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Milktank #1 Posted 08 August 2019 - 06:35 PM

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Please turn it back on.
Some team mates don't care and block my shots. I would rather shoot on my teammates turret backside and pay the fee then have my shots blocked.
And now team mates push my Grille out of the bushes because they want that spot. This has never happened to me before, never. But now it's just silly.

 

Be honest Wargaming, You have turned off Friendly Fire because you were tired of all those send in support tickets :D
 



PayMore #2 Posted 08 August 2019 - 07:10 PM

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Admins need to drink coffe and chat with GF's. Understad them.

malachi6 #3 Posted 08 August 2019 - 07:14 PM

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Two weeks ago, the forum is filled with complaints about team damage and how bad it is.  Now the forum is filled with complaints about how the lack of team damage or how people are changing how they grief because of it.

 

Who could possibly have foreseen that?



Milktank #4 Posted 08 August 2019 - 07:25 PM

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View Postmalachi6, on 08 August 2019 - 06:14 PM, said:

Two weeks ago, the forum is filled with complaints about team damage and how bad it is.  Now the forum is filled with complaints about how the lack of team damage or how people are changing how they grief because of it.

 

Who could possibly have foreseen that?

 

I can understand about team damage but to change it after soo many years. They should make a checker box next to Battle with friendly fire on/off so people can choose and mm will fix it.



NekoPuffer_PPP #5 Posted 08 August 2019 - 07:27 PM

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View Postmalachi6, on 08 August 2019 - 08:14 PM, said:

Two weeks ago, the forum is filled with complaints about team damage and how bad it is.  Now the forum is filled with complaints about how the lack of team damage or how people are changing how they grief because of it.

 

Who could possibly have foreseen that?

 

Give people what you want, and they will be unhappy. Give them what they want, and they'll say it's wrong.

 

There is no bad without the good, no good without the bad.

 

There is no such thing as perfect because some still think it's bad.

 

Ultimately, it all boils down to that famous Lincoln quote: You can please some of the people, some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time.



superfly2000 #6 Posted 08 August 2019 - 10:14 PM

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This is what happens when you put the development of the game into the hands of screaming kids...like has been done the last couple of years...

jamielinney #7 Posted 09 August 2019 - 08:54 AM

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View Postsuperfly2000, on 08 August 2019 - 10:14 PM, said:

This is what happens when you put the development of the game into the hands of screaming kids...like has been done the last couple of years...

 

Maybe they should set up their own Discord to toon with like minded souls?



tajj7 #8 Posted 09 August 2019 - 09:45 AM

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Sounds more like someone is angry that they can't lash out at people who they think have wronged them.

 

Got any evidence of this increased blocking and pushing? Like screenshots, replays etc. because I have noticed no difference. 



goer_marksman #9 Posted 09 August 2019 - 09:53 AM

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GOOD JOB WG!!!

5 battles in and already 2 battles where i was pushed in the open, blocked my rear intentionally to take enemy fire AND hits by the same "players" in the rear to be distracted.

AND BEFORE that i never had a single word in chat nor touched any tanks at all, just plain bullies..

NOW bullies can do all they want without consequences, before that having a derp gun almost gave you a peace of mind as u knew ppl are not going to abuse physics in fear of retaliation.

 

5 battles and 2 horrible/unplayable ones------->logoff



tajj7 #10 Posted 09 August 2019 - 10:14 AM

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View Postgoer_marksman, on 09 August 2019 - 08:53 AM, said:

GOOD JOB WG!!!

5 battles in and already 2 battles where i was pushed in the open, blocked my rear intentionally to take enemy fire AND hits by the same "players" in the rear to be distracted.

AND BEFORE that i never had a single word in chat nor touched any tanks at all, just plain bullies..

NOW bullies can do all they want without consequences, before that having a derp gun almost gave you a peace of mind as u knew ppl are not going to abuse physics in fear of retaliation.

 

5 battles and 2 horrible/unplayable ones------->logoff

 

Replays? 

 



goer_marksman #11 Posted 09 August 2019 - 10:21 AM

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View Posttajj7, on 09 August 2019 - 10:14 AM, said:

 

Replays? 

 


Hi, that's the max time i can spend with people like you, bye.



tajj7 #12 Posted 09 August 2019 - 10:25 AM

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View Postgoer_marksman, on 09 August 2019 - 09:21 AM, said:


Hi, that's the max time i can spend with people like you, bye.

 

So no replays then, meaning you have probably at best exaggerated, at worst you are probably the one being the troll in the game and got annoyed people are retaliating against you. 

 

Highly likely you are one of those players who liked team damage because they could lash out at people they didn't like.

 

If you genuinely got pushed around and are completely innocent, send the replays to support, but like I said I suspect you are no innocent in this and that is why you won't show the replays. 



Balc0ra #13 Posted 09 August 2019 - 10:55 AM

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View Postmalachi6, on 08 August 2019 - 07:14 PM, said:

Two weeks ago, the forum is filled with complaints about team damage and how bad it is.  Now the forum is filled with complaints about how the lack of team damage or how people are changing how they grief because of it.

 

Who could possibly have foreseen that?

 

Well because one half was complaining, and the other half was happy and said nothing. Now the other half is happy with it off and says nothing, while the other half that did say nothing now complains.

 

Tho this is exactly what I feared would happen if they turned it off, as in more would care less and drive up more as you don't have to consider where the friendly barrels are aiming. As for the rest, it's still early. Hopefully some of it will calm down, as many are just testing the new system with trolling. Finding where the new limit goes. I've seen it a fair few too many times already. 

 

Tho friendly arty stun is still the biggest issue with it. As in no penalty. I've seen one turn blue from pushing a friendly off the bridge and drowning him. But not a single one for stun. And getting stunned 10 times for not spotting the "correct" spot is always fun.



TungstenHitman #14 Posted 09 August 2019 - 11:00 AM

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Well, keeping team damage as way of "keeping the peace" isn't really a sensible reason to keep since that's basically endorsing team damage and team killing, whereby each player is judge, jury and if needs be, executioner. Especially since there are very hmmmmm, how can I say.... "eccentric" players in this game so what one player would deem a minor "offense" another would deem outrageously offensive and "how dare you slightly nudge my tank just then, you die now!!" or "This is my spot, die!!" so that's not a good reason to keep team damage. That said, you certainly wouldn't be inclined to grief a player using and FV4005 would you? 

r00barb #15 Posted 09 August 2019 - 11:17 AM

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View Posttajj7, on 09 August 2019 - 08:45 AM, said:

... I have noticed no difference. 

 

I've noticed a difference ... I saw more people apologise for accidental pushes yesterday than I remember seeing over the last year. :amazed:

 

I've no idea what brought that on but it made me feel more conscious of my own poor driving. I also took a bounce from a stroppy light tank player who somehow blamed me for his driving out in front of a camo'd S1 after I'd clicked the map and said, "S1 camping there" when it shot me.

 

When the FF change was announced, I put myself firmly on the side of it's dumbing down by removing some tactical decision making and while I still believe that to be the case, I'm finding it harder to make a case for it being a backward step overall.



TankkiPoju #16 Posted 09 August 2019 - 11:52 AM

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View Postmalachi6, on 08 August 2019 - 07:14 PM, said:

Two weeks ago, the forum is filled with complaints about team damage and how bad it is. 

 

Yeah because friendly arty shoots friendly tanks because they never go blue or get banned.

 

Now friendly arty still shoots friendly tanks, that problem didn't go away at all.



8126Jakobsson #17 Posted 09 August 2019 - 11:57 AM

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View Posttajj7, on 09 August 2019 - 10:25 AM, said:

send the replays to support

 

I honestly can't be arsed. I probably wouldn't even take that time if I genuinely believed it would make a difference. 



goer_marksman #18 Posted 09 August 2019 - 12:09 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 09 August 2019 - 10:25 AM, said:

 

So no replays then, meaning you have probably at best exaggerated, at worst you are probably the one being the troll in the game and got annoyed people are retaliating against you. 

 

Highly likely you are one of those players who liked team damage because they could lash out at people they didn't like.

 

If you genuinely got pushed around and are completely innocent, send the replays to support, but like I said I suspect you are no innocent in this and that is why you won't show the replays. 


You: 27672 battles and 117 battle buddy medals = 5850 battles without damaging teammates

Me: 6312 battles and 69 battle buddy medals = 3450 battles without damaging teammates

 

case closed*

 

hence the *"with people like you"



tajj7 #19 Posted 09 August 2019 - 12:15 PM

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View Postgoer_marksman, on 09 August 2019 - 11:09 AM, said:


You: 27672 battles and 117 battle buddy medals = 5850 battles without damaging teammates

Me: 6312 battles and 69 battle buddy medals = 3450 battles without damaging teammates

 

case closed*

 

hence the *"with people like you"

 

Case closed? LOL.

 

You know I have played a lot of games before baddle buddies was a thing. Secondly you don;t get battle buddies for trolling you platoon mates. 

 

Thirdly battle buddies won't show all the people you have probably been blocking. 

 

And finally it's still not a replay so its still says to me you are making this all up. 

 



goer_marksman #20 Posted 09 August 2019 - 12:59 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 09 August 2019 - 12:15 PM, said:

 

Case closed? LOL.

 

You know I have played a lot of games before baddle buddies was a thing. Secondly you don;t get battle buddies for trolling you platoon mates. 

 

Thirdly battle buddies won't show all the people you have probably been blocking. 

 

And finally it's still not a replay so its still says to me you are making this all up. 

 

" I have played a lot of games before baddle buddies"

-no

battle buddy medal at patch 0.9.3 (sept 2014), so you're still in a coef of 2++ compared to me (you started April 2014, and battles played by period are available on wot stats..)

"won't show all the people you have probably been blocking"

-assumptions vs facts

" its still says to me you are making this all up"

-assumptions and deliberately trying to bully people on forum

 

cacacacase closed !






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