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arthurwellsley #1 Posted 31 July 2019 - 03:27 PM

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The top server clans from Fire Trail fought to create a server champion.

Now EU champion will fight NA champion and the winning clan will fight RU winning clan.

But note the rule announcement;

The match in a nutshell

  • [DE-VI] (EU) versus [MAHOU] (NA)
  • Match start: 3 August, 20:00 CEST
  • Format: 15 vs. 15, reward tanks are not allowed, Best of 9 (five victories required to win)
  • Prizes:
    • Winner: 50,000 for the clan treasury
    • Loser: 35,000 for the clan treasury

 

 

Fire Trail was dominated by T95/FV4201 Chieftain and Object 907 (with a side order of Object 260 and 279e). But the clan champions are not being allowed to use reward tanks.

 

Does this indicate that in the next CW campaign "reward tanks are not allowed"?

 

Source = https://worldoftanks...naeu-showmatch/


Edited by arthurwellsley, 31 July 2019 - 03:27 PM.


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View Postarthurwellsley, on 31 July 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

Does this indicate that in the next CW campaign "reward tanks are not allowed"?

 

I'm sure both clans have all the tanks, so I wonder.

 

Personally, I'd have no problem with that (and I assume they'll block the 260 and 279e as well?).

 

Cent/907/260 would become S Conq/140/5A/277 and we'd carry on as before.



ValkyrionX #3 Posted 31 July 2019 - 03:33 PM

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honestly it changes really little ..


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makes no sense, they should ban reward tanks from Randoms, not competitions.

 

What's the point?



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Well, if they are truly problematic, nerf them to acceptable levels instead of banning them from competitive modes.

 

We already have had T6 and T8 clan wars ruined by broken/overpowered premium tanks outperforming free tanks (so the mode is literally pay-2-win now at those tiers).

 

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arthurwellsley #6 Posted 31 July 2019 - 03:38 PM

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View PostValkyrionX, on 31 July 2019 - 02:33 PM, said:

honestly it changes really little ..

 

I disagree. I do agree with Long_Range_Sniper. The tech tree tanks will be used exclusively in these battles.

 

T95/FV4201, Object 907, Object 260 and Object 279e are owned by a minority.

 

What will be used are SuperConq, Object 140, WZ111 5A, and Object 277. All of which can all be obtained by all players.


Edited by arthurwellsley, 31 July 2019 - 03:40 PM.


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View Postarthurwellsley, on 31 July 2019 - 03:38 PM, said:

 

I disagree. I do agree with Long_Range_Sniper. The tech tree tanks will be used exclusively in these battles.

 

T95/FV4201, Object 907, Object 260 and Object 279e are owned by a minority.

 

What will be used are SuperConq, Object 140, WZ111 5A, and Object 277. All of which can all be obtained by all players.

 

say that in the cw, and in all the other game modes related to the clan activities, the reward tanks are not a problem is obviously a lie

 

And not being a liar I don't say that they are not a problem, but to eliminate them completely I find it wrong , otherwise it doesn't even make sense that they are prize tanks won in the cw.

 

They should be limited in their total number on a team of 15 players, and not removed altogether.

 

In a team of 15 to be able to enter a maximum of 5 reward tanks would make a lot of sense, the other 10 only tanks from tech tress

 

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it would be interesting to apply similar solutions to tiers 8, which are currently even more pathetic to play in clan activities with a constant invasion of premium tanks such as ebr, progetto, defender , wz ft etc etc


Edited by ValkyrionX, 31 July 2019 - 03:52 PM.


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It's interesting, whether this signifies a change of policy I don't know, it might just be a one off for PR reasons as very little CW is shown on twitch and WOT e-sports is pretty much dead, so maybe they just don't want this game dominated by tanks that most people can't get, if they are looking at this from an advertising the game sort of stand point.

 

Honestly as someone who doesn't have 279e, T95/FV4201 or 907 I'd be fine with this. 



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View PostValkyrionX, on 31 July 2019 - 02:43 PM, said:

 

say that in the cw, and in all the other game modes related to the clan activities, the reward tanks are not a problem is obviously a lie

 

And not being a liar I don't say that they are not a problem, but to eliminate them completely I find it wrong , otherwise it doesn't even make sense that they are prize tanks won in the cw.

 

They should be limited in their total number on a team of 15 players, and not removed altogether.

 

In a team of 15 to be able to enter a maximum of 5 reward tanks would make a lot of sense, the other 10 only tanks from tech tress

 

Interesting solution.

 

But WG seem to have gone for "reward tanks are not allowed".

Once that rule is implemented for one CW, won't they try and be consistent and use that rule for all CW?

Isn't it a bit late now for WG to say only five from the fifteen tanks may be reward tanks?

Surely now they have gone down the path of "reward tanks are not allowed" for one CW they are stuck with it?



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View Postarthurwellsley, on 31 July 2019 - 03:50 PM, said:

 

Interesting solution.

 

But WG seem to have gone for "reward tanks are not allowed".

Once that rule is implemented for one CW, won't they try and be consistent and use that rule for all CW?

Isn't it a bit late now for WG to say only five from the fifteen tanks may be reward tanks?

Surely now they have gone down the path of "reward tanks are not allowed" for one CW they are stuck with it?

 

obviously it's a test, like many things going on in the game, to get data and feedback from the forums

 

to have concrete data on the future rules we must wait for the future campaign that I believe will take place in January, shortly after Christmas holidays.



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View PostValkyrionX, on 31 July 2019 - 02:54 PM, said:

 

obviously it's a test, like many things going on in the game, to get data and feedback from the forums

 

to have concrete data on the future rules we must wait for the future campaign that I believe will take place in January, shortly after Christmas holidays.

 

What makes you think the next CW campaign will be in January 2020?

I recall a campaign in January 2019 is that what you are guessing on (limit of two per year)?

Any reason you are assuming no campaign in Autumn 2019?



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View Postarthurwellsley, on 31 July 2019 - 03:58 PM, said:

 

What makes you think the next CW campaign will be in January 2020?

I recall a campaign in January 2019 is that what you are guessing on (limit of two per year)?

Any reason you are assuming no campaign in Autumn 2019?

 

if I'm not mistaken in the last two years, the campaigns took place in January and Spring so I think I can assume that the next one is in January 2020



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I suspect to many complained about them in general, or that there are too many of them in those events. People complain about them in Randoms too. But there half the enemy team is not full of 907's. But for all we know, this might be the first step in nerfing them. And this is just a temp solution until they can. Or... it's a permanent solution so they won't have to nerf them.



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It does seem strange to allow such vehicles in the Qualifying Rounds (Quarters, Semis, Finals), but not in the subsequent event.

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 31 July 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

Does this indicate that in the next CW campaign "reward tanks are not allowed"?

 

 

Banning these tanks from the Basic Front would be a good idea but less important for the Advanced and Elite.

 

I think the reason they've banned them from this tournament is because of the viewing spectacle.

The punters watching will enjoy it more if they use tanks that we all have in our garages ... Oooo look, they've taken a TVP 50/51 and they sent it "there".  Look where they put the bobject, etc.

 

Who cares where they send their 279e.  None of use have one so it doesn't matter.



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View PostCobra6, on 31 July 2019 - 03:37 PM, said:

Well, if they are truly problematic, nerf them to acceptable levels instead of banning them from competitive modes.

 

We already have had T6 and T8 clan wars ruined by broken/overpowered premium tanks outperforming free tanks (so the mode is literally pay-2-win now at those tiers).

 

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Well tier 8 is great fun. I love having no other option than playing my stupid progetto over and over until I'm bored to death with it because I don't feel like pulling my credit card every time WG decides to release a new flavour of the month "balanced" premium.

 

In all seriousness though, yes, they should just balance the reward vehicles properly. They don't have to be bad. But they should not outperform their tech-tree counterparts as much as they do now. Just give them something special, something unique. Well before they were broken/OP people wanted them and were willing to play their asses off for them, if only as a status symbol.



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They should ban reward tanks from CW events. It's meant to be a test of Clan skill not who has the most 279/907s on call.

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 31 July 2019 - 03:38 PM, said:

 

I disagree. I do agree with Long_Range_Sniper. The tech tree tanks will be used exclusively in these battles.

 

T95/FV4201, Object 907, Object 260 and Object 279e are owned by a minority.

 

What will be used are SuperConq, Object 140, WZ111 5A, and Object 277. All of which can all be obtained by all players.


IT will change things but no that much. There are the counterpart out there to the reward tanks which most of the time do EXACTLY the same thing like the reward tanks do with one difference. They are worse. Sometimes a tiny bit, sometimes quit a bit.

 

Only the Obj. 279e and Chieftain will change the meta. Both dont really have counterparts. While one could argue that the SC is the counterpart to the chieftain, thats not true. The speed of the chieftain makes it so good. Even though on a lot of maps the SC will still replace the chieftain, on certain maps you will most certainly see tactic adjustments.

 

The 260 will be replaced by the 277 or 5a, the 907 by 140. Non of the other reward tanks are used anyway.



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View Postpecopad, on 31 July 2019 - 02:36 PM, said:

makes no sense, they should ban reward tanks from Randoms, not competitions.

 

What's the point?

 

This.

 

OP tanks from and for a try hard mode is legit, but to let those tanks in hands of the best players in platoons with full everything in random should be forbidden.



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View Postkaneloon, on 31 July 2019 - 06:21 PM, said:

 

This.

 

OP tanks from and for a try hard mode is legit, but to let those tanks in hands of the best players in platoons with full everything in random should be forbidden.


Why?

 

They could just make them balanced. There is literally no reason to make them OP.







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