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speciesUnknown #1 Posted 05 August 2019 - 10:51 PM

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I have 22 universal blueprint fragments. I have never seen a single country specific fragment. I've come to the conclusion that they do not exist.

 

It's easier to ignore the flood of universal fragments than think about it.

 

What ratio of universal to specific fragments do they hand out? Based on a sample size of 22, the ratio is approx 223938838 to 1.

 



Steve8066 #2 Posted 05 August 2019 - 10:56 PM

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124 universal and 10 specific.

Negativvv #3 Posted 05 August 2019 - 10:58 PM

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Play long enough and you'll collect some national blue prints too.

 

 

Now what is really useless are the Cz and Italian Blueprints as I've got both T10s unlocked and there is little prospect of new lines being released for those nations.



speciesUnknown #4 Posted 05 August 2019 - 11:21 PM

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View PostSteve8066, on 05 August 2019 - 10:56 PM, said:

124 universal and 10 specific.

A larger sample size, with my ratio it seems im in the upper percentiles of bad luck with fragments - unless there's more to it, maybe to do with tier. I don't have anything above tier 6.

 



Nitro_Tank #5 Posted 05 August 2019 - 11:23 PM

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View PostspeciesUnknown, on 05 August 2019 - 10:21 PM, said:

A larger sample size, with my ratio it seems im in the upper percentiles of bad luck with fragments - unless there's more to it, maybe to do with tier. I don't have anything above tier 6.

 

I've only ever been able to craft a single fragment for a tank i wanted. National blueprints are super rare for me and then they are split between nations. At least you still get blueprints fragments for random tanks which i find pretty neat, it has saved me quite a few exp.



MarcoStrapone #6 Posted 06 August 2019 - 01:36 AM

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 well?

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WhoCares01 #7 Posted 06 August 2019 - 08:16 AM

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I don't think you get national BPs for nations that you have not yet played. Like I have plenty of BPs for Czech/Polish/Japanese tanks, but I have not a single national BP for either of those (only recently played Polish tier 1 of those nations).

While on the other hand, I have 11 German, 10 Russian, 17 American (incl. 12 from the recent tank rewards event), as well as some Italian/Swedish/UK/Chinese BPs, and ~150 universal BPs, while playing ~3k battles since the BP introduction.


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gunslingerXXX #8 Posted 06 August 2019 - 08:28 AM

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Just ignore the blueprints. The grinds were fine without them anyway.

Sirebellus #9 Posted 06 August 2019 - 08:49 AM

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Each blueprint you get is for a specific tank, if you already have that tank then it becomes a toss up between Universal and national, as you need lots more universal then national the likelihood is that you will get universal.

 

You are going to end up with National fragments for countries you have already fully researched and actual blueprints for tank lines you have no intention of researching, that's just the way it works



Negativvv #10 Posted 06 August 2019 - 10:26 AM

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View PostSirebellus, on 06 August 2019 - 08:49 AM, said:

Each blueprint you get is for a specific tank, if you already have that tank then it becomes a toss up between Universal and national, as you need lots more universal then national the likelihood is that you will get universal.

 

You are going to end up with National fragments for countries you have already fully researched and actual blueprints for tank lines you have no intention of researching, that's just the way it works

I've received loads of blueprints of all sorts since I finished the CZ and Italian lines but never from their respective trees since so I'm assuming it just spits out Universal Fragments instead...



Balc0ra #11 Posted 06 August 2019 - 11:48 AM

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View PostspeciesUnknown, on 05 August 2019 - 10:51 PM, said:

I have 22 universal blueprint fragments. I have never seen a single country specific fragment. I've come to the conclusion that they do not exist.

 

It's easier to ignore the flood of universal fragments than think about it.

 

What ratio of universal to specific fragments do they hand out? Based on a sample size of 22, the ratio is approx 223938838 to 1.

 

 

You don't get national for nations you have yet to research anything in by the looks of it. And you get nationals for nations you get prints you already own. If you don't have many tanks researched, chances are you won't see neither of them often. So the more  you have researched, the bigger the chances are of seeing them.

 

I see them all the time for the few nations I've yet to complete. As I only have 18 tier 9's left to research. Thus I rarely see prints for tank I own, but rather get national and universal. But I had France at 100% and never did see nationals for those. Once the wheeled lights came, the nation was not complete anymore. I got 12 nationals in 14 days for those. You are on the other side of the system. You instead getr random XP discounts for tanks you don't have, and don't get to pick and choose that well on your own yet. 



Spurtung #12 Posted 06 August 2019 - 11:56 AM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 06 August 2019 - 10:48 AM, said:

Thus I rarely see prints for tank I own

 

Not rarely, never. At all.



Random_Humanoid #13 Posted 06 August 2019 - 07:59 PM

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NO

 

they get you to the next tank quickly so you start as stock again and are forced to have more crapgames, or pay to unlock top items thus adding to the money wg is after

 

working purely as intended



Nitro_Tank #14 Posted 06 August 2019 - 08:12 PM

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View PostRandom_Humanoid, on 06 August 2019 - 06:59 PM, said:

NO

 

they get you to the next tank quickly so you start as stock again and are forced to have more crapgames, or pay to unlock top items thus adding to the money wg is after

 

working purely as intended

Sad but true, ofc brain dead shills will say this is okay and totally fair



speciesUnknown #15 Posted 06 August 2019 - 10:43 PM

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View PostWhoCares01, on 06 August 2019 - 08:16 AM, said:

I don't think you get national BPs for nations that you have not yet played. Like I have plenty of BPs for Czech/Polish/Japanese tanks, but I have not a single national BP for either of those (only recently played Polish tier 1 of those nations).

While on the other hand, I have 11 German, 10 Russian, 17 American (incl. 12 from the recent tank rewards event), as well as some Italian/Swedish/UK/Chinese BPs, and ~150 universal BPs, while playing ~3k battles since the BP introduction.

 

I've currently got UK, US, DE and USSR vehicles, but in the past I've had most nations so this doesn't explain it.

 



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View PostRandom_Humanoid, on 06 August 2019 - 06:59 PM, said:

NO

 

they get you to the next tank quickly so you start as stock again and are forced to have more crapgames, or pay to unlock top items thus adding to the money wg is after

 

working purely as intended

you pay??? i dont. its free stuff sooo.... you only pay if you want . jezas.



WhoCares01 #17 Posted 07 August 2019 - 08:50 AM

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View PostspeciesUnknown, on 06 August 2019 - 10:43 PM, said:

 

I've currently got UK, US, DE and USSR vehicles, but in the past I've had most nations so this doesn't explain it.

 


Well, I don't know the mechanism behind, it's just my observation. All my BPs dropped in ~3100 battles, for a total of 149 universal and ~40 national BPs dropped (excl. the 12 from the tank rewards event).

In that count missing of course are the many tank specific BPs, with >160 tanks already researched. I think by now most of my not researched tanks already have a BP sticking on them (maybe ~70%?), plenty with more than 1.

How many tanks are currently in game? Don't know, but going by my number of universal and national BPs, I would not be surprised if I had >200 tank specific BPs as well, which would mean that I get about 1 BP of any kind every 6-10 battles, give or take, but that's a very rough estimation


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Thornvalley #18 Posted 07 August 2019 - 09:12 AM

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I think you get nation tokens for the ones you actively play. Not if you have tanks sitting in the garage. For me, I'm always short on universal tokens.

Wreckedum #19 Posted 07 August 2019 - 08:21 PM

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Not used them before today. I noticed that to get the Brit Setter I would need about 40k xp. Cromwell had 8k spare already so I started grinding. But after checking I had 50k free xp which I would rather use for levelling up. So I tried the fragments. It took about 6-8 universals + 2 Brit fragments and I got the Setter with most of my free xp un-touched. So not having to grind at all was a big bonus - I like 'em

PraefectusMors #20 Posted 08 August 2019 - 05:37 AM

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Well guys, I can say at WG really knows how not to please players. During last 4 weeks I have played about 1000 battles and did receive during it about 120 general blueprints (322 total now). Ok, reason is at I got only 2 tanks (60TP and Prog 65) to research anymore (+4 brits since yesterday) but if you think at you get 120+ general ones without ANY national for those two nations (poland, italia...) well....

 

And ofc now, when I need only 35k and 39k exp to get those tanks, now after update 1.6 release I got during 24 battles 4 general blueprints AND 1 UK national AND 1 Poland national one. That UK one is something what I might need but it will be less than that 1000 battles at I get Manticore too, so propably I don't need even those if appearing happens just like earlier... then Italia and Poland pieces... nah, 20-30 battles to go and tanks are mine so not a chance to get enough prints.

 

Actually, what might happen, is at WG gives me now when it is total useless and late, one frag to both of those oncoming X-tier's :D

 

Blueprint system just slaps players faces, but that ain't new info => We are talking about wg :)






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