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Lagalaza #1 Posted 29 August 2019 - 09:09 AM

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Hi all,

 

I see a lot of posts about how unlucky people are and how they have these massive losing streaks. No-one ever posts about winning streaks. Well, I thought i'd post this about my day yesterday.

 

68% Win Rate which for me is unheard of. The streak started with the end of my grind in the SU-100M1. 4 wins without doing much other than die!! This was followed by 10 wins in a row in the T67 while trying to complete the grind. Guess what, grind completed. Worth pointing out that at this point I had boosters running as well!! Then 2 wins in the IS followed, finally, by a loss. 15 wins in a row!!! Didn't even play that well in the T67 and SU most of the time and just got carried through by some good players. It wasn't all stomps either, there were some close ones.

 

How about your win streaks? Let's post some positive stories for once.. :)

 

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Laatikkomafia #2 Posted 29 August 2019 - 09:12 AM

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Haven't played WoT in over two months.

 

A 60-day+ win streak.



Bora_BOOM #3 Posted 29 August 2019 - 10:13 AM

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17 out of 17 straight. 



malachi6 #4 Posted 29 August 2019 - 10:39 AM

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There are so many posts claiming the game is rigged because of a string of losses.  Good to see a counter to that.  People forget that their average score is arrived at via a series of outliers.  I can guarantee if I play 100 battles I will not win 51.26 of them,

 

Good for you guys on the good side of the curve.



TankkiPoju #5 Posted 29 August 2019 - 10:58 AM

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I was the #11 player in July on the entire EU server, based on winrate which was 73.81%

 

All skill of course, and not lucky at all. It was 100% solo though.


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Lagalaza #6 Posted 29 August 2019 - 11:01 AM

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View PostBora_BOOM, on 29 August 2019 - 09:13 AM, said:

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17 out of 17 straight. 

 

Nice one. Gives me a target to beat!!  Guess I'll have to up my game tp match that average dmg and exp though... :izmena:

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 29 August 2019 - 09:58 AM, said:

I was the #11 player in July on the entire EU server, based on winrate which was 73.81%

 

All skill of course, and not lucky at all. It was 100% solo though.

 

Well played sir, well played indeed.



kaneloon #7 Posted 29 August 2019 - 11:02 AM

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View PostBora_BOOM, on 29 August 2019 - 09:13 AM, said:

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17 out of 17 straight. 

 

I had the same number of wins as a maximum.

Standard account btw ;)



Lagalaza #8 Posted 29 August 2019 - 11:03 AM

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View Postmalachi6, on 29 August 2019 - 09:39 AM, said:

There are so many posts claiming the game is rigged because of a string of losses.  Good to see a counter to that.  People forget that their average score is arrived at via a series of outliers.  I can guarantee if I play 100 battles I will not win 51.26 of them,

 

Good for you guys on the good side of the curve.


 I've had my losing streaks too. One of my first ever posts was to ask if losing loads in a row was normal!!

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View Postkaneloon, on 29 August 2019 - 10:02 AM, said:

 

I had the same number of wins as a maximum.

Standard account btw ;)

 

But according to all the posts on here, you only get win streaks in premium tanks with premium account just after you bought it......... :D

 

They never occur in T67, SU-100M1 and IS tanks...................

 

Well done on the win streak.



FritzSpiegal #9 Posted 29 August 2019 - 11:59 AM

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View Postmalachi6, on 29 August 2019 - 10:39 AM, said:

There are so many posts claiming the game is rigged because of a string of losses.  Good to see a counter to that.  People forget that their average score is arrived at via a series of outliers.  I can guarantee if I play 100 battles I will not win 51.26 of them,

 

Good for you guys on the good side of the curve.

Personally I think these long win or lose statistics are part of the problem. Recently my losing streak dropped my overall percentage by @ 0.1% ( 48.54 to 48.39 and that's on 20K games). 

 

Now I'm going the other way where very risky shot hits and I am winning continually 7 out of 9 yesterday and 4 out of 4 so far today.  

 

I accept that "random" means this can happen but so often it is in blocks of wins or lose that it makes me doubt that there aren't other factors involved.



Balc0ra #10 Posted 29 August 2019 - 12:05 PM

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View PostLagalaza, on 29 August 2019 - 11:03 AM, said:

But according to all the posts on here, you only get win streaks in premium tanks with premium account just after you bought it......... :D

 

Well... one premium that comes to mind is the T28 F30. That won its first 18 games. And had an 90% WR after 20. Tho Bulldog also sticks out from back in the day. 5 losses in a row, to then win the next 15 games in a row.  There are a few streaks like that, that comes to mind that have 10 in a row etc, much like 10 losses in a row. But only one of them are early in the screen folder for me to bother looking past 3K images :P 

 



Geoffrey_Ironfist #11 Posted 29 August 2019 - 12:12 PM

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I've had a day with a 5994 WoT rating and 35% winrate after 68 battles. I am now looking forward to the day I will have a 65% winrate and a 2000 WoT rating after 68 battles. I will keep you posted.

Sirebellus #12 Posted 29 August 2019 - 12:38 PM

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View PostGeoffrey_Ironfist, on 29 August 2019 - 12:12 PM, said:

I've had a day with a BLAH BLAH  WoT rating and BLAH BLAH winrate after 68 battles.

 

68 battles in a day ?
No wonder you lost a few, at 7 minutes a battle that's like having an 8 hour a day job... tiredness, loss of concentration and just lack of interest will have contributed to your results !

Onto the main topic, as I have said before on this forum when people whinge about losing streaks, my longest losing streak is 12 games... but I know that's okay because my longest winning streak is 14 games...



Geoffrey_Ironfist #13 Posted 29 August 2019 - 12:53 PM

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View PostSirebellus, on 29 August 2019 - 12:38 PM, said:

 

68 battles in a day ?
No wonder you lost a few, at 7 minutes a battle that's like having an 8 hour a day job... tiredness, loss of concentration and just lack of interest will have contributed to your results !

 

How was I losing my concentration with a WoT rating of 5994 for those 68 battles?

 

Average battle duration is a subject for another topic.


Edited by Geoffrey_Ironfist, 29 August 2019 - 12:56 PM.


Bora_BOOM #14 Posted 29 August 2019 - 01:16 PM

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The best streak I had (and I am talking about continuous battles for a month or more) was when we had a clan competition ended in January this year.

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Anyhow, I was playing almost nothing but light tanks (AMX 13-57, Type 64 and a Chaffe) rushing ahead and being aggressive AF. That made me not only kill lots of artas, spot a lot of tanks for allies and playing on the edge, but apparently lead my team to victory much more than I do usually. What I got eventually was above 60% winrate in all of those tanks during that period. Yes, those are good tanks, especially type, but for an average Joe getting 60%-63% winrate in about 400-600 battles in light tanks is amazing.

 

What I am trying to point out is that streaks do exist, but to which extent is influenced a lot by what and how you are playing. My stats in those tanks are still good enough, but around 3-4% less than during the competition when I had more win streaks and better results. The point is that although my contribution wasnt direct by doing a lot of damage and lots of kills, but assisting my team to perform better, even if it wasn't that obvious. For the same reason, when one is losing there must not be an obvious reason why is his performance not helping and why do losses come "in batches".


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Lagalaza #15 Posted 29 August 2019 - 01:42 PM

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I think there are many contributing factors to streaks, whether win or lose. Luck and random is part of that with team make-up and RNG. but there is also how good your tank is, whether it suits the way you play, stock grinds, which map you get with which tank, how tired you are, interuptions, how your opponents are playing in each battle (are they having a good day?), etc. etc..

 

So many variables.....


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spidre #16 Posted 29 August 2019 - 01:55 PM

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I have had this suspicion that being in a losing streak after a winning streak is a punishment of some sort.

Geoffrey_Ironfist #17 Posted 29 August 2019 - 02:43 PM

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View PostBora_BOOM, on 29 August 2019 - 01:16 PM, said:

The best streak I had (and I am talking about continuous battles for a month or more) was when we had a clan competition ended in January this year.

 

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The point is that although my contribution wasnt direct by doing a lot of damage and lots of kills, but assisting my team to perform better, even if it wasn't that obvious. For the same reason, when one is losing there must not be an obvious reason why is his performance not helping and why do losses come "in batches".

 

You seem to be making an interesting point there, that in addition to randomness it may be that on days of winning streaks you play certain tanks in a way that suits your style and the specific tanks. I have the feeling that sometimes I have bad days when I am trying to complete a silly mission in a tank I do not really like.

 

I also have tanks whose winrate does not correlate with win8 at all. The way I interpret this is that some tanks do not suit the current meta. I get this extreme winrate/win8 mismatch with TDs at tier V and below where battles tend to be fast and one-sided.

 

Also on some days winrate may be perhaps influenced by a particular mission for that particular day. Then, battles may go in a way that do not play to the strengths of that particular tank you have decided to play.

 

Sadly there is so much chaotic randomness, it is probably not obvious what the meta is on particular tiers on a particular day so that you choose the right tank to play.



Bora_BOOM #18 Posted 29 August 2019 - 02:53 PM

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What I am thinking is when you win 10 battles in a row at least in one you must have done well, well enough to make it a win. So instead 5 won, 1 lost and then 4 won you have straight 10. Vice versa, in 10 losses you might have one battle where you could have done better enough to make it a win. Cutting long streaks with one battle does not make it much different in the long term or stat-wise, but it is significant for the bias when you look at a streak which got twice longer than it could/should have. It is clearly obvious that with more skill you shorten the loss streaks as well that with bad skills you can make losing streaks longer.

Desyatnik_Pansy #19 Posted 29 August 2019 - 02:57 PM

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It may not be an exact streak of games, but my T95 At 80 Battles is sitting at a WR Of 81.25% and that's for the most part solo. There was a period of like 14 Games though where I platooned with two friends in two Tortoises respectively, which considering we won almost every battle (seriously, slow as hell but you're basically an unstoppable force) may have contributed to it being that high. :P

Lagalaza #20 Posted 29 August 2019 - 03:18 PM

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View PostDesyatnik_Pansy, on 29 August 2019 - 01:57 PM, said:

It may not be an exact streak of games, but my T95 At 80 Battles is sitting at a WR Of 81.25% and that's for the most part solo. There was a period of like 14 Games though where I platooned with two friends in two Tortoises respectively, which considering we won almost every battle (seriously, slow as hell but you're basically an unstoppable force) may have contributed to it being that high. :P

 

Two Tortoises and a T95 is one hell of a platoon.... Not much chance with penning that lot. You'd need a lot of help from Arty!!!






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