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Roboticus #1 Posted 01 September 2019 - 03:36 PM

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It was a wee Monday morning when I entered but a match in WOT.

And a rather entertaining memory and thought crossed my mind, so it did.

 

I chuckled to my self.

 

Why would I chuckle to my self you might think.

 

Well good sir, I will tell you a little story.

 

The story goes like this.

 

It was many a patch ago when a certain tank called the T110e5 was considered a game changing problem. With an over powered damage model. Troll like, god like tuma on it’s turret. 

After many a complaint, wargaming eventually did their job, and went to work balancing the tank, to what it current is now. A well balanced tank, good, but can definitely be penetrated by everything even when played perfectly.

 

So why chuckle you might think.

 

Well I chuckled to my self because, if at that point of the game in that current state we had considered the T110e5 overpowered. Then what would we have called the current broken, ridiculously overpowered T95FV and Obj279e? In that earlier form the T110e5 would have been considered balanced, and the T95FV & Obj279e would have been far superior and still overpowered. 

 

Moral of of the story is, the T110e5 got balanced. So when will the hordes of broken T95FVs and Obj279e that you see almost Every single tier 8 capable game and above also be balanced.

 


Edited by Roboticus, 01 September 2019 - 04:55 PM.


NekoPuffer_PPP #2 Posted 01 September 2019 - 03:39 PM

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E5 - standard tank

 

T95FV / Obj279e - reward tanks

 

That's basically why.



Roboticus #3 Posted 01 September 2019 - 03:54 PM

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 01 September 2019 - 03:39 PM, said:

E5 - standard tank

 

T95FV / Obj279e - reward tanks

 

That's basically why.

 

That is a wishy washy way of accepting why these abominations are in the game. And to be honest we need less of that attitude, and more attitude that revolves around dubbed operation health for this game!

 

Reality is regardless of being reward tanks or not they should be balanced. The obj260, t55a, etc etc all are not completely broken tanks. So why is it acceptable for a select couple of tanks but not the others. Are we saying then that the Obj260 needs a buff to make it unacceptably overpowered? Or are you saying that we should all join a clan, don’t go to work, make WOT our life and own these tanks so it can be 15vs15 of broken overpowered yawn fest online?

 

Taking into account a large amount of players have either boosted their way through boosting services, or been lucky enough to simply being carried to owning one by being in a select clan. Or of course auction. So there are many average to bad players that have access to this tank, and are still able to do well in them. 5 minutes tutorial in staying hulldown & that’s you golden for the T95FV. As for the actual good players that own these tanks, and use them, why do they need an unfair advantage in a match.

 

Which ever way you put it, it is undeniably wrong that these tanks are corrupting high tier games in the unacceptably broken and over powered way they are. 


Edited by Roboticus, 01 September 2019 - 04:30 PM.


XxKuzkina_MatxX #4 Posted 01 September 2019 - 05:23 PM

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Yep, it's bad no matter how few of them are there. But we're stuck with that until the new year since WG would like to finish balancing ammo first. Maybe something will be done about those before that.



Roboticus #5 Posted 01 September 2019 - 05:34 PM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 01 September 2019 - 05:23 PM, said:

Yep, it's bad no matter how few of them are there. But we're stuck with that until the new year since WG would like to finish balancing ammo first. Maybe something will be done about those before that.

That’s another part of the problem, there aren’t that few of each of the tanks. Almost every single tier 8 game and above you will see at least 1 of these if not worse. Platoons of them on each side. It’s really a bad joke.



XxKuzkina_MatxX #6 Posted 01 September 2019 - 05:43 PM

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View PostRoboticus, on 01 September 2019 - 08:34 PM, said:

That’s another part of the problem, there aren’t that few of each of the tanks. Almost every single tier 8 game and above you will see at least 1 of these if not worse. Platoons of them on each side. It’s really a bad joke.

 

There are 1907 Obj. 279 tanks in EU and 9594 Chieftains by contrast to 500k IS-7s and 135k S.Conquerors. These are the proportions of the issue, that doesn't mean there is no issue.



Roboticus #7 Posted 01 September 2019 - 05:55 PM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 01 September 2019 - 05:43 PM, said:

 

There are 1907 Obj. 279 tanks in EU and 9594 Chieftains by contrast to 500k IS-7s and 135k S.Conquerors. These are the proportions of the issue, that doesn't mean there is no issue.

 

Aye, however 500k is7 aren’t being played. Usual numbers for Eu servers are around 10k each when busy. And as is the case these tanks are played in next to every tier 8 match and above. So the numbers of these tanks has a much bigger proportion when actually being played, to tanks such as the is7 that has a much bigger availability, but aren’t played half as much.  It’s the same for the obj907 it’s commonly played because it’s overpowered. Easy wn8 is easy wn8 for some.


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Bordhaw #8 Posted 01 September 2019 - 06:15 PM

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View PostRoboticus, on 01 September 2019 - 02:36 PM, said:

It was a wee Monday morning when I entered but a match in WOT.

And a rather entertaining memory and thought crossed my mind, so it did.

 

I chuckled to my self.

 

Why would I chuckle to my self you might think.

 

Well good sir, I will tell you a little story.

 

The story goes like this.

 

It was many a patch ago when a certain tank called the T110e5 was considered a game changing problem. With an over powered damage model. Troll like, god like tuma on it’s turret. 

After many a complaint, wargaming eventually did their job, and went to work balancing the tank, to what it current is now. A well balanced tank, good, but can definitely be penetrated by everything even when played perfectly.

 

So why chuckle you might think.

 

Well I chuckled to my self because, if at that point of the game in that current state we had considered the T110e5 overpowered. Then what would we have called the current broken, ridiculously overpowered T95FV and Obj279e? In that earlier form the T110e5 would have been considered balanced, and the T95FV & Obj279e would have been far superior and still overpowered. 

 

Moral of of the story is, the T110e5 got balanced. So when will the hordes of broken T95FVs and Obj279e that you see almost Every single tier 8 capable game and above also be balanced.

 

 



4nt #9 Posted 01 September 2019 - 06:23 PM

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I guess it is about tiers played. Playing tX will probably be more likely to see a few objects and chiefs, whereas I've seen couple chiefs last two weeks and one object in last month, while grinding t8s and 9s.

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And there was me thinking the 3 SPGs in every TX game was the problem, seems I was incorrect

Roboticus #11 Posted 02 September 2019 - 12:51 AM

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View Post4nt, on 01 September 2019 - 06:23 PM, said:

I guess it is about tiers played. Playing tX will probably be more likely to see a few objects and chiefs, whereas I've seen couple chiefs last two weeks and one object in last month, while grinding t8s and 9s.

You must be playing with your eyes closed or something. It’s almost every game there’s at least one of these tanks in between tier 8-10. 



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View PostRoboticus, on 02 September 2019 - 12:51 AM, said:

You must be playing with your eyes closed or something. It’s almost every game there’s at least one of these tanks in between tier 8-10. 

Nope, spent about an hour to check my replays from last few weeks (for other reasons) and those are the numbers. 2 chiefs and 1 object. Must be lucky then.

 

Not that I've seen them much before, I've never been forced into 1v1 with chief hulldown, on The other hand more than once sconc spams gold in good position and more than few bobject v4s. 



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View PostRoboticus, on 01 September 2019 - 02:36 PM, said:

 

 

Moral of of the story is, the T110e5 got balanced. So when will the hordes of broken T95FVs and Obj279e that you see almost Every single tier 8 capable game and above also be balanced.

 

 

The game was indeed better when there were only a couple of things that needed dealing with. Wargaming have since gone on a rampage to unbalance players with constant distractions and the game balance with constant new tanks. Players are facing exhaustion and depression and WG present new events and 'offers' as if they are 'happy pills'.



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A wee story for good old times

 

i thought this post was going to be about tena for men! :hiding:



TankkiPoju #15 Posted 02 September 2019 - 07:09 PM

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Even if WG removed Super Conq, 430U, Chieftain, 279e and Obj907 from the game, E5 would still be bad in current form. Just like M103.

 

It's because hulldown was the only thing these tanks were any good at.



fwhaatpiraat #16 Posted 02 September 2019 - 07:17 PM

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Why do you expect something to change? A lot of people like to play those broken abominations and WG gladly accepts the money those players pay every now and then. Don't you think it's a great f'ing challenge to play your T-34-2, Tiger II or T28 Prototype against those tanks? So much fun, I recently managed to do a shot of damage to them!

 

Well I gave the tier 8s as examples, but I could also have mentioned all the regular tier x light tanks, IS4, powercreeped E100, 30B, etc.


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