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LaManche #1 Posted 11 August 2019 - 11:19 AM

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Greetings ladies and gentlemen,

 

Just came back from abroad after six months, booted up the game and... would somebody kindly explain to me what on Earth had happened to Type 5 Heavy?

 

@Wargaming: 900 damage per shot? Are you kidding me? A frickin' Foch 155 has can do more damage with HE (1,100 precisely) AND it fires faster (if the gun wasn't auto-loader)! Even Grille on HE does more (950)!

 

I do understand Type 5 was overpowered but now it's just pathetic. Other heavies just beat the frick out of it so much so that Type 5 leaks oil out of its exhaust. Buff the damage to at least vanilla 1,100, what the frick dudes, you killed my favorite tank so I will kill my favorite wallet for you. Threw £1,500 at this game up until last year when I realized you're going bonkers so I've gone F2P since then and you're not convincing me to get my debit card back out with your spasticated shenanigans. The average statistics for Type 5 Heavy must be really bad now for I got a second mark of mastery in my first battle back!

 

*insert sadViolinNoises.mp3*


Edited by LaManche, 11 August 2019 - 11:21 AM.


Nishi_Kinuyo #2 Posted 11 August 2019 - 11:44 AM

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Just use the 14cm/50 3rd Year Type instead.

LordMuffin #3 Posted 11 August 2019 - 12:35 PM

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View PostLaManche, on 11 August 2019 - 11:19 AM, said:

Greetings ladies and gentlemen,

 

Just came back from abroad after six months, booted up the game and... would somebody kindly explain to me what on Earth had happened to Type 5 Heavy?

 

@Wargaming: 900 damage per shot? Are you kidding me? A frickin' Foch 155 has can do more damage with HE (1,100 precisely) AND it fires faster (if the gun wasn't auto-loader)! Even Grille on HE does more (950)!

 

I do understand Type 5 was overpowered but now it's just pathetic. Other heavies just beat the frick out of it so much so that Type 5 leaks oil out of its exhaust. Buff the damage to at least vanilla 1,100, what the frick dudes, you killed my favorite tank so I will kill my favorite wallet for you. Threw £1,500 at this game up until last year when I realized you're going bonkers so I've gone F2P since then and you're not convincing me to get my debit card back out with your spasticated shenanigans. The average statistics for Type 5 Heavy must be really bad now for I got a second mark of mastery in my first battle back!

 

*insert sadViolinNoises.mp3*

Use a real gun instead of some no-skill derpgun.



kubawt112 #4 Posted 11 August 2019 - 12:42 PM

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Well, it's been discussed to death already, but of course there were more interesting ways to do it. You know, actually giving it weakspots, to start with, or limiting its ability to basically snipe with that sort of gun. "Realistic" behaviour from a gun, but completely out the window in terms of "game logic".

CrazyLovex #5 Posted 12 August 2019 - 11:41 AM

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Edited by CrazyLovex, 12 August 2019 - 11:42 AM.


Balc0ra #6 Posted 12 August 2019 - 11:51 AM

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View PostLaManche, on 11 August 2019 - 11:19 AM, said:

Just came back from abroad after six months, booted up the game and... would somebody kindly explain to me what on Earth had happened to Type 5 Heavy?

 

Remember all those tanks you hit with the gold HE? They told WG and that's why. It was a tad silly with that ammo, and the normal HE vs paper targets. It needed a damage nerf, but tbh the normal ammo should have gotten a slight pen buff to go with it tbh. And the AP only got a minor buff to make that a more attractive option.

 

 

View PostLaManche, on 11 August 2019 - 11:19 AM, said:

Threw £1,500 at this game up until last year when I realized you're going bonkers so I've gone F2P since then and you're not convincing me to get my debit card back out with your spasticated shenanigans. The average statistics for Type 5 Heavy must be really bad now for I got a second mark of mastery in my first battle back!

 

Well, thing is that people that complained about the tank threw money at this game to, and did not "pay" to face that, or would not spend money until those tanks got slapped. So that argument goes both ways.


Edited by Balc0ra, 12 August 2019 - 11:52 AM.


oo0oo0oooo0oo0o #7 Posted 12 August 2019 - 12:01 PM

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Type 5 is totally dead. I just sold mine and it is the first Tier X tank that I have ever sold. I wasn't in shortage of credit. I just wanted to sell so that I will not be able to play with it again. It just ruined my WR and WN8. With HE gun it does 50-60dmg to Maus, American 110 series and Obj heavies and it has 18ish secs reload time. What about the other gun? Well I would prefer Obj. 705 rather than Type 5 if I want a high alpha super heavy. Or polish heavy tank but not useless crap Type 5. At least they don't drive at 10km/h.

 

Type 5 does have now "NOTHING" special but only drawbacks. You are armor is also useless as it is totally flat and gold/special ammos will just go through it.

 

Thanks for "nerf" Wargaming :)


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JollyRogerz #8 Posted 12 August 2019 - 12:27 PM

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Welcome back, Type 4/5 used to be my go to tanks to release some stress, they've been nerfed to death but still work with the non derp gun, infact the derp gun is completely useless at this point. Sure you catch the odd light or tank showing his side, but after I played a game with my type 5 + derp and did 7 hp damage to a Maus, I gave up on it and switched for the non derp and it works much better. Pretty sad, especially when there are still tanks out there that can cause much more damage than the Type 4/5 and that at this point everyone is spamming gold at it so armor is useless, I dont see why they should have nerfed the derp, but here we are. 

Ceeb #9 Posted 12 August 2019 - 12:37 PM

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Love these kinda posts, I try and think of the mental state of these people as kids, OP I bet you were a bully now the tools have been nerfed you're back to being a yellow belly. 

 

 



krismorgan #10 Posted 12 August 2019 - 12:45 PM

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Sold mine and replaced with deathstar for kicks.

Kozzy #11 Posted 12 August 2019 - 12:47 PM

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Pre nerf Type 5 players:

RR + 22 + Right Click > Left Click = GG

 

Post nerf Type 5 players:

"Halp, I cannot play on easy mode anymore :("



rageman4u #12 Posted 12 August 2019 - 12:51 PM

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I played with 14mm last night. armour is ok! Gun is fine . did over 3k most battles and hit 5k one time.  I was going to do do 12k mission(bounce attack etc) until one unicum torn me apart! lol

TankkiPoju #13 Posted 12 August 2019 - 12:52 PM

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View PostCeeb, on 12 August 2019 - 12:37 PM, said:

Love these kinda posts, I try and think of the mental state of these people as kids, OP I bet you were a bully now the tools have been nerfed you're back to being a yellow belly. 

 

Type 5 was never a good tank, it was just super annoying to play against with the derp gun.

 

But Type 5 isn't a bad tank because the derp gun got nerfed, it's just so very out of meta... just like all armored slow box tanks.

 



LIL_Veky #14 Posted 13 August 2019 - 03:03 PM

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View PostKozzy, on 12 August 2019 - 12:47 PM, said:

Pre nerf Type 5 players:

RR + 22 + Right Click > Left Click = GG

 

Post nerf Type 5 players:

"Halp, I cannot play on easy mode anymore :("

No, you can't play the type 5 at all cause its so useless in every department



Kozzy #15 Posted 13 August 2019 - 03:31 PM

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View PostLIL_Veky, on 13 August 2019 - 02:03 PM, said:

No, you can't play the type 5 at all cause its so useless in every department

 

The first battle here says otherwise:

 

 

The second battle was a fail but would have been with any tank, as you will see.



NekoPuffer_PPP #16 Posted 13 August 2019 - 03:35 PM

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View PostLordMuffin, on 11 August 2019 - 01:35 PM, said:

Use a real gun instead of some no-skill derpgun.

 

I'd agree with this, if the real gun was actually usable.

 

Everyone auto-spams gold ammo at the type 5. The derp allowed it to pop out and shoot tanks without giving them too much time to aim and pen it. It is trash now.

 

Buff the AP gun handling or buff derpgun reload time, because it's borderline unplayable with gold ammo in play.



LaManche #17 Posted 13 August 2019 - 05:51 PM

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Alright, alright, I went ahead and changed it to the other gun aaaaand... now I have a crappy Maus. 

 

When WG suggested to nerf alpha on JP100 everybody were running amok on the forums. "Oh but the alpha is what makes the tank unique!" blah blah blah. I'm all for variety in the game, I don't want same *edited in different skin and the HE gun made Type 5 stand out.

 

As the forumite above suggested, if one's looking for high alpha tanks, they will be better of with Object 705 and that sh*t will never get nerfed cos *edited CCCP.

 

And perhaps WG can up the damage to 1,200 and give it some weakspots.

 


Edited by AngryCombatWombat, 15 August 2019 - 07:12 PM.
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arthurwellsley #18 Posted 13 August 2019 - 06:03 PM

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1. I own a Type 5.

2. The Type 4 at tier IX was a painful grind to get there.

3. Nonetheless I am glad that WG nerfed the Type 5 ammunition, which was richly desevered.

4. WG could have put a little more thought into how the gameplay would pan out with the nerfed gun, and perhaps should have buffed AP penetration.

5. Perhaps after re-looking at the figures from gameplay WG might revisit the penetration value in the future.

6. Although the Type 5 is now pretty useless I still think that the nerf was right, and I have not sold mine on the vague hope that at some point in the future it might become viable again (although the T110E5 sitting sadly in the corner of my garage whispers this is unlikely to happen any time soon).



Nishi_Kinuyo #19 Posted 13 August 2019 - 11:18 PM

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 13 August 2019 - 06:03 PM, said:

1. I own a Type 5.

2. The Type 4 at tier IX was a painful grind to get there.

3. Nonetheless I am glad that WG nerfed the Type 5 ammunition, which was richly desevered.

4. WG could have put a little more thought into how the gameplay would pan out with the nerfed gun, and perhaps should have buffed AP penetration.

5. Perhaps after re-looking at the figures from gameplay WG might revisit the penetration value in the future.

6. Although the Type 5 is now pretty useless I still think that the nerf was right, and I have not sold mine on the vague hope that at some point in the future it might become viable again (although the T110E5 sitting sadly in the corner of my garage whispers this is unlikely to happen any time soon).

1: Same.

2: Same.

3: Same.

4: They did buff the penetration at the same time as they nerfed the 15cm/45 41st Year Type. Both the standard and special AP shells gained +8mm of penetration, along with buffs to handling. But imo, the buffs aren't enough to really make it as competitive as a maus, nevermind a super conquerer.



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View PostLaManche, on 11 August 2019 - 10:19 AM, said:

 

 

I do understand Type 5 was overpowered but now it's just pathetic.

 

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