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ziratulbihac #1 Posted 28 July 2019 - 09:18 AM

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I already had my friend quit cause he did not want to play with his stock t-34-85 against defender, superpershing, is3 IN EVERY GAME!!!!!!

100 pen 100 dmg against defender? 

 

At least reward them with EXP so they can skip that horror easily. 

 

Literally every game in Tier 6 was against Tier 8.

 

It is not playable at all. 

 

It is absolutely unfair. 

 

Tier 8 CAN play against Tier 10

Tier 7 CAN play against tier 9

 

But tier 6 CAN NOT play against tier 8!



shikaka9 #2 Posted 28 July 2019 - 09:19 AM

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View Postziratulbihac, on 28 July 2019 - 08:18 AM, said:

 

Tier 8 CAN play against Tier 10

Tier 7 CAN play against tier 9

 

 

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vasilinhorulezz #3 Posted 28 July 2019 - 09:20 AM

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I play a lot of tier VIII, and believe me, the times I meet tier VI are more rare than the white rhinoceros . But yea, tier VI and VII mm are pretty bad atm.

SuperOlsson #4 Posted 28 July 2019 - 09:20 AM

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Agreed, the game would be better without tier 6 facing tier 8. Personally I don't even think it's fun to face tier 6 when I'm tier 8.

ziratulbihac #5 Posted 28 July 2019 - 09:22 AM

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View Postshikaka9, on 28 July 2019 - 08:19 AM, said:

 

:harp:

 

Don't you think that Tier 8s have descent Guns to shoot weakpoints of tier 9 and 10's especially 9's they have a plenty of weak points. 

Tier 6's don't have descent guns for 8s, maybe few TD's but that's all. 

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View Postvasilinhorulezz, on 28 July 2019 - 08:20 AM, said:

I play a lot of tier VIII, and believe me, the times I meet tier VI are more rare than the white rhinoceros . But yea, tier VI and VII mm are pretty bad atm.

 

t6 vs t8 will ruin the game...

 

New Players won't tolerate that [edited]. 

 

I will..cause I know that 8 and 10 are competitive and I would wait... but new players will just uninstall the game. 



malachi6 #6 Posted 28 July 2019 - 09:24 AM

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Your asserting that you only ever face tier 8's and always against Defenders etc, is demonstrably false; given how the MM works and the numbers of differing tier 8 tanks people play.  It may feel like you are always bottom tier but the MM is designed to prevent that from happening. It may feel like it is, that is just confirmation bias.

If_I_Die_You_Die_Too #7 Posted 28 July 2019 - 09:25 AM

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powercreep hasn't reached tier 6 yet

 

Tier 7 has some high alpha tonks



ziratulbihac #8 Posted 28 July 2019 - 09:27 AM

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View Postmalachi6, on 28 July 2019 - 08:24 AM, said:

Your asserting that you only ever face tier 8's and always against Defenders etc, is demonstrably false; given how the MM works and the numbers of differing tier 8 tanks people play.  It may feel like you are always bottom tier but the MM is designed to prevent that from happening. It may feel like it is, that is just confirmation bias.

Last night from 12 AM to 2 AM 6 vs 8 only (every game). 

 

Should have played in the morning when small kids play their tier 5s


Edited by ziratulbihac, 28 July 2019 - 09:28 AM.


malachi6 #9 Posted 28 July 2019 - 09:35 AM

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View Postziratulbihac, on 28 July 2019 - 09:27 AM, said:

Last night from 12 AM to 2 AM 6 vs 8 only (every game). 

 

Should have played in the morning when small kids play their tier 5s

 

Playing when the server is low population is hardly an example of always.

 

Asserting that small kids play tier 5's is an argument from ignorance.



Alukat123 #10 Posted 28 July 2019 - 09:37 AM

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rule#1 for 3-5-7 matches with Tier 8 as top tier:

the team with more defenders/TS-5s usually wins.

 

problem isn't tier 6 vs. tier 8 per se, problem is the armor of defender and the other "new" tanks is just way too strong for tier 8.


Edited by Alukat123, 28 July 2019 - 09:41 AM.


ziratulbihac #11 Posted 28 July 2019 - 09:41 AM

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View Postmalachi6, on 28 July 2019 - 08:35 AM, said:

 

Playing when the server is low population is hardly an example of always.

 

Asserting that small kids play tier 5's is an argument from ignorance.

 

It was a joke... do you take everything literally? 



Spurtung #12 Posted 28 July 2019 - 09:45 AM

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View Postziratulbihac, on 28 July 2019 - 08:41 AM, said:

 

It was a joke... do you take everything literally? 

 

I don't know, do you always post like a hysterical feminist vegan?



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View Postziratulbihac, on 28 July 2019 - 09:41 AM, said:

 

It was a joke... do you take everything literally? 

 

Given my telepathy hat is broken and your statements appear to attempt to support your initial argument.  In this instance, yes.



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kv2 says so?:trollface:

splash_time #15 Posted 28 July 2019 - 10:07 AM

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In my opinion, WG should form battles of the same tier, tier 7 vs tier 7, 8 vs 8 and etc.

Imagine a top tier tank which is stock, what can that guy do? But if a stock tank is in team of same tiers, then at least he/she will have a chance to pen other tanks, or each tank will be supported by it's own team!.

I never liked the idea of top tier or low tier in a team, even with my tier 10s. 

P.s: i know it may be hard thing to do, i mean this kind of MMs or battles, but at least they worth a try.


Edited by splash_time, 28 July 2019 - 10:09 AM.


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View Postvasilinhorulezz, on 28 July 2019 - 09:20 AM, said:

I play a lot of tier VIII, and believe me, the times I meet tier VI are more rare than the white rhinoceros . But yea, tier VI and VII mm are pretty bad atm.

I'd dare say that tier VII has the worse MM of the two.

For the most part, tier 7 tanks are just an underpowered tier afaik.

The increase in power they have over tier 6 simply doesn't weigh up against the power difference between them and tier 8/9 tanks.

Tier 6: Cromwell. 145mm penetration, 76mm armour.

Tier 7: Comet. 148mm penetration, 101mm armour.

Tier 8: Centurion Mk 1. 226mm penetration, ¡254mm armour!

 

And the chances for a comet to meet a centurion are much greater than that of a cromwell.



ValkyrionX #17 Posted 28 July 2019 - 10:46 AM

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I agree with the issue of lower tiers against higher tiers, yesterday  I played a few games in platoon with my girlfriend who rarely plays wot and of course she only have low tier tanks up to tier 6 and only one tier 9.

I personally rarely play games under tier 8, the problem in my opinion is not in the MM but in overall the performance of the lower tiers compared to the higher tiers.
Indecent guns and too few HP cannot guarantee that you can deal with tanks even of two higher levels and in substance you are bullied and your role only becomes that of mere support, making the game in my opinion unpleasant.


WG have to give an HP and gun handling/penetration buff to all the tanks under the tier 7.

I believe that a general improvement of 15-20% is absolutely sensible


Edited by ValkyrionX, 28 July 2019 - 10:48 AM.


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View Postziratulbihac, on 28 July 2019 - 09:18 AM, said:

I already had my friend quit cause he did not want to play with his stock t-34-85 against defender, superpershing, is3 IN EVERY GAME!!!!!!

100 pen 100 dmg against defender? 

 

At least reward them with EXP so they can skip that horror easily. 

 

Literally every game in Tier 6 was against Tier 8.

 

It is not playable at all. 

 

It is absolutely unfair. 

 

Tier 8 CAN play against Tier 10

Tier 7 CAN play against tier 9

 

But tier 6 CAN NOT play against tier 8!

 

Dicker Max, SU-100 and Hellcat would like to disagree.

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View Postziratulbihac, on 28 July 2019 - 09:22 AM, said:

 

t6 vs t8 will ruin the game...

 

New Players won't tolerate that [edited]. 

 

I will..cause I know that 8 and 10 are competitive and I would wait... but new players will just uninstall the game. 

 

Yeah, that'll happen, for sure.  </sarcasm>



JocMeister #19 Posted 28 July 2019 - 11:03 AM

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View Postziratulbihac, on 28 July 2019 - 09:18 AM, said:

Tier 8 CAN play against Tier 10

Tier 7 CAN play against tier 9

 

But tier 6 CAN NOT play against tier 8!

 

I suggest you play a few more games before trying to draw conclusions like that. It will make you look a lot less silly. :)



AzoreanOutkast #20 Posted 28 July 2019 - 11:19 AM

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1st thing 1st...

 

Its a common believe from WOT players and said for years that MM should be +1 and -1 only, not +2 and -2, so you arent saying anything new.

 

2nd...

 

Tier 6 vs tier 8 can be a pain, yes, but that is part of the game and its not gonna chance in the near future, so only way to go its to improve your gaming, by actually learning to kill the higher tiers tanks, and avoid playing the bad tanks in the tier you are, its the only way to suceed, or have a ton of luck in the MM and RNG u get, wich sometimes happens, but majority doesnt.

 

So let me tell you this, i play this game now less than before cause i dont like the direction its taking but i mainly play tiers 6 and 8, that is where most of my tanks are, and most are... Premiums! (yup, dont care, call me all u want)

 

So i have no problem at all to take a T-34-85M, a Pudel, even a AC4 vs tier 8s, its just a challenge and a way to get more experience and credits, cause the damage u do to a higher tier tank rewards you more than to take out a same tier tank.

Those big tanks, like the Defender (i have it from last xmas boxes), are just hype and lack of knowledge from the players that face them that makes them so "formidable" ingame, when you are in one of those vs a decent team (u dont need more than 2 or 3 players to play as a team to beat it hands down even with shitty tanks), u just need to know the limitations of your tank and the ups of it and use them to your advantage, all tanks have weakspots u can explore and not all players in those hype tanks know how to properly use them, in fact, most that are using them are mediocre players that like sealclubbing and lack understanding of the game, so a decent player can take them out without much problems.

 

I love playing my tier 6s vs tier 8s and my tier 8s vs tier 9s and 10s... Best games are those, even if i die or lose the payout is always good.

 

Now, go to youtube there is alot of non-BS videos out there that gives you all u need to know on how to be good at the tank you are using, and also how to take out the adversaries that u normally face, with that you will improve your stats.

Just keep in mind that this game has bad MM and bad RNG and those no matter the skill u got some games will bit you in the arse, no matter how good you play and you will do fine!

 

Main aspect to getting credits and XP in this game is to do damage, especially to higher tier tanks than your own, winning or losing is second to that, if you go in this mindset to battle you will do ok.

 

PS- Game mechanics are set in the way they are to make you feel the need to increase your tier and spend money to improve in the game, its set so that you lose and draw the conclusion that a bigger tier tank will make you win, and when you get there you just find out that u need an even bigger one, till you get to tier X and you are in the top, but even then, games sometimes sux. So dont rush, stick to what u know and dont be in a hurry to go up a tier, that wont solve anything, knowledge is the key to sucess in the game, that and having a decent tank, wich sadly takes you to the premium shop and the need to buy a decent tank from there... (also part of the game)


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