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2ndLuck_ #1 Posted 02 August 2019 - 11:33 PM

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Guys what do you thinking about for that World of artys ? 

-> Usually playing with 3 SPG  when we was playing random do you know that ?

-> And someones saying arty was nerfed ? Are you serriusly ? We was playing with Heavy,med,tankdestroyer or orthers doenst metter. We are taking more dmg. One  Obj.261 arty reloading in 27sec. and hitting 500-600 dmg to E100 or IS-7 or Russian Med. and that is not enouht  we need +1 thing... 20 sec Stune time.. LOOOOOOL   arty is reloading 27sec and we are stunned  20 sec. yea we can do everythink in 7 sec xD   and other arty shooting every in34-40 sec and stuning 20-25 sec. that is soo fair. and that is 1 arty. and we are playing with 3 arty in 1 battle. Do you see that BİİİİİİİİİG problem ? BTW Chance that MM. or Arty mechanic.

-> Guys somethinks isnt wrong ? Pls write here. Need chanceing something in that game. 

 

EDİT: Sorry my bad english. I'm pissed that wrong MM. and Arty damages.


Edited by 2ndLuck_, 03 August 2019 - 12:30 AM.


Wintermute_1 #2 Posted 02 August 2019 - 11:39 PM

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I play Obj 261. Show me the replay of the hit on an E100 doing 500-600 dmg. Thx.

_zzzz_ #3 Posted 02 August 2019 - 11:50 PM

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http://forum.worldof...cussion-thread/

Nitro_Tank #4 Posted 02 August 2019 - 11:56 PM

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I love having arty in the game, especially as a light tank. Sometimes games just don't move forward and my spotting goes to waste without it, its an excellent siege breaker. 3 arties in each team is just too much to enjoy, reduce it to two and im cool with it.

MeetriX #5 Posted 03 August 2019 - 12:24 AM

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View PostWintermute_1, on 02 August 2019 - 11:39 PM, said:

I play Obj 261. Show me the replay of the hit on an E100 doing 500-600 dmg. Thx.

Or any tank.



FrantisekBascovansky #6 Posted 03 August 2019 - 12:31 AM

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View Post2ndLuck_, on 02 August 2019 - 11:33 PM, said:

We are taking more dmg. One  Obj.261 arty reloading in 27sec. and hitting 500-600 dmg to E100 or IS-7 or Russian Med.

 

more likely 50-60



2ndLuck_ #7 Posted 03 August 2019 - 12:32 AM

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View Post_zzzz_, on 02 August 2019 - 11:50 PM, said:

Ty

 



Bulldog_Drummond #8 Posted 03 August 2019 - 12:36 AM

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How refreshing to see an arty whine thread.  

 

I don't believe we have ever had one of those before.



Gremlin182 #9 Posted 03 August 2019 - 12:54 AM

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View Post2ndLuck_, on 02 August 2019 - 11:33 PM, said:

Guys what do you thinking about for that World of artys ? 

-> Usually playing with 3 SPG  when we was playing random do you know that ?

-> And someones saying arty was nerfed ? Are you serriusly ? We was playing with Heavy,med,tankdestroyer or orthers doenst metter. We are taking more dmg. One  Obj.261 arty reloading in 27sec. and hitting 500-600 dmg to E100 or IS-7 or Russian Med. and that is not enouht  we need +1 thing... 20 sec Stune time.. LOOOOOOL   arty is reloading 27sec and we are stunned  20 sec. yea we can do everythink in 7 sec xD   and other arty shooting every in34-40 sec and stuning 20-25 sec. that is soo fair. and that is 1 arty. and we are playing with 3 arty in 1 battle. Do you see that BİİİİİİİİİG problem ? BTW Chance that MM. or Arty mechanic.

-> Guys somethinks isnt wrong ? Pls write here. Need chanceing something in that game. 

 

EDİT: Sorry my bad english. I'm pissed that wrong MM. and Arty damages.


Yes its annoying but it does not happen every game.

There isn't 3 arty every game its 0 1 2 or 3.

When there are 3 arty and the arty are top tier then it can be bad.

 

Arty was nerfed and not just nerfed a little we are talking a major nerf. 50% damage reduction 50% penetration reduction.

That's a drastic reduction, lets take the E100, currently it has 246 pen 750 damage.

Lets make that 123 pen and 375 damage, can you imagine the reaction and not just the E100 lets do that to every heavy tank in the game.

 

They gained Stun ok so your crew is now operating at if I remember correctly 75% efficiency for a short time.

If you have a large med kit the passive effect reduces stun duration by 5% and a spal liner by a further 10%.

I would definitely consider a spal liner on the superheavies.

Use the med kit and stun is removed instantly 90 seconds later you can use it again.

 

Thats another thing that came with the addition of stun multi use repair med and fire extinguishers.

You may get stunned several times in a battle but you are not dead one shotted as often happened before the nerf and you never need to play with damaged modules or dead crew because they can always be fixed.

 

I do think the increase in splash radius wasn't needed other than that facing arty is better now its less effective and we have defenses.

I do wish they would add a medic skill and a medic equivalent of the toolbox so if players choose they can run their tanks set up for best defense.

 



Wintermute_1 #10 Posted 03 August 2019 - 01:02 AM

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View PostMeetriX, on 03 August 2019 - 12:24 AM, said:

Or any tank.


An Obj 261 would have to pen an E100 to do that damage, which basically means hitting it on the roof at a near 90 degree angle with an above average pen roll. Given the Obj 261 has one of the shallowest shell arcs of any arty its impossible to pen an E100 unless its on its side or running near vertically down an incline. About the only reliable way of doing 500 - 600 damage to an E100 in an Obj 261 is throwing yourself off a bridge and trying to land on top of it …. 



MeetriX #11 Posted 03 August 2019 - 01:19 AM

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View PostWintermute_1, on 03 August 2019 - 01:02 AM, said:


An Obj 261 would have to pen an E100 to do that damage, which basically means hitting it on the roof at a near 90 degree angle with an above average pen roll. Given the Obj 261 has one of the shallowest shell arcs of any arty its impossible to pen an E100 unless its on its side or running near vertically down an incline. About the only reliable way of doing 500 - 600 damage to an E100 in an Obj 261 is throwing yourself off a bridge and trying to land on top of it …. 

675 is the min roll if it pen.

500-600 is not possible.

562.5 is the max possible none pen hit if there is a possible to not pen 0mm armor.



uselessoldman #12 Posted 03 August 2019 - 01:37 AM

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Yes arty is annoying WE are supposed to be annoying but we also serve a purpose - to help YOU, our team WIN !! Stop exaggerating about the damage we can do, we thickly you unless you are in a lightly armoured tank then yes we can hurt, sometimes a lot, but only the same as a TD or Heavy and its your own fault for giving us an open clear shot.

 

Good players know how to protect themselves, yes they too can make mistakes, but for those of us who do play arty, it is not as easy as some might think !!



Wintermute_1 #13 Posted 03 August 2019 - 02:46 AM

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View PostMeetriX, on 03 August 2019 - 01:19 AM, said:

675 is the min roll if it pen.

500-600 is not possible.

562.5 is the max possible none pen hit if there is a possible to not pen 0mm armor.

All I know is I'd expect sub 200 dmg firing at an E100 and be thrilled with 250.



Leepants #14 Posted 03 August 2019 - 03:11 AM

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I'm only playing arty this (drunken) evening. And having a lot of fun :)

Dorander #15 Posted 03 August 2019 - 05:13 AM

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1: No we don't because it isn't the case, 3 arty only accounts for about 10% of the battles.

2: Yes it was, it used to have higher damage. It's not a vague claim, it's a simple fact, look up the patchnotes.

3: The only thing that's wrong is that people keep creating these threads and actually think they're stating something new and useful while in reality it's neither.



spamhamstar #16 Posted 03 August 2019 - 07:05 AM

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View PostDorander, on 03 August 2019 - 04:13 AM, said:

1: No we don't because it isn't the case, 3 arty only accounts for about 10% of the battles.

2: Yes it was, it used to have higher damage. It's not a vague claim, it's a simple fact, look up the patchnotes.

3: The only thing that's wrong is that people keep creating these threads and actually think they're stating something new and useful while in reality it's neither.

 

1. Source?

2. Are you sure?  Does reducing HE damage & pen while decreasing reload, increasing accuracy & splash damage, while introducing stun really amount to a nerf or reduced overall damage?  Not so simple maybe..

3. Yet 14 of us have aleady replied to this old & useless topic.  Yes it belongs in the sticky arty thread because the mods say so, but if the OP had posted there, the mods would see nothing wrong with this post & why shouldn't he have his say, seeing as everyone else & their dog already have?  Anyway, I notice someone else has also created a new arty whine thread this morning so maybe you should get in there as well with your amateur moderation.



fwhaatpiraat #17 Posted 03 August 2019 - 07:18 AM

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View PostWintermute_1, on 03 August 2019 - 02:46 AM, said:

All I know is I'd expect sub 200 dmg firing at an E100 and be thrilled with 250.

The Jagdpz E100 usually takes way more splash damage because the engine deck either gets hit or splashed.



Fizzymagic #18 Posted 03 August 2019 - 08:33 AM

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I quite like a bit of arty, helps me relax after a losing streak, of which i have many!

 

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G_Bg_82 #19 Posted 03 August 2019 - 09:14 AM

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Hi players,

 

the OP is new here and doesn't know that every discussion about the SPG's should be posted in the main thread The Big SPG Discussion Thread. For this reason this topic is been locked.

 

Have a nice day !

 

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