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LIL_Veky #1 Posted 20 August 2019 - 11:51 PM

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Change my mind

xx984 #2 Posted 20 August 2019 - 11:55 PM

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no, it is

Nitro_Tank #3 Posted 21 August 2019 - 12:00 AM

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I don't think anybody could be convincing enough to turn that OP BS tank into a turd

barison1 #4 Posted 21 August 2019 - 12:08 AM

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chieftain/t95 is pretty mediocre

 

just depends which chieftain you are talking about as there multiple :trollface:



vasilinhorulezz #5 Posted 21 August 2019 - 01:00 AM

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Counter it with the OP British lights.

xx984 #6 Posted 21 August 2019 - 02:11 AM

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View Postvasilinhorulezz, on 21 August 2019 - 12:00 AM, said:

Counter it with the OP British lights.

 

 their battleship guns counter the chief so easily :hiding::hiding:



Balc0ra #7 Posted 21 August 2019 - 02:33 AM

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View Postxx984, on 21 August 2019 - 02:11 AM, said:

 

 their battleship guns counter the chief so easily :hiding::hiding:

 

Oh yeah. I feel that on them so far. It will take me 90 seconds to kill it.

 

Well tbh it feels more like this on each one of them so far "clip is taken from randoms". The long aim time, the reload for that huge alpha. But the time you're ready to fire on the Chieftain...the fight is over, or you're dead.

Spoiler

 


Edited by Balc0ra, 21 August 2019 - 02:34 AM.


RamRaid90 #8 Posted 21 August 2019 - 05:10 AM

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Sooo...you just needed a little attention here?

 

Or you genuinely thought that you were the only person thinking that?

 

Anyone with any clue about WoT can see the Cheiftain is broken as hell, as is the 279e



lnfernaI #9 Posted 21 August 2019 - 05:32 AM

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View Postxx984, on 21 August 2019 - 03:11 AM, said:

 

 their battleship guns counter the chief so easily :hiding::hiding:

the only battleship gun that matters in this game, is that of SU-100Y.



Cobra6 #10 Posted 21 August 2019 - 07:42 AM

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It's broken/OP.

Any tank with invulnerable armor and no viable weak spots is broken/OP.

 

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LincolnTank #11 Posted 21 August 2019 - 08:15 AM

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Oh, another Chieftain is OP post - how original

chainreact0r #12 Posted 21 August 2019 - 08:22 AM

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The chieftain has a 2 pixel cupola that is easier to hit than you might think. Plus, people who don't eat crayons know that an easy way to counter a chieftain is to rush over the ridge right after he fired to shoot him in the paper hull.

The 279 has 210 mm (HESH pennable) cupola. At close range, it's just as easy to hit as an E-75's cupola.

Their main weaknesses though, are arty focus and HE spamming/autoloader yoloing jealous bots.

So iz belans komrad.



TankkiPoju #13 Posted 21 August 2019 - 08:38 AM

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View Postchainreact0r, on 21 August 2019 - 08:22 AM, said:

Plus, people who don't eat crayons know that an easy way to counter a chieftain is to rush over the ridge right after he fired to shoot him in the paper hull.

 

Yeah I tried this but the Chieftain's team mates shot me for some reason. Why couldn't they just not shoot me.

 

 



chainreact0r #14 Posted 21 August 2019 - 09:47 AM

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 21 August 2019 - 08:38 AM, said:

 

Yeah I tried this but the Chieftain's team mates shot me for some reason. Why couldn't they just not shoot me.

 

 

How very inconsiderate of them. The highest level of dishonor displayed there. Redliners shooting over exposed tanks is simply disgraceful.

As a side note, a 47%er killing himself just to get one or two shots into a chieftain is probably the best way he can contribute to his team's victory chances.



tajj7 #15 Posted 21 August 2019 - 09:59 AM

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Yeh it is, its basically just a better SC.

 

Though from observing some people who clearly got them in the auction and are at best above average players, it's far less forgiving than tanks like the 430U, Bobject, Maus etc. 

 

And I don't think anywhere near as OP as the 279e is, especially for randoms.

 

It is probably not that problematic for randoms, way more problematic in ranked and CWs. 



SuperOlsson #16 Posted 21 August 2019 - 10:01 AM

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The Chieftain is weak and easy to counter, (e.g. an IS-7 shooting HE will always do ~300 damage to it). It is only OP when playing it's strengths, which is about 4-5% of the time, tops (I promise!).

 

Spoiler
 

Edited by SuperOlsson, 21 August 2019 - 10:03 AM.


G01ngToxicCommand0 #17 Posted 21 August 2019 - 10:32 AM

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View PostLIL_Veky, on 20 August 2019 - 11:51 PM, said:

Change my mind


There is no Chieftain in WoT for PC - complaints about the Chieftain should be posted on the console website.



chainreact0r #18 Posted 21 August 2019 - 10:43 AM

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View Posttajj7, on 21 August 2019 - 09:59 AM, said:

 

Though from observing some people who clearly got them in the auction and are at best above average players, it's far less forgiving than tanks like the 430U, Bobject, Maus etc. 

 

Exactly this. 

In the last few weeks i saw so many 51% guys do less than 2k average dmg in it. They usually had less dpg than in tech tree tanks like 277 and 430u.

The high amount of people who bought it form the auction and who are unable to play it properly, resulted in a really funny situation.

Daki was trying to 3-mark it on the wot contributor account, and during one session, he kept acing it every other game. When i got it, 1250 base xp was 2nd class, but when Daki played it it was enough for an ace.

Funny how when bots get their hands on it, we can see that the overall performance dropped even below the performance of a 430U.



tajj7 #19 Posted 21 August 2019 - 10:56 AM

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View Postchainreact0r, on 21 August 2019 - 09:43 AM, said:

Exactly this. 

In the last few weeks i saw so many 51% guys do less than 2k average dmg in it. They usually had less dpg than in tech tree tanks like 277 and 430u.

The high amount of people who bought it form the auction and who are unable to play it properly, resulted in a really funny situation.

Daki was trying to 3-mark it on the wot contributor account, and during one session, he kept acing it every other game. When i got it, 1250 base xp was 2nd class, but when Daki played it it was enough for an ace.

Funny how when bots get their hands on it, we can see that the overall performance dropped even below the performance of a 430U.

 

Yeh I have seen some in some terrible positions and at the end of the day it its hull is weak so out of hull down positions its going to be way weaker.

 

It's still OP -

 

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But the 279e on there kind of puts it in perspective, obviously both the 279e and T95/FV4201 will not have a mass load of of owners/players so that is worth bearing in mind whne looking at that graph, but still.

 

The T95/FV4201 seems to give about 1% more than a 430U, so makes people overperform by about 2% above their overall win rate.

 

But the 279e is giving players like 7-8% above their overall win rate. 



4nt #20 Posted 21 August 2019 - 11:21 AM

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OP, you don't seem to know how these threads work- you actually need to make a controversial statement.

But then again, you didn't actually intend to... 4/10.




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