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Dirtiest move from WG EVER! You get better awards with CZ T8 Premium then with regular tank!


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Enherjaren #1 Posted 07 August 2019 - 02:26 PM

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Utterly disgusted by this if I'm not misinterpreting anything. 

Edited by Enherjaren, 07 August 2019 - 02:29 PM.


pihip #2 Posted 07 August 2019 - 02:32 PM

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I've seen such moves before in World of Warships, where having one or more specific premium ships allowed easier completion of missions, or allowed access to unique missions with good rewards tied to them. :sceptic:

So no, not really surprised by this, though I'm not sure I've ever seen it in World of Tanks.

Edited by pihip, 07 August 2019 - 02:34 PM.


StinkyStonky #3 Posted 07 August 2019 - 02:36 PM

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One was to think of this is that "You have to buy the tank to get the mission rewards".

 

Another way to think of it is "You have to complete missions to get the items you paid for."

 

I see part of the extra is female crew members and a 2M credit crew book ... This is the same as a BiA crew on a Berlin Tank.



r00barb #4 Posted 07 August 2019 - 02:37 PM

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View PostEnherjaren, on 07 August 2019 - 01:26 PM, said:

Utterly disgusted by this if I'm not misinterpreting anything. 

 

You're not misinterpreting it, the event description states clearly that female crew and crew books are only available from missions completed with the T 27. The ladies are tied to the Czech nation though, they're not for use across the board.

 

You might not have noticed than completing mission 10 in a regular tank "rewards" you with the 3D style that can only be applied to the T 27. I'm hoping I can sell it for credits because I've no intention of buying the tank.



tajj7 #5 Posted 07 August 2019 - 02:38 PM

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In their defence looking at those rewards, don't you get rewards more tailored to developing a Czech medium crew? 

 

Crew books and female crew members, they are basically trying to incentivise buying the premium to train your new Czech crew and grind the line. 

 

Those rewards if you already have the line ground and have a good crew seem to be less important, especially if they are Czech only ones. (which seems to be the case, they are tied to the czech tree)

 

Plus is this really any different from any other premium purchase? You get more stuff if you get a premium account and get premium only missions, you get more stuff if you buy a bigger bundle on a premium tank, what difference does getting the extra stuff via missions make?

 

It's basically buy a tank get extra stuff, except you have to do missions for them. 


Edited by tajj7, 07 August 2019 - 02:40 PM.


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*edited*

Edited by Daxeno, 07 August 2019 - 05:18 PM.
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View Posttajj7, on 07 August 2019 - 02:38 PM, said:

In their defence looking at those rewards, don't you get rewards more tailored to developing a Czech medium crew? 

 

Crew books and female crew members, they are basically trying to incentivise buying the premium to train your new Czech crew and grind the line. 

 

Those rewards if you already have the line ground and have a good crew seem to be less important, especially if they are Czech only ones. (which seems to be the case, they are tied to the czech tree)

 

Plus is this really any different from any other premium purchase? You get more stuff if you get a premium account and get premium only missions, you get more stuff if you buy a bigger bundle on a premium tank, what difference does getting the extra stuff via missions make?

 

It's basically buy a tank get extra stuff, except you have to do missions for them. 

 

Seems to me they didn't think Skoda T27 can compete with the Progetto so they had to offer female crew members to be able to sell their new premium.



r00barb #8 Posted 07 August 2019 - 02:44 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 07 August 2019 - 01:38 PM, said:

Plus is this really any different from any other premium purchase? You get more stuff if you get a premium account, you get more stuff if you buy a bigger bundle on a premium tank, what difference does getting the extra stuff via missions make? 

 

Fair point, I guess some complaints may arise from the re-use of the marathon interface but (for example) wrecking 15 enemy tanks for mission 9 isn't exactly onerous compared to tank marathon requirements in the past.

 

My CZ grind stalled with the T 50, completing these missions in that will at least give me free equipment for the TVP 50/51.



tajj7 #9 Posted 07 August 2019 - 02:46 PM

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View Postr00barb, on 07 August 2019 - 01:44 PM, said:

 

Fair point, I guess some complaints may arise from the re-use of the marathon interface but (for example) wrecking 15 enemy tanks for mission 9 isn't exactly onerous compared to tank marathon requirements in the past.

 

My CZ grind stalled with the T 50, completing these missions in that will at least give me free equipment for the TVP 50/51.

 

Yeh I'm not seeing the outrage, pay no money get some free stuff by doing some simple missions, pay money get more stuff by doing missions. 

 

Surprised you stalled on the T50, its a very strong tank. 



Balc0ra #10 Posted 07 August 2019 - 02:50 PM

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There has always been a gap there. As in people that lacked high tiers etc gets less than those that don't for stage events. I kinda expected it to go around the tank this time if there was any, as WG have said there is no marathon until Sept. Nor is this the first time there has been events for a premium as such either. Either via events or with missions for the tank only. Inc crew rewards. This time everyone gets something, vs just missions only for those that bought the tank. I don't see the issue with that.

 

And since I have the tech tree unlocked already. Half the rewards are meaningless as is. With or without the tank. And it's not like we lack directives from FL etc for me to get upset about that vs just optics.

 

I'm not gonna say no to all those national prints either way, as they work for all nations. Only thing I found insulting is the fact both gives the skin for the premium as the end reward. Even if you don't have it.

 

View PostPayMore, on 07 August 2019 - 02:40 PM, said:

WG is really a bunch of assholes

 

 

Because they know you stick around to play their game either way. And they love you for it.


Edited by Balc0ra, 07 August 2019 - 02:53 PM.


malachi6 #11 Posted 07 August 2019 - 02:52 PM

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OP.  Have you ever bought a thing because of an incentive?

r00barb #12 Posted 07 August 2019 - 02:53 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 07 August 2019 - 01:46 PM, said:

Surprised you stalled on the T50, its a very strong tank. 

 

It is, I'm the weak link. Nearly all my grinds stall around tier 8 or 9 when I realise I'm way outside my comfort zone and I start a new line because mid-tier is happy tier. I'm trying to change that starting with Japanese mediums because of TotT this month, picked up my STA-1 grind and so far ... uh ... so so ... :unsure:



undutchable80 #13 Posted 07 August 2019 - 03:11 PM

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I will try to reach level 7, since that nets me a total of 30 Czech BPs, which means I can put 10 BPs on the T9 and only have to play the T8 for a handful of games. 

NUKLEAR_SLUG #14 Posted 07 August 2019 - 03:13 PM

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View PostEnherjaren, on 07 August 2019 - 02:26 PM, said:

Utterly disgusted by this if I'm not misinterpreting anything. 

 

So what? You know what else you don't get if you don't buy the T27? You don't get a Czech premium medium. Funny that they don't just give you stuff for nothing.

 

It's a promotion for the tank to encourage sales. It's what companies that are trying to sell stuff do. Don't like it? Don't buy it.



wolfsrain #15 Posted 07 August 2019 - 03:15 PM

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I think i am going to stop playing any Czech tanks until this ends. I am not far of finishing T50, so those rewards are not appealing, plus a style that can be used only a specific tank which i don't intend to buy at such high price it's not exactly compeling either.

Enherjaren #16 Posted 07 August 2019 - 03:17 PM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 07 August 2019 - 03:13 PM, said:

 

So what? You know what else you don't get if you don't buy the T27? You don't get a Czech premium medium. Funny that they don't just give you stuff for nothing.

 

It's a promotion for the tank to encourage sales. It's what companies that are trying to sell stuff do. Don't like it? Don't buy it.

 

Exactly!
God knows I have supported WG in the past, but personally I find this to be the worst money grab up to date. I feel more encouraged to stay even more on the f2p-line now.  


Edited by Enherjaren, 07 August 2019 - 03:28 PM.


8126Jakobsson #17 Posted 07 August 2019 - 03:55 PM

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I see it to be more of a special for new players or just new to/interested in the line. I mean I have already played the tanks. I already have a good crew. Both the tank and the more generous mission path is for those who have not. They go hand in hand.

Does it look good? Nah, not really. But I can't say that I mind it since I see it as a package that I am not interested in anyway. Just gonna grab the "free" stuff and...wait a minute the style there is also for T27 only? Nä nu jävlar. :angry: 



MarcoStrapone #18 Posted 07 August 2019 - 03:56 PM

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im good with free stuff

TungstenHitman #19 Posted 07 August 2019 - 04:01 PM

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I don't mind that sort of promotion tbh. Sure, you buy the tank and get more things and mission stuff but at the end of the day, so long as the tank itself isn't broken or OP, which I don't think it is, then it's not bad for gameplay and is just a company trying to sell it's products which is part of this game and they have made it more attractive to do so by attaching bloatware and benefits. This, I can accept and it's understandable for a company that runs a free to play game to seek financial gains this way, like I said, it ain't breaking the game, so that's 100% fine imo. 

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So what? You don't have to buy T27 if you don't want to.

 

I am just grateful of the blueprints rewards, since it will considerably fasten up getting rid of the recently bought TVP VTU and reaching T50. Extra equipment doesn't hurt either. Missions don't even seem that hard.

 

Maybe the bonus rewards could have been with czech vehicles in general instead of T27, but this way spares me from doing them in VTU. And T50 seems better tank anyways.






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