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Lucatonee #1 Posted 01 September 2019 - 10:10 AM

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what do you say about that?below you have the pictures, please look and tell your opinion.

missing 2% plus of my win rate,now i have 50.33,and must have 53% according to this message recived 

 

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jack_timber #2 Posted 01 September 2019 - 10:22 AM

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Don't think it counts FL...

Vela_ZG #3 Posted 01 September 2019 - 10:25 AM

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I'm really interested to see what WG trolls have to say about this. I know already that everything in this game is false because of the way the game is set up. But new sh!t keeps popping up daily! Hahahaha! It's like a Black Adder, just brilliant! :D
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View Postjack_timber, on 01 September 2019 - 10:22 AM, said:

Don't think it counts FL...

You mean it counts the FL but doesn't show it in the list of victories? Of course, it's all good, working as intended! Hahahaha! Have some vodka comrad. Who's gonna bother themselves with triviality like that?



Long_Range_Sniper #4 Posted 01 September 2019 - 10:29 AM

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View PostVela_ZG, on 01 September 2019 - 09:25 AM, said:

I'm really interested to see what WG trolls have to say about this. I know already that everything in this game is false because of the way the game is set up. But new sh!t keeps popping up daily! Hahahaha! It's like a Black Adder, just brilliant! :D

 

You know it's false, but you play anyway.

 

You don't make cappuccino's do you?



jack_timber #5 Posted 01 September 2019 - 10:32 AM

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View PostVela_ZG, on 01 September 2019 - 09:25 AM, said:

I'm really interested to see what WG trolls have to say about this. I know already that everything in this game is false because of the way the game is set up. But new sh!t keeps popping up daily! Hahahaha! It's like a Black Adder, just brilliant! :D
 

Do you have a cunning plan then?



Wintermute_1 #6 Posted 01 September 2019 - 10:34 AM

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It means one count of victories includes a set of battles the other doesnt, just one more admin error to go with all the others.

divsmo #7 Posted 01 September 2019 - 11:15 AM

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So far as i know it'a because it counts victories in all the other modes as well like team battles etc.

mateyflip #8 Posted 01 September 2019 - 11:47 AM

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View PostLong_Range_Sniper, on 01 September 2019 - 09:29 AM, 

You don't make cappuccino's do you?

 

I get mine from lidl. 59p each bargain!



Nishi_Kinuyo #9 Posted 01 September 2019 - 11:56 AM

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It counts, afaik: Random Battles, Grand Battles, Team Battles, Skirmishes...

Maybe Strongholds and Advances as well.

For the 17k victories pop-up, that is.



Lucatonee #10 Posted 01 September 2019 - 12:12 PM

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View Postdivsmo, on 01 September 2019 - 12:15 PM, said:

So far as i know it'a because it counts victories in all the other modes as well like team battles etc.

of course all battles mode are  matter to personal rating,exmp.  team battles grow fast your personal rating if you win,i see lots of players whit 8k personal rating and dmg only 800 or win rate 50% so all battles mode count for personal rating and win rate,.

you see for my personal win rate miss 821 win battles ,only win where is lost battle?in total if we take after my win rate must be minumum 1600 battles missing from the presonal rating,from total battles


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NUKLEAR_SLUG #11 Posted 01 September 2019 - 01:03 PM

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View PostLucatonee, on 01 September 2019 - 12:12 PM, said:

of course all battles mode are  matter to personal rating,exmp.  team battles grow fast your personal rating if you win,i see lots of players whit 8k personal rating and dmg only 800 or win rate 50% so all battles mode count for personal rating and win rate,.

you see for my personal win rate miss 821 win battles ,only win where is lost battle?in total if we take after my win rate must be minumum 1600 battles missing from the presonal rating,from total battles


The WR reflected in your stats only includes data from random battle mode, other modes aren't included. You win 50.33% of your random battles.



Long_Range_Sniper #12 Posted 01 September 2019 - 01:17 PM

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View Postjack_timber, on 01 September 2019 - 09:32 AM, said:

Do you have a cunning plan then?

 

Looks like quite a cunning stunt.

 

View Postmateyflip, on 01 September 2019 - 10:47 AM, said:

I get mine from lidl. 59p each bargain!

 

One gets one for free at Waitrose when one is picking up one's quinoa.



UrQuan #13 Posted 01 September 2019 - 01:35 PM

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View Postdivsmo, on 01 September 2019 - 11:15 AM, said:

So far as i know it'a because it counts victories in all the other modes as well like team battles etc.

This really. The congratulatory Victory pop up screen (and the total games played as well) use all games played in every mode, including various event-linked modes, while your stat screen only shows the results of the mode you selected (default it is random mode + early associated modes before they split them up).

 

In short: pop up refers to all games (and victories) in every mode. The WR in his stat only reflect his WR in the selected mode (in this case randoms) so the difference is normal.



Vela_ZG #14 Posted 01 September 2019 - 02:00 PM

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As I said... Working as intended. Including this forum.

Homer_J #15 Posted 01 September 2019 - 02:50 PM

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View PostVela_ZG, on 01 September 2019 - 10:25 AM, said:

I'm really interested to see what WG trolls have to say about this.

 

As other s have said, total victories counts game modes not included in the random battle win rate calculation.

 

But we know you don't like logical explanations so ..... ohhh .... aliens did it.



NUKLEAR_SLUG #16 Posted 01 September 2019 - 03:58 PM

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View PostVela_ZG, on 01 September 2019 - 02:00 PM, said:

As I said... Working as intended. Including this forum.

 

If by that you mean the OP raised an issue he was confused by and the forum populace that don't suffer from a persecution delusion were able to adequately account for and provide an explanation of what he was observing, then yes, forum working as intended. :) 



4nt #17 Posted 01 September 2019 - 04:06 PM

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View PostVela_ZG, on 01 September 2019 - 02:00 PM, said:

As I said... Working as intended. Including this forum.

Now we now what this WG employee has to say, and it is quite... Underwhelming. Working as intended? Okay, since it is the official WG stance...



Balc0ra #18 Posted 01 September 2019 - 04:14 PM

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View PostVela_ZG, on 01 September 2019 - 10:25 AM, said:

I'm really interested to see what WG trolls have to say about this.

 

Same thing they say every time I suspect. The service record, and the WR % and battle count listed there etc is ONLY for random battles. That message counts Ranked, Grand battles, CW, Skirmishes,  Team battles, Advance and Historical battles. As in the total amount of battles listed on your record in the vehicle section and the game mode selection there. FL is not counted in this. 



250swb #19 Posted 02 September 2019 - 08:52 AM

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View PostVela_ZG, on 01 September 2019 - 09:25 AM, said:

 

You mean it counts the FL but doesn't show it in the list of victories? Of course, it's all good, working as intended! Hahahaha! Have some vodka comrad. Who's gonna bother themselves with triviality like that?

 

To derive any meaningful statistics from the game, such as WR, HR, Damage, tanks played etc. there needs to be a stable datum point to base those statistics on. The datum point is Random Battles, the true picture of how well a player is doing in the game. Random battles are played against other players and not for example WoT bots, or FL where stats would be skewed by playing rental tanks or at a tier the player wouldn't normally be good in, etc.

 

You can imagine (hopefully) how many things could influence stats and make them a mockery if it became a free-for-all, some special event a player is good at (the coming Chaffee races maybe) where winning or losing is meant to be in the name of 'fun'. Or maybe FL if the player only wanted the loot and let their skill drop just to grind as many battles as possible, their WR would be influenced by amassing riches and not necessarily using what skills they have. So yes, there are a lot of very good reasons why a players WR has to be attached to a common datum point if for no other reason than not all players play FL, or any of the other special events, especially as some of them may be easier to win at than others. 

 

 



Vela_ZG #20 Posted 02 September 2019 - 08:59 AM

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You're absolutely right. Only randoms should be calculated.




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