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Chuwt #1 Posted 11 August 2019 - 04:41 PM

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I am seeing more pushing/ blocking since FF was removed. This seems to be at least in part because tanks that could not do this successfully in the past now can, as they no longer take collision damage, and obviously have no risk of being shot...in the last few days I have been repeatedly shoved by a E25 and an M10, just for examples.

My archer seems particularly affected...it is easy to disrupt the game for it, but people used to think twice about the threat of the gun...now they can do what they like.

What is your experience?

RamRaid90 #2 Posted 11 August 2019 - 04:53 PM

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My experience is that if you're getting trolled alot, generally you'll be doing something wrong to provoke that reaction.

Balc0ra #3 Posted 11 August 2019 - 05:15 PM

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View PostRamRaid90, on 11 August 2019 - 04:53 PM, said:

My experience is that if you're getting trolled alot, generally you'll be doing something wrong to provoke that reaction.

 

Pushing? Been pushed twice. As when you "take their" spot. You don't need to provoke more than that. As they know you can't counter if you are smaller and can't push back after TD was removed. I've seen it on others a fair bit. No provoking on anyone of them. They just wanted that spot too. Nothing more then that.

 

But my main beef with it atm is not pushing. It's arty stun. My lights have been stunned 3 times today already by raging SPG's that I don't spot the right zone for. You know, since they don't have WSAD keys to move after a flank fails. And none of them have turned blue.



r00barb #4 Posted 11 August 2019 - 05:24 PM

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I've been grinding a couple of tanks recently, the O-I Exp. and the Type 61. In one, I've experienced people trying to push me, jump in front when I back up to get cover and then rant when I push forward again, hide behind me and try to use my tank as a combination of spaced armour and spotter. In the other, I've seen a noticeable increase in people apologising for bad driving and making a conscious effort not to block members of their team.

 

I don't understand why some people think pushing a 100t tier V heavy is going to work but that hasn't stopped them trying. :unsure:

 

In short, the bad behaviour I've witnessed has been more prevalent at lower tiers. There's probably various psychological, personal and gaming reasons why that is but I'm playing a 100t tank with a boomy derp gun so I don't really care. :child:



iuytr #5 Posted 11 August 2019 - 05:27 PM

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There's a lot worse trolling going on than what's been described, believe me, players who do nothing all game except drive around ramming all the tanks on their own team. And there's nothing anyone can do about it. Battle lost, replay to WoT, 15 minutes of life wasted.
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View PostRamRaid90, on 11 August 2019 - 04:53 PM, said:

My experience is that if you're getting trolled alot, generally you'll be doing something wrong to provoke that reaction.

 

So the whole 14 other players on the "team" must be doing something wrong? 


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Alukat123 #6 Posted 11 August 2019 - 05:30 PM

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View PostRamRaid90, on 11 August 2019 - 04:53 PM, said:

My experience is that if you're getting trolled alot, generally you'll be doing something wrong to provoke that reaction.

 

it's still idiots who are trolling there, they should just adjust their gameplay instead of throwing away the victory, because someone may just play better/smarter than they want them too.



Pansenmann #7 Posted 11 August 2019 - 05:34 PM

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I seen it on my gameplay too - I no longer care whether I bump into a friendly,

I can't take damage anyways.



Chuwt #8 Posted 11 August 2019 - 05:37 PM

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I am saying I am seeing MORE...my behavior (which you suggest is causing it ) has not changed since FF was stopped...

As to "deserving it" with my archer, for example, I had taken up a firing position, killed one enemy tank (the only kill the team had made so far) and damaged two others, when the M10 decided to drive sideways on and park right in front of me, then started shoving me...dont really think ANYTHING in my play had been provocative in any way.

As an example of something that happened a few weeks before the change, a platoon of three trolls started the game by shooting friends, then pushing. All three turned blue, all three were executed by the team (none of which went blue) within 3 minutes, and we were able to get on with the game, and actually managed to win. Now, they would have all game to piss about.

 



douglarse #9 Posted 11 August 2019 - 05:39 PM

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View PostRamRaid90, on 11 August 2019 - 03:53 PM, said:

My experience is that if you're getting trolled alot, generally you'll be doing something wrong to provoke that reaction.


unfortunately not true at all



r00barb #10 Posted 11 August 2019 - 05:40 PM

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View Postiuytr, on 11 August 2019 - 04:27 PM, said:

There's a lot worse trolling going on than what's been described, believe me, players who do nothing all game except drive around ramming all the tanks on their own team. And there's nothing anyone can do about it.

 

Send the replay to Support on a physics abuse ticket. You won't see what action has been taken due to privacy rules but apparently they're taking those reports seriously and acting on them.

 

Unless, of course, you've acted like a [male chicken] as well and you don't want Support to be even-handed in their punishment.



Balc0ra #11 Posted 11 August 2019 - 05:48 PM

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View Postr00barb, on 11 August 2019 - 05:40 PM, said:

 

Send the replay to Support on a physics abuse ticket. You won't see what action has been taken due to privacy rules but apparently they're taking those reports seriously and acting on them.

 

Unless, of course, you've acted like a [male chicken] as well and you don't want Support to be even-handed in their punishment.

 

They need to make new report functions for pushing now. So it doesn't drown in all the butthurt reports under "unsportsmanlike conduct" so WG can more easily see who does that or not more often.



wotfrance789 #12 Posted 11 August 2019 - 05:56 PM

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View PostRamRaid90, on 11 August 2019 - 04:53 PM, said:

My experience is that if you're getting trolled alot, generally you'll be doing something wrong to provoke that reaction.

 

You are 90% correct BEFORE team damage removed. But it's different now.



ThisVehicleHasHadIt #13 Posted 11 August 2019 - 05:58 PM

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I haven't been trolled much, but that's probably because I am still at tier 5 and 6, where I believe people don't take the game as seriously.

war4peace #14 Posted 11 August 2019 - 06:02 PM

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I got one today. My pimped Skoda T 27 with maxed view range was spotting on Malinovka and a Borsig pushed me repeatedly and with intent. The bush was large enough to accommodate both of us. In the end I pushed forward, left him behind, got 4 kills IIRC, 2500 damage, and he got to shoot an enemy once, for 400-something damage.

Murro_the_One #15 Posted 11 August 2019 - 06:04 PM

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and btw, ARTY WIL LSTILL STUN YOU....wg, you are such incompetent company that even the simple thing like friendly fire you cant do right

iuytr #16 Posted 11 August 2019 - 06:08 PM

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View Postr00barb, on 11 August 2019 - 05:40 PM, said:

 

Send the replay to Support on a physics abuse ticket. You won't see what action has been taken due to privacy rules but apparently they're taking those reports seriously and acting on them.

 

Unless, of course, you've acted like a [male chicken] as well and you don't want Support to be even-handed in their punishment.

 

Why have you snipped the part of my post that says "replay to WoT"?



r00barb #17 Posted 11 August 2019 - 06:08 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 11 August 2019 - 04:48 PM, said:

They need to make new report functions for pushing now. So it doesn't drown in all the butthurt reports under "unsportsmanlike conduct" so WG can more easily see who does that or not more often.

 

I'd agree if reports were seen to be effective. The only reports that appear to be acted on right now are for inappropriate names, though I accept that if such reports were effective the number of arty players being banned for trying to play the game would sky-rocket.

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View Postiuytr, on 11 August 2019 - 05:08 PM, said:

Why have you snipped the part of my post that says "replay to WoT"?

 

It wasn't there when I clicked the 'quote' button and my battle was ready to start before I'd finished my post so I came back to it after.



iuytr #18 Posted 11 August 2019 - 06:12 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 11 August 2019 - 05:48 PM, said:

 

They need to make new report functions for pushing now. So it doesn't drown in all the butthurt reports under "unsportsmanlike conduct" so WG can more easily see who does that or not more often.

 

I submitted 4 tickets with replays last night. All 4 seem to have been acted on, as when I try and look up the offenders they are now renamed_userxxxxxxxxx



Murro_the_One #19 Posted 11 August 2019 - 06:26 PM

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View Postiuytr, on 11 August 2019 - 06:12 PM, said:

 

I submitted 4 tickets with replays last night. All 4 seem to have been acted on, as when I try and look up the offenders they are now renamed_userxxxxxxxxx


oh please..

they dont rename general offenders, they rename people who break the rules of using stupid names



shikaka9 #20 Posted 11 August 2019 - 06:41 PM

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View PostRamRaid90, on 11 August 2019 - 03:53 PM, said:

My experience is that if you're getting trolled alot, generally you'll be doing something wrong to provoke that reaction.

 

yeah you didnt die for trolling player, so he couldnt get better result :playing:


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