Panther tank didn't appear on Eastern front until mid to late 1943. 

 

Four Tigers saw some action on the Eastern front in September 1942, but no real larger numbers were deployed until 1943.

 

So for Operation Barbarossa it was actually the German's whos Panzer 3s and Panzer 4s were actually facing the superior T-34s and KV-1s and having massive trouble with them.  But due to poor tank training, mechanical issues, poor tactics and lack of radios the Soviets used these new tanks poorly. 

 

T-28s and T-46s were used in 1941, but pretty much phased out by 1942/1943 so would not have encountered Tigers and Panthers.

 

So if you want historically accuracy you'd have KV-1s and T-34s, as well as T28s etc. facing Panzer 2s, 3s and 4s in the main as well as 38ts. 


Edited by tajj7, 25 July 2019 - 11:04 AM.


malachi6 #7 Posted 25 July 2019 - 11:07 AM

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Why discuss anything with this guy.  His first comment was you will not change his mind.  He probably still believes in the tooth fairy.  Never let the fact that it is not out yet or that you have yet to play it get in the way of a good whine.  Express concerns sure, instead, there is an assertion of lack of thought and a catalogue of under-informed argument.  It does strike me as a person hoping to play overpowered tank and farm being disappointed, as stated above me.

4nt #8 Posted 25 July 2019 - 11:11 AM

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Why bother trying the mode (as it is out now) and get facts straight when you can whine... Neither t-28 had any HE available, you can resupply, haven't yet had team that bushwanked on the redline, t-28 is the slowest of tanks that can be used and it ain't slough...

the_nebuchadnezzar #9 Posted 25 July 2019 - 11:12 AM

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Anyone willing to explain me why I could play only 2 games? What`s the deal with those canister things? 

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View Postthe_nebuchadnezzar, on 25 July 2019 - 11:12 AM, said:

Anyone willing to explain me why I could play only 2 games? What`s the deal with those canister things? 

It's a restriction on not being able just to spam Battle and thus getting there eventually. Fuel replenishes with time.

 

Edit: read on other thread that fuel can be regained by playing randoms. Cannot confirm, and cannot say how many times a day if there is a limit.

 

IMO a good thing, encouraging most to at least try to win instead of classic Battle -> AFK -> profit.


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Stubborn82 #11 Posted 25 July 2019 - 11:16 AM

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View Postmalachi6, on 25 July 2019 - 11:07 AM, said:

Why discuss anything with this guy.  His first comment was you will not change his mind.  He probably still believes in the tooth fairy.  Never let the fact that it is not out yet or that you have yet to play it get in the way of a good whine.  Express concerns sure, instead, there is an assertion of lack of thought and a catalogue of under-informed argument.  It does strike me as a person hoping to play overpowered tank and farm being disappointed, as stated above me.

 

Why bother typing anything if you can't understand what's the meaning of a short sentence with just 6 words in it? I clearly said "I dare you to change my mind!".
If you think that's whining from my side, then OK, jump to another topic. It's quite clear the points I made are all there and you didn't contribute in proving me wrong.

As it goes to the OP tanks I'm playing, the most OP tank I have is Obj.430. But it's nowhere near relevant to why I started the topic. So, please, shut up :)
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View Postonderschepper, on 25 July 2019 - 11:00 AM, said:

"Limited Ammo" - Have you even looked at the map, there are several resupply areas therein one of which is located on the Red side of the map, which contradicts the notion that one should camp in order to win.

 

That's right but Good Luck driving in Matilda or Valentine to get to them.
And the amount of ammo resupplied is somewhat random to me: once I'll get 5 rounds, the next time 15, etc. Don't know what the actual numbers are but you have 2.0sec rate of fire with 30-40 rounds you'll be in serious trouble while shooting the 4 Panters for example. There will be situations that you need to decide if you want to die and respawn in another tank or rather drive donuts around the map for 2mins and loose the game.
It's all set up very nicely and the ammo issue is quite well balanced. I think NOT!

DEADSNAKE2 #12 Posted 25 July 2019 - 11:26 AM

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Well, yes you're severely undergunned. That's why you get the strike consumables. And those are pretty strong. A strafe attack stirke is capable to entirely destroy a panther if you put it down at the right place at the right time(put it down so the strafe attack hits the tanks from either the side or rear to deal much more damage)

 

Also as you tier up and get better vehicles, the enemy is much likely to have the same going for them. Can't wait to tier up and face Jagdpanthers and King Tigers in tier II. And who knows, probably a Maus in tier III, judging by WG's marvelous ideas they have sometimes :hiding:


Edited by DEADSNAKE2, 25 July 2019 - 11:31 AM.


the_nebuchadnezzar #13 Posted 25 July 2019 - 11:32 AM

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View Post4nt, on 25 July 2019 - 10:15 AM, said:

It's a restriction on not being able just to spam Battle and thus getting there eventually. Fuel replenishes with time.

 

IMO a good thing, encouraging most to at least try to win instead of classic Battle -> AFK -> profit.

 

Hmmm... I had 2 games today and won them both. I wasn`t on top but not last either. And now you telling me I have to wait 18 hours before being able to play again (presumably another 2 games before another very long pause) or, alternatively, use gold to buy some?! Great. Another „amazing“ mode from WG! I don`t know why I expected anything from them... It`s BS like usual! 

Steve8066 #14 Posted 25 July 2019 - 11:43 AM

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Played my 4 battles for today, wont be bothering anymore.

malachi6 #15 Posted 25 July 2019 - 12:55 PM

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View PostStubborn82, on 25 July 2019 - 11:16 AM, said:

 

Why bother typing anything if you can't understand what's the meaning of a short sentence with just 6 words in it? I clearly said "I dare you to change my mind!".
If you think that's whining from my side, then OK, jump to another topic. It's quite clear the points I made are all there and you didn't contribute in proving me wrong.

As it goes to the OP tanks I'm playing, the most OP tank I have is Obj.430. But it's nowhere near relevant to why I started the topic. So, please, shut up :)
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That's right but Good Luck driving in Matilda or Valentine to get to them.
And the amount of ammo resupplied is somewhat random to me: once I'll get 5 rounds, the next time 15, etc. Don't know what the actual numbers are but you have 2.0sec rate of fire with 30-40 rounds you'll be in serious trouble while shooting the 4 Panters for example. There will be situations that you need to decide if you want to die and respawn in another tank or rather drive donuts around the map for 2mins and loose the game.
It's all set up very nicely and the ammo issue is quite well balanced. I think NOT!

 

In this situation, I do not need to prove you wrong.  You have not played the mode and have already made up your mind about it.  This is evidence of a closed mind.  My assertion that your mind is closed is just that.  For me to prove otherwise would be to prove a negative with is patently impossible

Frarel #16 Posted 25 July 2019 - 01:32 PM

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so stupid you can only play 4 times a day.

Balc0ra #17 Posted 25 July 2019 - 01:34 PM

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Well it's more or less WOT consoles idea from one of their events. As they have several PVE modes as is. Inc War stories. So you can blame Day one studios for the "great" idea.

Xandania #18 Posted 25 July 2019 - 01:38 PM

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View PostFrarel, on 25 July 2019 - 12:32 PM, said:

so stupid you can only play 4 times a day.

 

The limit I'm most annoyed by given the short timeframe of the event ^^

hasnainrakha57 #19 Posted 25 July 2019 - 01:40 PM

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Ya useless mod with useless rewards.. disappointed :(

Kohlebagger #20 Posted 25 July 2019 - 02:16 PM

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better question is why we aren't playing the germans




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