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Poll: 110 VS IS-3 (49 members have cast votes)

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Is the 110 comparable in competitive formats to the IS-3?

  1. Yes! (10 votes [20.41%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 20.41%

  2. No! (33 votes [67.35%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 67.35%

  3. I have no idea. (6 votes [12.24%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 12.24%

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The_Naa #41 Posted 30 August 2019 - 12:35 PM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 30 August 2019 - 12:31 PM, said:

 

Maybe some peace of mind when you know that both are soviet. :)

 

That blueprint is of the IS-2U, a transitional design between the IS-2 and the IS-3/IS-4. Pavel Isakov, the same guy who came up with Object 257, Object 770 (more or less a 277) and the weird looking Object 757.

 

yeah, now i remember, its also in the info about the tank ingame.

 

''From the mid-1940s to the 1950s, Soviet engineers attempted to modernize the IS-2 tank. The IS-2U variant, developed in November 1944, was conceived to have a reinforced frontal hull with a plate configuration resembling that of the IS-3. In the mid-1950s the design project was passed to China and became the basis for further Chinese tank development.''


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View Post8126Jakobsson, on 29 August 2019 - 03:38 PM, said:

 

That's still a thing? 

 

It's actually quite funny to do when someone is circling you flanking you in a heavy with good side armour that you basically give them an angled reverse side scrape shot and they often shoot that over shooting the rear armour.

 

Skill does it quite a lot, sort of wiggles the rear of the tank at the person presenting what looks like a flat ish side angle, then turns it in and the people bounce. 

 

On topics IS-2 > 110, IS-3 is still a very strong tier 8 heavy if you know what you are doing but I would reckon the Polish tier 8 is probably a better version now. 

 

But I also always liked the 110 as well, still a capable tank, also leads a to a decent tier 9 and a good tier 10 in the 5A. 



LordMuffin #43 Posted 30 August 2019 - 02:08 PM

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View PostThe_Naa, on 30 August 2019 - 12:28 PM, said:

Spoiler

 

9.59 x 5 = 47.95 seconds.

 

12.75 x 4 = 51 seconds.

 

so the IS-3 will be dead before it has reloaded it last shell it needs to kill that 110.

 

252U needs 4 shots as well with 14.38 second base reload so it takes it 57.52 seconds.

and it takes 57.54 seconds for the 110 to reload its 6th shell.

 

Edit* you can perma track any tank with the 110 if they did not invest in repair time.

As you know,  you won't continues shoot at each other.

the IS-3 will go back for reload.

So 110 will have to commit forward to use dpm.

 

If 4+ IS-3 are fighter.  First 110 will be deleted without shooting at all.



The_Naa #44 Posted 30 August 2019 - 02:23 PM

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View PostLordMuffin, on 30 August 2019 - 02:08 PM, said:

As you know,  you won't continues shoot at each other.

the IS-3 will go back for reload.

So 110 will have to commit forward to use dpm.

 

If 4+ IS-3 are fighter.  First 110 will be deleted without shooting at all.


depends on the map and what the FC has in mind.

on open maps or where you can get on top of the enemy immediately the DPM can work for you but in city maps alpha usually wins.



MarcoStrapone #45 Posted 30 August 2019 - 03:27 PM

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it even better, only prob is the gun depresion.

The_Naa #46 Posted 30 August 2019 - 03:45 PM

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View PostMarcoStrapone, on 30 August 2019 - 03:27 PM, said:

it even better, only prob is the gun depresion.


its amazing that a Chinese tank is beating a Russian tank in gun depression :teethhappy:



CmdRatScabies #47 Posted 30 August 2019 - 04:03 PM

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View PostThe_Naa, on 30 August 2019 - 12:28 PM, said:

so the IS-3 will be dead before it has reloaded it last shell it needs to kill that 110.

Yes but the 110 will miss and shoot the dirt from 10 feet away.



The_Naa #48 Posted 30 August 2019 - 04:39 PM

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 30 August 2019 - 04:03 PM, said:

Yes but the 110 will miss and shoot the dirt from 10 feet away.


that because you don't believe in it.

Chinese tanks need love, faith and dedication to work.

if you lack in even 1 of these aspects you will fail.

110 stock grind was horrible for me and i lost faith in it.

but after PPP's wise words i gave it a go again and restore that faith.

now its in my top 5 favourite tanks :)



CmdRatScabies #49 Posted 30 August 2019 - 04:43 PM

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View PostThe_Naa, on 30 August 2019 - 04:39 PM, said:

Chinese tanks need love, faith and dedication to work.

And 5 minutes aiming.  Never hit a snap shot in it.  By the time it's aimed the target has shot you & buggered off.



The_Naa #50 Posted 30 August 2019 - 04:48 PM

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 30 August 2019 - 04:43 PM, said:

And 5 minutes aiming.  Never hit a snap shot in it.  By the time it's aimed the target has shot you & buggered off.

View PostThe_Naa, on 30 August 2019 - 04:39 PM, said:


that because you don't believe in it.

Chinese tanks need love, faith and dedication to work.

if you lack in even 1 of these aspects you will fail.

110 stock grind was horrible for me and i lost faith in it.

but after PPP's wise words i gave it a go again and restore that faith.

now its in my top 5 favourite tanks :)

 

Edit* also the very next game that i played after posting.

http://wotreplays.eu...81fe6052c0c882f

have a looksie. :)

 

later Edit* that was a tiny crack when i managed to land a hit on that T-54 Mod 1 while moving :B

try to pull that off in your IS-3


Edited by The_Naa, 30 August 2019 - 05:39 PM.


CmdRatScabies #51 Posted 30 August 2019 - 06:00 PM

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View PostThe_Naa, on 30 August 2019 - 04:48 PM, said:

have a looksie. :)

Rather not.  At least not without a bottle of Jack Daniels handy.  Just looking at the 110 brings back horrible memories.



The_Naa #52 Posted 30 August 2019 - 06:08 PM

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 30 August 2019 - 06:00 PM, said:

Rather not.  At least not without a bottle of Jack Daniels handy.  Just looking at the 110 brings back horrible memories.

No problem, each to their own. :)



Solstad1069 #53 Posted 30 August 2019 - 06:50 PM

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Problem with 110 compared to IS3 in randoms is that even lower tiers just autopen you, when the IS3 always bounce a few shots that in the end is what win you the battles.
When i grinded 110 i always looked for spots where i could use the dpm, shoot targets that didnt look at me.

XxKuzkina_MatxX #54 Posted 30 August 2019 - 07:10 PM

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View PostThe_Naa, on 30 August 2019 - 07:48 PM, said:

 

Edit* also the very next game that i played after posting.

http://wotreplays.eu...81fe6052c0c882f

have a looksie. :)

 

later Edit* that was a tiny crack when i managed to land a hit on that T-54 Mod 1 while moving :B

try to pull that off in your IS-3

 

Nice replay and a smart player really.

 

  • 3 snaps, one of them are at very long range.
  • Good map awareness. Helping your Lorr and borsig was the right thing to do. The other two, the Mod1 and the Progetto, not a good move.
  • Nice and long coffee break at the wall! :)
  • My favorite move is blind shooting the TDs. I would've fired all 9 APs at that bush.
  • No food ==> sad crew! :(

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 30 August 2019 - 03:03 PM, said:

Yes but the 110 will miss and shoot the dirt from 10 feet away.

i marked you. i ment VS others. my mistake.



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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 30 August 2019 - 07:10 PM, said:

 

Nice replay and a smart player really.

 

  • 1. 3 snaps, one of them are at very long range.
  • 2. Good map awareness. Helping your Lorr and borsig was the right thing to do. The other two, the Mod1 and the Progetto, not a good move.
  • 3. Nice and long coffee break at the wall! :)
  • 4. My favorite move is blind shooting the TDs. I would've fired all 9 APs at that bush.
  • 5. No Onigiri ==> sad crew! :(

 

1. unfired shot always misses, a fired shot may hit. ;) 

2. i dont feel like i should start trading with that VK, those mediums looked like they were going to over commit and they looked like a little help would not hurt them.

3. exactly! and browsing up some good music as i ran out of prebattle time again. :harp:

4 i did land a shot on that Rhm,Borsing when i blind fired at him, Skorpion was a little trickier.

5. improved combat rations* i dont use food as i need to repair things, need my crew alive and i dont want to burn to death. (horrible way to go) maybe i should give them food when i need every single drop of that DPM.







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