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hasnainrakha57 #1 Posted 05 August 2019 - 09:41 PM

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I think old premium tanks should be buffed that are power crept by newer ones kinda feel that you are forced to spend money to get the newer ones that are in Meta.Here are few that I think need to be buffed u also add yours

 

1)T34

2)T26e4

3)fv4202

4)Panther 8.8


Edited by hasnainrakha57, 05 August 2019 - 09:41 PM.


7thSyndicate #2 Posted 05 August 2019 - 09:56 PM

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is-5

is-6

kv-4 K.

CDC

wz 111

T-34

 

This is my t8 prem trash list

 



FrantisekBascovansky #3 Posted 05 August 2019 - 10:05 PM

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Matilda Black Prince - this joke of a tank can't even reach the battlefied before it's over

 



Spartan_93 #4 Posted 05 August 2019 - 10:15 PM

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View PostFrantisekBascovansky, on 05 August 2019 - 09:05 PM, said:

Matilda Black Prince - this joke of a tank can't even reach the battlefied before it's over

 

 

Mathilda BP is really nice, but Mathilda IV? 87mm pen and 102mm with premium at T5?

 

Or AC1 Sentinel even worse.



Negativvv #5 Posted 05 August 2019 - 10:16 PM

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Didn't number 2 already get buffed?

Yaccay #6 Posted 05 August 2019 - 10:16 PM

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There is no money in buffing already sold (old) premium tanks.

On the other hand new premium tanks means profit.

 

Conclusion: Do not expect buffing old premium tanks. expect new and better premium tanks.



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View PostSpartan_93, on 05 August 2019 - 10:15 PM, said:

 

Mathilda BP is really nice, but Mathilda IV? 87mm pen and 102mm with premium at T5?

 

Or AC1 Sentinel even worse.

 

I have Matilda IV in my garage too, but never played it yet. And I have no plans to change it. Same goes for M4 Impotent.



Xandania #8 Posted 05 August 2019 - 11:43 PM

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I'd call all the matildas ingame quite adequate - alas I agree with many of the old tier 8 ones.

While I think the pref-mm tonks are alright they might need a little extra to combat the powercreep, the main target for a buff should be the CDC - while sometimes there are great players in that tank, I guess they'd be even more devastating in others - so maybe a bit better gunhandling and ground resistances might do the trick ^^



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View Posthasnainrakha57, on 05 August 2019 - 09:41 PM, said:

I think old premium tanks should be buffed that are power crept by newer ones kinda feel that you are forced to spend money to get the newer ones that are in Meta.Here are few that I think need to be buffed u also add yours

 

1)T34

2)T26e4

3)fv4202

4)Panther 8.8


T34 and T26e4 don't need a buff, they are powerful as is, the big difference is they do not meet T10 tanks, while all of the new T8 prems do meet T10

 


Edited by Thlurp, 06 August 2019 - 07:18 AM.


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View PostThlurp, on 06 August 2019 - 07:18 AM, said:


T34 and T26e4 don't need a buff, they are powerful as is, the big difference is they do not meet T10 tanks, while all of the new T8 prems do meet T10

 

First I've heard of the T34 having Pref MM... It might be good if it did :hiding:



falcon_96 #11 Posted 06 August 2019 - 08:11 AM

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CDC- When released it had SPEEEED! And that in concert with high(back then) pen for a medium was its selling point, for those advantages it paid with huge size, pathetic gun handling and a secondary layer of armor made entirely out of ammo racks, not to mention the arty oneshotability.
Now, it is still penable by arty, which is faster firing and more accurate(oh and ofc you eat max stun duration and multiple internal crits in addition to full pig dmg), the gun handling severely hampers it in its role of ridge/corner poking support med, oh and obviously every wheelie/Blackdog out there will just switch to HE and solo the CDC with no problem at all.

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Personally id say if there are T8 premiums that need a buff it would above all be CDC and panther 88, then chieftain, M46 korea, kv-4, is-5, kanonenjp and amx cda. Only then something like T34, and i certainly wouldnt buff t26e4, FV is just about the everage T8 medium (T8 mediums suck anyway overall, so it would use a buff along with 90% of all other t8 meds).

 

I was actually recently thinking about CDC and how it could be buffed. I guess initially what it was supposed to be was a medium tank with great mobility that would be a sort of medium-TD hybrid - fast to get somewhere and once stationary it would have a great gun with good pen. Well, these days there are mediums that are better at that and then on top of that better at everything else too.

 

So to restore its initial strengths I suppose it could simply use unnerfing of the awful terrain resistances so that it actually moves like it should. Give it 232/263 pen and 320 alpha (so basically lorraine/50 100/somua gun, but as a single shot) giving it base 2750 dpm. Buff aimtime from 2.2 to 1.9. Boom, done. With rammer, food, bia neat 3.25k dpm and 5.9s reload on 320 alpha. Sounds about right for that gun handling/armor/alpha combination.



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View PostThlurp, on 06 August 2019 - 06:18 AM, said:


T34 and T26e4 don't need a buff, they are powerful as is, the big difference is they do not meet T10 tanks, while all of the new T8 prems do meet T10

 

 

T-34 pref MM, right.. stronk tenk



Amnariel #14 Posted 06 August 2019 - 08:55 AM

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Turàn III do not forget about :D

Ragoutrabbit #15 Posted 06 August 2019 - 09:33 AM

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One of the reasons I'll probably leave again, got a IS-6 and it's pretty much totally useless as you can't really do any real amount of damage to get any meaningful credit income.

 

And i'am not going to play 100's of low tier games just so I can move up certain trees to be competitive.



StinkyStonky #16 Posted 06 August 2019 - 10:25 AM

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View PostYaccay, on 05 August 2019 - 09:16 PM, said:

There is no money in buffing already sold (old) premium tanks.

On the other hand new premium tanks means profit.

 

Conclusion: Do not expect buffing old premium tanks. expect new and better premium tanks.

Sat in the middle of all the waffle about whether this old prem is worse that that one, is the exact explanation of why WG wont do anything.

The fact that your post was ignored explains why WG get away with it.



LordSkyFury #17 Posted 06 August 2019 - 10:37 AM

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View Posthasnainrakha57, on 05 August 2019 - 09:41 PM, said:

I think old premium tanks should be buffed that are power crept by newer ones kinda feel that you are forced to spend money to get the newer ones that are in Meta.Here are few that I think need to be buffed u also add yours

 

1)T34

2)T26e4

3)fv4202

4)Panther 8.8

 

FV4202 does not need any buff. It is already good tier 8 premium tank.



kaneloon #18 Posted 06 August 2019 - 10:47 AM

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View Post7thSyndicate, on 05 August 2019 - 08:56 PM, said:

is-5

is-6

kv-4 K.

CDC

wz 111

T-34

 

This is my t8 prem trash list

 

 

According to the EU server stats :

https://en.wot-life....eu/serverstats/

 

Both IS5 and KV4-K are amongst the best t8 played tanks.



7thSyndicate #19 Posted 06 August 2019 - 11:10 AM

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View Postkaneloon, on 06 August 2019 - 09:47 AM, said:

 

According to the EU server stats :

https://en.wot-life....eu/serverstats/

 

Both IS5 and KV4-K are amongst the best t8 played tanks.

 

IS-5 is cw reward tank, not many have it so it´s safe to say good players own the tank. It´s a very frustrating tank to play with and the gun handling is complete garbage.


Edited by 7thSyndicate, 06 August 2019 - 11:29 AM.


Gremlin182 #20 Posted 06 August 2019 - 11:23 AM

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They could make a lot more money by buffing older premiums or by adding new features to premiums.

Currently older premiums probably do not sell so well, buffing them means they are much more attractive.

 

1 Buff older premiums to make them more competitive with a view to selling more of them

 

2 take all the premiums with preferential MM and do the following, create new version substantially buffed but with normal MM.

Keep both in the game.

So for instance there would be a KV5 and a KV5b players can upgrade to the new version but the original PMM version is not sold or given away again.

That solves the supposed PMM tank problem they will just fade away with time

 

3 Give a choice of 2 guns on premium tanks that gives players more ways to play them and again makes them a more attractive purchase.






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