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hasnainrakha57 #1 Posted 25 August 2019 - 07:29 PM

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Well,i would like to complain about e75 turret armor.

1)A vk75.45.02b fires a AP round which has 246mm pen goes through the front of my turret which is 250mm.
2)A ts-5 just before dying fires a AP round and it goes through the front my turret this what i felt about ts-5 saying about me"'There u go trashy german"'

 

Conclusion i should wear a Str*p club suit and camp with skorpions,strv and etc in  a heavy tank...

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heres the pic also 

 

Two times got penetrated with 150mm guns and my side craping was perfect but then i saw this meme on tank gg

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DaddysLittlePrincess #2 Posted 25 August 2019 - 07:32 PM

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The real meme is, if the rng is with you, you can pen e75 turrent with less than 100mm pen.

NUKLEAR_SLUG #3 Posted 25 August 2019 - 07:38 PM

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246mm only has to roll a couple percent high to go through 250mm tho so it's not exactly that much of a surprise.

hasnainrakha57 #4 Posted 25 August 2019 - 07:40 PM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 25 August 2019 - 06:38 PM, said:

246mm only has to roll a couple percent high to go through 250mm tho so it's not exactly that much of a surprise.

exactly then e75 heavy or rhm disguised in heavy tank? or maybe u can tell how i play it camp at back and lose and receive harsh words from player just look at me i am not even complaining about gold ammo 



Fibonachi #5 Posted 25 August 2019 - 07:44 PM

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Well, yes. The game uses early-1940s unfinished tank designs of Germany's tanks and matches that against tanks from the 1950-1960s.

Edited by Fibonachi, 25 August 2019 - 07:46 PM.


Dorander #6 Posted 25 August 2019 - 08:38 PM

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The VK4502B is an equal tier heavy to the E75 and has a slightly under 50% chance to penetrate your turret if it hits it frontally. That hardly makes the turret weak, there's absolutely no reason that you should be impervious to an equal tier tank. Of course there's the Russians but we all know their stalinium turrets are the subject of constant complaints.

 

The TS-5 is a tank destroyer and as such has higher penetration values that most others for its tier. It has 248mm pen so again a slightly less than 50% chance to penetrate your turret frontally. It also moves slowly and aims slowly but generally speaking going close-range firefight with a TD of 1 tier difference is a bad idea. Again, there's no reason why your turret should be impervious to TDs.

 

Fair warning though all the German heavies have this problem except maybe the VK1001P. E100, flat front turret that people can pen with AP but mostly reliably pen with prammo. Maus, same story, frontal hit to the turret cheeks even though they're still pretty solid against AP (from non-TDs). Playing these heavies involves baiting shots to your angled turret when they think you're turning to fire, you can't just sit behind a rock or building hiding your LFP and be impervious.



NekoPuffer_PPP #7 Posted 25 August 2019 - 09:57 PM

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"Camping" with the E75 is not a bad strat. It's German after all, a natural born sniper, :trollface: as shown here:

 

 

Over 5600 damage at +300m range. Replay link included.

 

Don't have to worry about turret armor if they can't see you.



Dorander #8 Posted 25 August 2019 - 11:42 PM

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 25 August 2019 - 08:57 PM, said:

"Camping" with the E75 is not a bad strat. It's German after all, a natural born sniper, :trollface: as shown here:

 

<snip vid>

 

Over 5600 damage at +300m range. Replay link included.

 

Don't have to worry about turret armor if they can't see you.

<snip gif>

 

Well yeah, that's what happens when you get Prok with a top tier heavy and the enemy team is stupid enough to massively cornercamp, giving up both the center and the hill in the process. Glad you had a good game but that enemy team was so much facepalm.



Dava_117 #9 Posted 26 August 2019 - 09:42 AM

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View Posthasnainrakha57, on 25 August 2019 - 07:29 PM, said:

Well,i would like to complain about e75 turret armor.

1)A vk75.45.02b fires a AP round which has 246mm pen goes through the front of my turret which is 250mm.
2)A ts-5 just before dying fires a AP round and it goes through the front my turret this what i felt about ts-5 saying about me"'There u go trashy german"'

 

Conclusion i should wear a Str*p club suit and camp with skorpions,strv and etc in  a heavy tank...

18:31 Added after 2 minute

heres the pic also 

 

Two times got penetrated with 150mm guns and my side craping was perfect but then i saw this meme on tank gg

 

2 days ago, was playing the VK100.01P and faced another VK100. Both we had the stock 105mm. I penned its 220 mm cupola with AP (nominal pen 200mm) and then failed with APCR (nominal pen 244mm). RNG can be such a good troll! 

 

To be fair, I have no problem with E75 turret, as soon as I have a sidescrape position, is that pixelshot just over the track that frustrate me. Looks like enemy can snapshot it trough the whole map, while I miss it 4 times in a row from less than 100m... ST-I is the only exception, but that tank is blessed by Stalin itself, so it doesn't count... :teethhappy:



NoobySkooby #10 Posted 26 August 2019 - 10:04 AM

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Odd thing is I had a good game in the Tiger 2, the other day, the E 75 I have been led to believe is a good tank, I get instantly wrecked in mine, so is it better than the Tiger 2?
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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 25 August 2019 - 09:57 PM, said:

"Camping" with the E75 is not a bad strat. It's German after all, a natural born sniper, :trollface: as shown here:

 

 

Over 5600 damage at +300m range. Replay link included.

 

Don't have to worry about turret armor if they can't see you.

Do you turn chat of, because camping in a heavy will bring much salt, but if it works might be something for me t try.


Edited by NoobySkooby, 26 August 2019 - 10:07 AM.


Bora_BOOM #11 Posted 26 August 2019 - 10:22 AM

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Buffing the turret on E75 would only mean that in the long term people will just load nothing but gold and pen you regardless. They do load the gold a lot already (last night I was in t10 game) and only WT shot me with AP from distance, but others like IS-7 and  Obj43U just spammed APCR although I am tier lower and don't have much dpm.

 

The thing is that with AP loaded which they would use to shoot your turret (and you still have a chance to block), you might make them shoot your hull by wiggling/turning your turret a bit - which might cause them to bounce. Yes, the turret front is kind of weak, but buffing that would make E75 the same as E100 - speshul ammo magnet (basically a HP pinata, if I may add).

 

vs 246 pen

 

vs 311 pen

 

The strong side of E75 is its gun that is so reliable that it makes it up for other stats. Use that to your advantage. I would like a bit stronger turret, but not until they rebalance the gold ammo (I hope WG will) so you can still hope to be shot at with regular ammo.



dan_dix #12 Posted 26 August 2019 - 10:45 AM

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View PostNoobySkooby, on 26 August 2019 - 10:04 AM, said:

 I get instantly wrecked in mine, so is it better than the Tiger 2?

Do you turn chat of, because camping in a heavy

 

E75 is miles ahead Tiger 2. Tiger 2 doesn't have neither meaningful alpha or meaningful armor, while also being slow and musshive.

 

With the E75 if you get instawrecked it means you are being too aggressive and not using its strenghts. You need to find a place where you can hide your sides and weakspots, and sidescrape properly, don't overangle. Also avoid getting bumrushed by lights or fast meds. Your tank turns faster than the turret so use both to traverse your gun. In a strong position you can block reliably while dealing consistently damage, somethig the tiger 2 only dreams of

 

With Tiger 2 it makes sense to camp and snipe, you can't do much else. With the E75 you'd do it more for memes



Dorander #13 Posted 26 August 2019 - 02:50 PM

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View PostNoobySkooby, on 26 August 2019 - 09:04 AM, said:

Do you turn chat of, because camping in a heavy will bring much salt, but if it works might be something for me t try.

 

Watch the replay, he wasn't camping, the worst that can be levelled at him is that he was a bit undecisive at the start (movementwise anyway, he took a few iffy shots :P). He drove his E75 to the center square next to the tracks which is a strong position for a heavy to be in and where you NEED a decently armoured tank. After helping his team clear the hillside the outnumbered cornercampers of the enemy team he took a lot of shots of opportunity from the center which was again the right thing to do, some target was nearly constantly lit up, he was top tier so he did good damage and you simply don't suicide drive your semi-slow heavy across the open field of Prok to 8 bushcampers, not while you have one of the best guns on your team and better spotters alive.






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