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[PhantomMajor]

would using this tank as a sniper, shooting at range with bino's, camo net etc, work better, perhaps partially hiding behind a rock or building?

[Heavymetalistot68]

I also tried camouflage to hide in the bushes and shoot with high-explosive shells for farming. But with this inaccurate weapon and slow reload, you're just ridiculous. And they all swear, they still expect a heavy tank in the team, not an idiot in the bushes ...

It turns out that buying German premium tanks is just stupid.

They are too weak for their level, and they are allowed to play only at higher levels ...

My old premium tanks are no longer playable.

I tried playing with Tiger 131 today, twice 6-7-8, I gave up, I'm just ridiculous with this weak slow tank ...

I tried five times and with VK 4503 - 8/7 - 8/7 - 8/7 - 8/7/6 - 8/7 .... I gave up, it's an absolute waste of time ...

Unfortunately when I started playing years ago I didn't know it was a Russian game. I started developing German tanks because I knew they were amazing engineering achievements. The Russians hate German tanks, I know it because in the army I served with a Russian tank under Russian command ... And playing with German tanks in a Russian game is the most stupid thing in the world! Oh no, there is something more stupid - buy a strong German tank designed by the Russians!

 

[Heavymetalistot68]

Today, while playing with my E50M / trer10 / I met a KV4 and decided to test it. My gold shells (HEAT) drilled 330mm.

 

 

The picture shows the profile of his front armored plate/180мм/, I deliberately aimed at the flat section under the gun.

The first time I hit the shield of his cannon, as I expected - he didn't even scratch it ... the distance is 36 m

 

 

As he backed away, I hit him - it cost me 342HP+track! Here I can clearly see where I am aiming.

 

 

I shot again with a gold HEAT, instead of penetrated his armor, a trace appeared like a regular armor-piercing projectile. Here you can clearly see the traces of my first shot on the shield, and the second one below where I wanted it, where the armor was exactly 180mm.

 

 

This is the situation in this game, it doesn't matter the thickness of the armor, nor how much the projectile penetrates, it only matters which nation the tank is from. If it is Russian it is invulnerable, if it is German everyone is up to the hole where they want. With those projectiles I couldn't break through the armor of the KV4, I penetrate the front armor of the Mouse/tier10/ turret whenever I want.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[xx984]

Heavymetalistot68, on 12 December 2019 - 08:57 PM, said:

Today, while playing with my E50M / trer10 / I met a KV4 and decided to test it. My gold shells (HEAT) drilled 330mm.

 

 

The picture shows the profile of his front armored plate/180мм/, I deliberately aimed at the flat section under the gun.

The first time I hit the shield of his cannon, as I expected - he didn't even scratch it ... the distance is 36 m

 

 

As he backed away, I hit him - it cost me 342HP+track! Here I can clearly see where I am aiming.

 

 

I shot again with a gold HEAT, instead of penetrated his armor, a trace appeared like a regular armor-piercing projectile. Here you can clearly see the traces of my first shot on the shield, and the second one below where I wanted it, where the armor was exactly 180mm.

 

 

This is the situation in this game, it doesn't matter the thickness of the armor, nor how much the projectile penetrates, it only matters which nation the tank is from. If it is Russian it is invulnerable, if it is German everyone is up to the hole where they want. With those projectiles I couldn't break through the armor of the KV4, I penetrate the front armor of the Mouse/tier10/ turret whenever I want.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

KV-4 be like

 

[RaxipIx]

Heavymetalistot68, on 12 December 2019 - 09:57 PM, said:

Today, while playing with my E50M / trer10 / I met a KV4 and decided to test it. My gold shells (HEAT) drilled 330mm.

 

 

The picture shows the profile of his front armored plate/180мм/, I deliberately aimed at the flat section under the gun.

The first time I hit the shield of his cannon, as I expected - he didn't even scratch it ... the distance is 36 m

 

 

As he backed away, I hit him - it cost me 342HP+track! Here I can clearly see where I am aiming.

 

 

I shot again with a gold HEAT, instead of penetrated his armor, a trace appeared like a regular armor-piercing projectile. Here you can clearly see the traces of my first shot on the shield, and the second one below where I wanted it, where the armor was exactly 180mm.

 

 

This is the situation in this game, it doesn't matter the thickness of the armor, nor how much the projectile penetrates, it only matters which nation the tank is from. If it is Russian it is invulnerable, if it is German everyone is up to the hole where they want. With those projectiles I couldn't break through the armor of the KV4, I penetrate the front armor of the Mouse/tier10/ turret whenever I want.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Heat does bad against spaced armor.

[Desyatnik_Pansy]

Heavymetalistot68, on 12 December 2019 - 08:57 PM, said:

I shot again with a gold HEAT, instead of penetrated his armor, a trace appeared like a regular armor-piercing projectile. Here you can clearly see the traces of my first shot on the shield, and the second one below where I wanted it, where the armor was exactly 180mm.

 

 

It's poorly represented on the visual model, but armour wise there's a small band of armour around where you're hitting that's effectively ridiculously thick. Why? Beats me, but it's there.

 

Might I ask by the way why you would choose to ram a KV-4?

Edited by Desyatnik_Pansy, 13 December 2019 - 12:38 AM.

[Heavymetalistot68]

You don't need to copy everything in my post to say what you think, the pages are getting too big..

The armor is ridiculously thick on the gun shield, you showed it, I got there the first time. At the second shot its armor is 180mm.
I have made it very clear, you do not need to think about it.

Yes, I tried the ram, it was moving backwards, and my front armor was 150mm, I weighed 63.11t and I was moving at high speed. As I wrote, I decided to take a test.

 

These days the tank is on sale. As I have already written, then the matchmaker is favorable, playing mostly in level 8. I played 25 battles in three days. The tank had armor, I often heard a ricochet, the gun was relatively accurate. Of course it's like a German tank. On the fourth day, the Christmas miracle is over! The armor softened, the gun became absolutely useless, and the matchmaker sent me to war only at 8-9-10 levels. I only managed to play 3 battles and canned the tank in the garage until its next sale.
That's what the absurd hits are all about.

The distance is 400m, I am hidden behind a rock, I show up and immediately hide, even before the red light comes on. However, the Su 101 started to punch me with ordinary AP shells. Of course, with first shot, it hit my commander's tower!

 

 

Then the T95, with the AP, evaporated some of my side * armor * and penetrated the CT. The projectile had to ricochet on the side armor impact. But there is no armor here, it's cheese. It's not really cheese, the tank would be very light and maneuverable. It's lead to be slow!

 

 

Then the SU 101 was able to penetrate my front armor, at this point the effective armor is 400mm! The projectile first went through my gun! Its AP penetrates 258mm, at a distance of 400m probably below 250mm. And he did not even try to switch to gold shells, knowing that there was a weak tank against him , without armor!

 

 

 

Finally the artillery intervened and took me 361HP without realizing that I was hidden behind a rock. Here is my position, you can see the incredible projectile trajectory. And there is no direct hit, the crater is next to the tank. However - complete 361 HP! But when the WG decided this tank was weak and everyone hit it, it didn't matter what the armor thickness chart said. It doesn't matter that you are hidden behind a rock. Your role is to be an easy target.
This is the role of German tanks in a Russian game.

 

 

In short - they continue to cheat people and sell this fake tank. The cottage is lying to them that it is powerful. But I'm not saying don't buy it! Buy it all! And only then will you understand what I was trying to explain …

 

I forgot to warn you, beware of KV2, a terrifying tier 6 Russian tank! See what damage it did to my turret, full 362 HP with high-explosive projectile ....

 

 

And another thing, if you see a T 34 85 / tier6 /, it makes no sense to shoot gold at it, even in the back. This is a legendary Russian tank, and the game protects it from various annoying German tanks trying to sneakily shoot him in the back

The distance is 118m, I loaded the APCR and shoot. The time is 10.25. In the second photo - 2 sec later he stands there as if I didn't shoot him ....
I add this to mention the reliable and accurate gun of this tank!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited by Heavymetalistot68, 29 December 2019 - 09:14 PM.

[Maroko1337]

"how dare you ? how dare you critic the top tank of the advent calendar ? Are you not aware of the rarity of that tank even if WG tried to sell that tank twice before christmas ? Have you not seen the winrate of that tank ?"

 

But but but we are whiners, crying and spoiled kids...we just want a SUPER SUPER SUPER OP tank.

 

 

wait for the defenders of that tank they are coming

 

[El_Cabanos]

 

For me god tank  , if player is god tank is too simple

I have this tank  a lot of 4-5k dmg battles

Edited by El_Cabanos, 29 December 2019 - 09:30 PM.

[Heavymetalistot68]

The fact that El_Cabanos is pleased with the tank means that the matchmaker loves him. The cunning matchmaker loved me too, but only for three days, after that he started trying to kill me

Unfortunately, I am not a spoiled child for a long time, I have been a mechanical engineer for 25 years. And when they sell me a product with certain technical characteristics and then it turns out to be an imitation, fake product, I feel cheated. It is actually a crime to sell counterfeit goods.

German engineers were not fools. According to WG, they were fools and made non-technological turrets with welds. And the Russian engineers were geniuses and made solid turrets of cast steel. In fact, the opposite is true, cast steel turrets are weaker due to the formation of voids and slag in the metal. Simply cast steel domes are cheaper. According to Russian military doctrine, the life of a tank in battle is no more than 5 minutes. Therefore, cheap tanks in large quantities must be produced. But even a genius can't make a cheap but solid tank.
Here is a primitive drawing of the front armor of the turret, with the observed dimensions and proportions.

 

 

 

The weaknesses of the turret are the two red spots. To the left of the gun is another section only 250mm thick, where the machine gun opening is. In fact, it's a really great turret, as the announcer says in the promotional movie / time -1: 43 /.

No one can hit these small stretches while the tank is moving, even from close range. This is only possible with fraud. The SU 101 hit me from a distance of 400m! With the first shot!
This means that either the player is playing with mod, or that WG are scammers and helping him kill me. In both cases, this is not a fair play!

Or maybe it's a fair play in Russian. Russian tanks kill German tanks. Just as there is Russian roulette, so is Russian fair play.

It would have been really fun, but in this case I paid real money for a fake tank, and my consumer rights were violated.
 

 

 

 

Edited by Heavymetalistot68, 30 December 2019 - 05:51 PM.

[El_Cabanos]

Heavymetalistot68, on 30 December 2019 - 05:16 PM, said:

The fact that El_Cabanos is pleased with the tank means that the matchmaker loves him. The cunning matchmaker loved me too, but only for three days, after that he started trying to kill me

Unfortunately, I am not a spoiled child for a long time, I have been a mechanical engineer for 25 years. And when they sell me a product with certain technical characteristics and then it turns out to be an imitation, fake product, I feel cheated. It is actually a crime to sell counterfeit goods.

German engineers were not fools. According to WG, they were fools and made non-technological turrets with welds. And the Russian engineers were geniuses and made solid turrets of cast steel. In fact, the opposite is true, cast steel turrets are weaker due to the formation of voids and slag in the metal. Simply cast steel domes are cheaper. According to Russian military doctrine, the life of a tank in battle is no more than 5 minutes. Therefore, cheap tanks in large quantities must be produced. But even a genius can't make a cheap but solid tank.
Here is a primitive drawing of the front armor of the turret, with the observed dimensions and proportions.

 

 

 

The weaknesses of the turret are the two red spots. To the left of the gun is another section only 250mm thick, where the machine gun opening is. In fact, it's a really great turret, as the announcer says in the promotional movie / time -1: 43 /.

No one can hit these small stretches while the tank is moving, even from close range. This is only possible with fraud. The SU 101 hit me from a distance of 400m! With the first shot!
This means that either the player is playing with mod, or that WG are scammers and helping him kill me. In both cases, this is not a fair play!

Or maybe it's a fair play in Russian. Russian tanks kill German tanks. Just as there is Russian roulette, so is Russian fair play.

It would have been really fun, but in this case I paid real money for a fake tank, and my consumer rights were violated.
 

 

 

 

Your mechanical enginering is waste of time if you are bad player

I watch your stats its not impresive - you doo VK 1098 dmg per battle for 379 battles , when i have 80 battles 71 % win ratio and 1900 dmg per battle

You have a typical example - the battle tank alone will not win, because the driver is important

[Heavymetalistot68]

Very correctly, El_Cabanos, the player is important, not the tank. I constantly meet players like you who are protected by the game. I know very well where the big successes and the high ratings come from. You bought a lot of tanks, the game loves you, keep you safe if I shoot at you the missiles disappear or mysteriously surround you. I don't develop, I play a little bit, I play only with German tanks, I give a little money, so the game makes me a victim of people like you. So that they can then come here, show themselves a great accomplishment, and say - the tank is good, you are a bad player. That is what everyone knows, there is no point in posing as a great player. You just gave more money to WG. Your great successes are of no interest to anyone, discussed here * The gamescom Star *

When I wrote my previous post, I decided to take another final test. Fortunately, on the third game, I discovered an IS 3 and didn't have to spend a lot of time with this defective tank. The logo shows that he is an old player like me, so the only difference between us is that he plays with a Russian tank, me with a German tank.

From now on I specify - throughout the battle I shoot with gold, he with ordinary AP
With the first shot I hit it in the upper body plate, it was at a proper angle.
This is where the Russian fair play begins. He shoots with a simple AP and penetrated 500-600mm * armor *. Look at my drawing and you will find out what absurdity I am talking about.

It had to be a ricochet.

 

His second shot is even more absurd. Because I kept my commander's tower with my gun, it pierced the shield of the gun + 250mm armor on the turret. See where his gun is, and see where the new hole appeared - down. Typical forgery!

 

 

This is not my first fight with IS 3, and I know how to kill it - I penetrate the driver's hatch. But the game saved him from my first shot - the third manifestation of Russian fairplay.

 

My second shot at his hatch - a real fairy play! *the enemy was hit*

 

 

Here is my last shot, which very well shows where the great successes in this game come from. He has only 1% left HP, I shoot right in the center of his hatch, with the APCR. You didn't scratch it!

 

Here it is right after my shot - 1% HP!

 

Then I died. And this player was proud of how great he was! Win honestly because he's a better player, and his tank is a powerful Russian IS 3 tank!
This is not the right way to make me give a lot of money or buy a new Russian tank. I will no longer buy your stupid painted tanks.This game costs no more than 8 euros per month - the price of a premium account.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited by Heavymetalistot68, 02 January 2020 - 10:05 PM.

[Gremlin182]

I don't find any problem with German tanks but I am sorry its just too easy to make the claim that a Russian Company will automatically make their tanks better than German ones.

I have been interested in tanks and been fighting battles well before this company or even home computers have been around.

Problem with a lot of the later German tanks is that they were needlessly complicated over engineered and often unreliable and or impractical.

Whereas many of the Russian tanks were of necessity simple designs that were reliable and suited for their tasks.

 

That is not reflected in the game they have not made Russian tanks strong and German tanks weak they are just different and should be played differently.

Finding you do not like or do well in a particular nation or type does not always mean its the tank that's at fault.

 

btw rather an odd place to shoot a KV4 from the front I always go for the Cupola or lower plate assuming I can pen 200 mm and if I cannot I shouldn't be sitting in front of one.

 

 

 

[El_Cabanos]

"Heavymetalistot68"  go to the Hospital because you are Drunk

Nobody is protected i see a lot of players who have 50k - 100k battles and buy all premium tanks and still have very bad stats

Worst pathethic excuse yours own fault  i ever see

 

Edited by El_Cabanos, Yesterday, 07:15 PM.