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TheNightFox #1 Posted 31 July 2019 - 03:28 PM

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So WG banns reward tanks in high level competitive matches. Why? Are those tanks affecting the game balance? If so, shouldn't they be nerfed, or at least banned in all competitive game modes (Stronghold, CW, Ranked)?

There is a recent thread in which people argue whether T95/FV4201 Chieftain is OP or not. Meanwhile WG kind of acknowledges that this tank and his like ARE a problem. The irony :)

 

PS: I would like to point out that atm I don't own any of this tanks. I have less than 10k battles. I'm confident that I will own some of them IF I keep playing. Question is, for people that do own them, are you playing this tanks exclusively? If so, don't you think it gets boring playing 1-3 tanks over and over again? If you do play your other tanks, don't you feel like the underdog when facing a fella that's playing them? The problems of the 21st century guy, WoT gamer..

In my opinion NOT having OP tanks is better, because you can play any of your hard earned T10 tanks without worrying about being the underdog.


Edited by TheNightFox, 31 July 2019 - 03:34 PM.


Fibonachi #2 Posted 31 July 2019 - 03:32 PM

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I don't think there's much to argue about. Half the reward tanks are just better versions of the existing tier X tanks. Much like tier VIII premiums are.

 

WG's solution is usually to limit the number of such tanks ("no more selling of E25/Defender, we promise *wink-wink* ''. With reward tanks it's even easier, because those are even rarer. So they just unofficially state the obvious "X tank is OP'' and do nothing.

 

Edit: I dare you to try to write a *," and a ) without the forum making it into a smily face.


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They should ban them from randoms, I don't care about how they are used in competitions.

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View PostFibonachi, on 31 July 2019 - 02:32 PM, said:

I don't think there's much to argue about. Half the reward tanks are just better versions of the existing tier X tanks. Much like tier VIII premiums are.

 

 

Oddly enough the T8 CW reward tanks are universally worse then their free counterparts.

 

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TheNightFox #5 Posted 31 July 2019 - 03:36 PM

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View PostFibonachi, on 31 July 2019 - 03:32 PM, said:

I don't think there's much to argue about. Half the reward tanks are just better versions of the existing tier X tanks. Much like tier VIII premiums are.

 

WG's solution is usually to limit the number of such tanks ("no more selling of E25/Defender, we promise *wink-wink* ''. With reward tanks it's even easier, because those are even rarer. So they just unofficially state the obvious "X tank is OP'' and do nothing.

Well, it gets people to lose interest in the game, in my opinion. I'm starting to lose interest in T10 because of it. And you know that T10 is generating money, not T5.

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View PostCobra6, on 31 July 2019 - 03:35 PM, said:

 

Oddly enough the T8 CW reward tanks are universally worse then their free counterparts.

 

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That might be true. But I'm concentrating a bit here on T10, because myself, as many gamers do, evaluate the endgame potential fun in order to asses whether it's worth the investment.



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View PostCobra6, on 31 July 2019 - 03:35 PM, said:

 

Oddly enough the T8 CW reward tanks are universally worse then their free counterparts.

 

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Can't really expect us to pay 50+ bucks for a tank that's not the very best on it's tier. And if you are not making reward tanks OP, you might as well make them trash.


Edited by Fibonachi, 31 July 2019 - 03:39 PM.


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View Postpecopad, on 31 July 2019 - 03:34 PM, said:

They should ban them from randoms, I don't care about how they are used in competitions.

 

bad stuff being envious 

 



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View PostTheNightFox, on 31 July 2019 - 02:28 PM, said:

So WG banns reward tanks in high level competitive matches.

 

They did? Did I miss those news, or...?



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Don't ban them. Just put them in tech tree. 1 million xp to unlock or 20mil credits to buy or something. Why are half of the tanks in this game locked for a casual player.

 

Imagine ANY other multiplayer shooter. Oh, you are not in a great clan and/or paying real money? Half the guns are locked to you.  



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View PostSpurtung, on 31 July 2019 - 02:43 PM, said:

 

They did? Did I miss those news, or...?

 

+1, what's going on?  What tanks have been banned from doing what?



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View PostFibonachi, on 31 July 2019 - 03:43 PM, said:

Don't ban them. Just put them in tech tree. 1 million xp to unlock or 20mil credits to buy or something. Why are half of the tanks in this game locked for a casual player.

 

Imagine ANY other multiplayer shooter. Oh, you are not in a great clan and/or paying real money? Half the guns are locked to you.  

 

no need to be in a top clan to win a reward tier X tank , imagine if the wg put them in the tech tree, someone will hack the server after 10 minutes

 

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Edited by Daxeno, 31 July 2019 - 04:11 PM.
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If_I_Die_You_Die_Too #12 Posted 31 July 2019 - 03:51 PM

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WG's solution is usually to limit the number of such tanks ("no more selling of E25/Defender, we promise *wink-wink* ''

 

A Defender is very often toast in Frontline, a HP pinata to feast upon, yum

 

It has its place in Random Corridor Tanks, but struggles bigtime on a proper map



TheNightFox #13 Posted 31 July 2019 - 03:52 PM

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View PostSpurtung, on 31 July 2019 - 03:43 PM, said:

 

They did? Did I miss those news, or...?

Yep. They banned them from inter-region clan matches



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View PostKozzy, on 31 July 2019 - 03:45 PM, said:

 

+1, what's going on?  What tanks have been banned from doing what?


Reward tanks are not allowed it the upcoming Clan Rivals finals between DE-VI (EU) and MAHOU (NA). This could be WG decision or something they discussed with both clans, but whatever the reason is, it will make it more interesting to watch.



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View PostFibonachi, on 31 July 2019 - 03:37 PM, said:

Can't really expect us to pay 50+ bucks for a tank that's not the very best on it's tier. And if you are not making reward tanks OP, you might as well make them trash.

Do you pay for your reward tanks? That's illegal, you know.

And I don't agree about rewards having to be OP. They just have to be different and fun, like Chimera is. As I argued above, OP tanks ruin balance, which in turn degrades the gaming experience as a whole.



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View PostValkyrionX, on 31 July 2019 - 03:49 PM, said:

no need to be in a top clan to win a reward tier X tank , imagine if the wg put them in the tech tree, someone will hack the server after 10 minutes, 

 

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I've read you comment 10 times, thought 10 times and still can't understand you.

 

Someone will hack the server after 10 minutes, if WG lets people unlock all the tier X tanks? 

 

Surprise, surprise, you have pretty much all the OP tier X rewards. Can't imagine why you don't want the regular folks driving in those.

 

View PostTheNightFox, on 31 July 2019 - 03:54 PM, said:

Do you pay for your reward tanks? That's illegal, you know.

And I don't agree about rewards having to be OP. They just have to be different and fun, like Chimera is. As I argued above, OP tanks ruin balance, which in turn degrades the gaming experience as a whole.

That was an answer to Cobra6's comment about trash tier VIII rewards. I said that noone would pay 50 bucks for a premium tank (tier VIII) that's not the best on the tier. You'd just buy a 20 euro one.

 

View PostIf_I_Die_You_Die_Too, on 31 July 2019 - 03:51 PM, said:

A Defender is very often toast in Frontline, a HP pinata to feast upon, yum

 

It has its place in Random Corridor Tanks, but struggles bigtime on a proper map

Let's not turn this topic into Defender OP vs Defender is trash. Just meant to say expesive premium tanks that are better than most tech tree / reward tanks on the tier and Defender just rolls off the tongue. Imagine I said any other premium tank you find OP.



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*edited*

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*edited* 

 

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View PostFibonachi, on 31 July 2019 - 02:43 PM, said:

Don't ban them. Just put them in tech tree. 1 million xp to unlock or 20mil credits to buy or something. Why are half of the tanks in this game locked for a casual player.

 

Imagine ANY other multiplayer shooter. Oh, you are not in a great clan and/or paying real money? Half the guns are locked to you.  

 

"Half".

 

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.



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View PostValkyrionX, on 31 July 2019 - 04:04 PM, said:

 

I'm sorry, you got messed up, my interest in statistics is very relative , otherwise I would have reset the account like many others do, I'm interested in tanks.

 

My comment arises from the fact that asking to ban the reward tanks from the random is the most idiotic thing ever read on the forum .. then remove them from the game, right?


Even worse, read that the wg should make cw vehicles available to everyone by putting them in the tech trees.

 

I bet you wouldnt be so bothered if these tanks werent so broken/op af ?






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