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XxKuzkina_MatxX #1 Posted 11 August 2019 - 12:46 AM

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Since this fat dude will be in the premium shop soon, probably during Gamescom 2019 (August 20~24). Here are its final stats and armor layout...

 

Stats

 

 

Armor Layout

 

 

  • Upper glacis: 306mm effective.
  • Lower plate: 191mm effective.
  • Turret front: 250~260mm effective.
  • Commander cupola: 170~180mm effective.
  • Side armor: 100mm

 

Check the armor values here.

Full disclosure, the engine deck is 40mm so it's overmatch for 121mm guns and above!

 

Comparison with the VK 100.01 (P) and the Lowe

 

Comparison link.

 

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Edited by XxKuzkina_MatxX, 11 August 2019 - 02:03 AM.


The_Naa #2 Posted 11 August 2019 - 01:10 AM

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thanks for bringing this to my attention :)

something this beautiful i can not pass by

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Edited by The_Naa, 11 August 2019 - 01:12 AM.


mateyflip #3 Posted 11 August 2019 - 07:29 AM

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Thanks mate, very detailed post :).

 

Am thinking I want one too.



If_I_Die_You_Die_Too #4 Posted 11 August 2019 - 07:29 AM

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A one eyed goat will spot it at 444 meters

mateyflip #5 Posted 11 August 2019 - 07:32 AM

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View PostIf_I_Die_You_Die_Too, on 11 August 2019 - 06:29 AM, said:

A one eyed goat will spot it at 444 meters

 

I ain't afraid of no goat :harp:



XxKuzkina_MatxX #6 Posted 11 August 2019 - 07:35 AM

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View Postmateyflip, on 11 August 2019 - 10:29 AM, said:

Thanks mate, very detailed post :).

 

Am thinking I want one too.

 

Morning my friend. :)

 

If you don't have a Lowe and want a cheap yet fun-sized german heavy then it's a good buy. The Lowe costs 12.5k gold while this thing goes for 8k only. The rear mounted turret can be awkward on some maps but it's still good value for money i guess.



If_I_Die_You_Die_Too #7 Posted 11 August 2019 - 08:02 AM

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It's a German Chrysler K, a great big HP pinata with zero camo

 

If wot follow their usual policies it will have 40mm of top turret and upper deck armour so every 122mm in the game can overmatch it

If the Germans made it it would have 50 to 60mm of upper plate

 

Fine as a top tier 6/7/8 but tier 9 and 10 will feast upon you

So 10-15% of your games will be fun

 

What's the turret top on the Defender? 55mm


Edited by If_I_Die_You_Die_Too, 11 August 2019 - 08:17 AM.


XxKuzkina_MatxX #8 Posted 11 August 2019 - 11:12 AM

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View PostIf_I_Die_You_Die_Too, on 11 August 2019 - 11:02 AM, said:

It's a German Chrysler K, a great big HP pinata with zero camo

 

If wot follow their usual policies it will have 40mm of top turret and upper deck armour so every 122mm in the game can overmatch it

If the Germans made it it would have 50 to 60mm of upper plate

 

Fine as a top tier 6/7/8 but tier 9 and 10 will feast upon you

So 10-15% of your games will be fun

 

What's the turret top on the Defender? 55mm

 

Well, this post is all over the place so i will pick some interesting stuff...

 

  • The engine deck is 30mm on the Defender vs. 40mm on this tank although i don't exactly know what does that have to do with anything? I did note in my post that the engine deck is overmatched by 121mm guns and above.
  • Very few tier 8 tanks have a chance against tier 9 and 10 tanks. None against tier 9s and 10s gold spam.
  • It's more like a VKB with a stock turret at tier 8 than the Chrysler. It's slower than the Chrysler with lower specific power but higher standard pen and alpha so it got potential as a credit maker.
  • Compared to the Lowe:

8mm less standard pen + 170 more alpha = +20 credits/shell ==>> Derp! :D


Edited by XxKuzkina_MatxX, 11 August 2019 - 11:27 AM.


The_Naa #9 Posted 11 August 2019 - 11:24 AM

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View PostIf_I_Die_You_Die_Too, on 11 August 2019 - 08:02 AM, said:

 

Fine as a top tier 6/7/8 but tier 9 and 10 will feast upon you

So 10-15% of your games will be fun

 

if a Tier 8 tank, or any tier tank in general, can take on 1 or 2 tier(s) higher tank on a 1 on 1 action and WIN,

i would argue that the tank is over powered.

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FatigueGalaxy #10 Posted 11 August 2019 - 05:43 PM

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490 alpha on an armoured beast and it's faster+smaller than VK100.01P.

Ok.



mateyflip #11 Posted 11 August 2019 - 08:32 PM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 11 August 2019 - 06:35 AM, said:

 

Morning my friend. :)

 

If you don't have a Lowe and want a cheap yet fun-sized german heavy then it's a good buy. The Lowe costs 12.5k gold while this thing goes for 8k only. The rear mounted turret can be awkward on some maps but it's still good value for money i guess.

 

Good evening sir,  I was hoping that this thing would be a bit bouncy.  I'm having a devil of a time getting the x 2 the damage mission lol.

 

Once again thanks for the effort in your first post. Its always good to read well thought out and constructed topics / replies.



kubawt112 #12 Posted 11 August 2019 - 08:42 PM

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View Postmateyflip, on 11 August 2019 - 08:32 PM, said:

 

Good evening sir,  I was hoping that this thing would be a bit bouncy.  I'm having a devil of a time getting the x 2 the damage mission lol.

 

Once again thanks for the effort in your first post. Its always good to read well thought out and constructed topics / replies.

 

Fair chance it might do the trick, in particular in the beginning. You can really notice it in the KV-220, right after its been on sale people seem to aim at weakspots or load premium ammo much more consequently than otherwise. Of course, that's low-tier gameplay, but you know.



mateyflip #13 Posted 12 August 2019 - 08:16 AM

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View Postkubawt112, on 11 August 2019 - 07:42 PM, said:

 

Fair chance it might do the trick, in particular in the beginning. You can really notice it in the KV-220, right after its been on sale people seem to aim at weakspots or load premium ammo much more consequently than otherwise. Of course, that's low-tier gameplay, but you know.

 

Yeah I know that one! I either get within 500 hp of completion then BOOM!  Or the other tank gets bored and sods off lol



tajj7 #14 Posted 12 August 2019 - 08:43 AM

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A premium, faster VK 1001 P, with more turret armour and more alpha, yeh not OP at all :facepalm:

TankkiPoju #15 Posted 12 August 2019 - 09:03 AM

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View Posttajj7, on 12 August 2019 - 08:43 AM, said:

A premium, faster VK 1001 P, with more turret armour and more alpha, yeh not OP at all :facepalm:

 

I dunno man, normally I would agree but... Rear mounted turret with 5 degrees of gun depression, terribad gun soft stats.

 

I would say it comes down to the armor layout, if its good for sidescraping or not. Knowing WG and history with German tanks; it has some stupid weakspot that ruins the entire tank.

 



splash_time #16 Posted 12 August 2019 - 09:04 AM

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Wait, this VK is for cash too? 

I thought they said it gonna be a marathon.


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XxKuzkina_MatxX #17 Posted 12 August 2019 - 09:23 AM

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View Postsplash_time, on 12 August 2019 - 12:04 PM, said:

Wait, this VK is for cash too? 

I thought they said it gonna be a marathon.

 

No marathons until September (or later). This probably will be for sale during Gamescom 2019 (20~24 August).



undutchable80 #18 Posted 12 August 2019 - 09:30 AM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 12 August 2019 - 09:23 AM, said:

 

No marathons until September (or later). This probably will be for sale during Gamescom 2019 (20~24 August).

COuld still end up as a marathon later this year, especially since we havent had a German marathon yet...



tajj7 #19 Posted 12 August 2019 - 09:31 AM

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 12 August 2019 - 08:03 AM, said:

 

I dunno man, normally I would agree but... Rear mounted turret with 5 degrees of gun depression, terribad gun soft stats.

 

I would say it comes down to the armor layout, if its good for sidescraping or not. Knowing WG and history with German tanks; it has some stupid weakspot that ruins the entire tank.

 

 

Gun handling is only marginally worse than the 1001 but its 490 alpha and has more pen. For 490 alpha the gun handling is decent, has way better aim time than Defender. 

 

It also has no side weapspots, upper side armour is even angled so it'll troll lower tier guns who look like they have flat ish side shots, but turns out you can get like 160-180 with massive over angling. 

 

It can sit at about 45 degrees and if you dont have 230+ pen then you have to hit the cupola flush to pen and even then a lot of tier 7s its 50/50. 

 

This is a tier 8 Super Heavy that will be able to two shot tier 7 meds with high rolls, that most won't be able to pen. Its a tier 8 heavy with better turret armour and upper plate than an E75 FFS. 



XxKuzkina_MatxX #20 Posted 12 August 2019 - 09:36 AM

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View Postundutchable80, on 12 August 2019 - 12:30 PM, said:

COuld still end up as a marathon later this year, especially since we havent had a German marathon yet...

 

Could be, but they usually come up with some new premium for Gamescom every year. :)






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