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Gassychimp #1 Posted 01 September 2019 - 08:07 PM

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Please WG sort this tank out the DPM is awful, it misses  way to much for 105 and has low health considering the cardboard armour, I suggest increasing the DPM and improving the accuracy.  

 

After playing it more I am enjoying the tank but i still think it needs a slight ROF buff and better accuracy and long ranges

 


Edited by Gassychimp, 04 September 2019 - 04:40 PM.


P33K #2 Posted 01 September 2019 - 08:39 PM

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Terrible? Oh come on, it's quite mobile, low profile and has good camo and gun.

It can dominate on more open maps, and do well enough on rest.

Just get better. :)

Gassychimp #3 Posted 01 September 2019 - 08:48 PM

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View PostP33K, on 01 September 2019 - 08:39 PM, said:

Terrible? Oh come on, it's quite mobile, low profile and has good camo and gun.

It can dominate on more open maps, and do well enough on rest.

Just get better. :)

 

 

Gun is not good its average when facing higher tier players it fails even harder as i misses to much



Lagalaza #4 Posted 01 September 2019 - 08:56 PM

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I find it a great little TD. Being an orange (below average) player, even I manage to get above average damage with it and have ok WN8. Mobile, good gun velocity, excellent pen, good camo and good view range. Load up with premium if fighting higher tiers and away you go.

 

It's fun and I enjoy it.



XxKuzkina_MatxX #5 Posted 01 September 2019 - 09:07 PM

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It's an average tier 8 TD so please...

 

  • Don't buy a premium before doing some research and watching some of its game play.
  • There should be a Trade-in soon if you want to exchange it for something else.

Edited by XxKuzkina_MatxX, 01 September 2019 - 09:24 PM.


Lagalaza #6 Posted 01 September 2019 - 09:12 PM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 01 September 2019 - 08:07 PM, said:

It's an average tier 8 TD so please...

 

  • Don't buy a premium before doing some research and watching some of its game play.
  • There should a Trade-in soon if you want to exchange it for something else.

 

Good advice about research. I'm looking forward to the trade in for that very reason,,,, lol

 



XxKuzkina_MatxX #7 Posted 01 September 2019 - 09:20 PM

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View PostLagalaza, on 02 September 2019 - 12:12 AM, said:

Good advice about research. I'm looking forward to the trade in for that very reason,,,, lol

 

It's a very easy step to do just by searching the tank's name in YT. I don't really fault anyone for buying the wrong premium but no one can help if you don't start helping yourself. There are also a lot of them (48k) in the EU cluster despite being the sub-optimal choice!


Edited by XxKuzkina_MatxX, 01 September 2019 - 09:21 PM.


P33K #8 Posted 01 September 2019 - 09:39 PM

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View PostGassychimp, on 01 September 2019 - 08:48 PM, said:

 

 

Gun is not good its average when facing higher tier players it fails even harder as i misses to much

 

330 heat pen not enough for you? Mind you base ammo pen is probably in top 2 or 3 on tier 8 td's too. 

 

Haven't noticed it missing any more than its peers. Got it 75%'ish myself which is decent considering you sometimes miss at range anyways or try some harder shots, etc. It does require full aim though to be accurate, its not russian gun with stalin guided ammunition...



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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 01 September 2019 - 09:07 PM, said:

  • There should be a Trade-in soon if you want to exchange it for something else.

 

The best solution: take Kanonen 105 And trade it in for the AMX CDA 105. :popcorn:



Gassychimp #10 Posted 01 September 2019 - 10:23 PM

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View PostP33K, on 01 September 2019 - 09:39 PM, said:

 

330 heat pen not enough for you? Mind you base ammo pen is probably in top 2 or 3 on tier 8 td's too. 

 

Haven't noticed it missing any more than its peers. Got it 75%'ish myself which is decent considering you sometimes miss at range anyways or try some harder shots, etc. It does require full aim though to be accurate, its not russian gun with stalin guided ammunition...

 

I rarely use gold ammo feels likes cheating

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 01 September 2019 - 09:07 PM, said:

It's an average tier 8 TD so please...

 

  • Don't buy a premium before doing some research and watching some of its game play.
  • There should be a Trade-in soon if you want to exchange it for something else.

 

Yea i knew it was average as possible one of the worst T8 TD I just liked the look of the tank, I should of chosen with the Scorpion G ow well for some reason i still enjoy playing it.... I just feel like i don't have much of impact on the game compared to my mutz the long reload is a pain for amount of damage it does.



oo0oo0oooo0oo0o #11 Posted 01 September 2019 - 10:30 PM

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I used it for 2 weeks thanks to Twitch Prime membership. At first I was tempted to buy it but later I was unwilling to buy it. In my opinion it is not a tank that can affect a match result. Also its traverse speed is very good. Some may think that it is a very good thing which I think also too. But I missed many times a shot just stopped after driving 60km/h and tried to turn a bit but tank nearly traversed 180 angle lol. Its credit income was also not good in my opinion. And when you miss fully aimed shot it is pretty irritating with this tank as you already have pretty bad dpm. I prefer good dpm tank with bad accuracy rather than good accuracy with bad dpm. Because RNG will always be there. To me 0.3 and 0.36 accuracies are identical. I wouldn't pay any other specifications just for more accuracy in this range.

Edited by oo0oo0oooo0oo0o, 01 September 2019 - 10:32 PM.


Lagalaza #12 Posted 02 September 2019 - 09:30 AM

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From a damage caused perspective, it sits comfortably in the middle of the pack for Tier 8 TDs with better numbers than the AMX Canon 105, the Skorpion G and the WZ-111-1G FT. By winrate it is also comfortably middle of the road, WN8 is low. I guess these numbers would point towards a lack of influence in battle and that it is really a "sit at the back and farm damage" type of tank. Still like mine though and will contiinue to play it every time i'm playing.

Laatikkomafia #13 Posted 02 September 2019 - 09:42 AM

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May I ask, what did you expect? Out of the whole German premium tank array, only one might be worth getting.

 

The KJgPz 88 / 105 aren't one of them.



xx984 #14 Posted 02 September 2019 - 10:27 AM

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Kanonen 105 is a decent sniper, paper TD.

 

But sniper td's in general are pretty bad. Only decent one i can think of is the Skorpion G, but even then thats best played with medium tanks if you know what you are doing and the MM is decent. 

 

But as it stands. Kan105 is one the better ones in a boring, and unenjoyable class. 



Corwyn666 #15 Posted 02 September 2019 - 06:20 PM

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It is not that bad really, its DPM is good, excellent pen even with standard and its speed enables relocation very easily.  I'm not a good player but I Ace'd it after 15 battles... YMMV.

NoobySkooby #16 Posted 02 September 2019 - 11:51 PM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 01 September 2019 - 09:07 PM, said:

It's an average tier 8 TD so please...

 

  • Don't buy a premium before doing some research and watching some of its game play.
  • There should be a Trade-in soon if you want to exchange it for something else.

Trade it in for what though, jagtiger 8.8 or the Chinese FT, which is just as bad with the gun handling



XxKuzkina_MatxX #17 Posted 03 September 2019 - 12:19 AM

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View PostNoobySkooby, on 03 September 2019 - 02:51 AM, said:

Trade it in for what though, jagtiger 8.8 or the Chinese FT, which is just as bad with the gun handling

 

He can trade it for whatever he wants from this list and not necessarily a TD. The Chinese TD is a much better tank and will have more impact on battles than the Kan 105 in its pure sniper function. The Super Pershing after the last buffs is a capable tank with a preferential MM. The Lowe is a very good heavy, the mod1 is at least more fun to play, the STA-2 and Liberté are okay, etc.

 

How would i know what he wants Nooby???

 

He bought a tank and played it for a while, made some credits and trained a good german TD crew. Then he found out it doesn't suit him, he didn't like the gun performance or it doesn't have an impact on battles because it's a sniper TD. I think the logical next step is to exchange it for something else preferably better.


Edited by XxKuzkina_MatxX, 03 September 2019 - 12:36 AM.


kubawt112 #18 Posted 03 September 2019 - 01:11 AM

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Rumour is that it's an improvement over the original Kanonenjagdpanzer. I guess there's always that to consider? :)

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View Postkubawt112, on 03 September 2019 - 01:11 AM, said:

Rumour is that it's an improvement over the original Kanonenjagdpanzer. I guess there's always that to consider? :)

 

Rumous has it that you don't NEED to be in a bush crying for people to suicide spot for you. It hits hard enough that getting into a nasty early spot can do some real damage and if you are not a complete and utter *beep!*, it is quite feasible to follow heavies and get some sneaky shots in. It is a somewhat more risky approach to playing it, but it may just be a tad more enjoyable than counting leaves.



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View Postoo0oo0oooo0oo0o, on 01 September 2019 - 09:30 PM, said:

I used it for 2 weeks thanks to Twitch Prime membership. At first I was tempted to buy it but later I was unwilling to buy it. In my opinion it is not a tank that can affect a match result. Also its traverse speed is very good. Some may think that it is a very good thing which I think also too. But I missed many times a shot just stopped after driving 60km/h and tried to turn a bit but tank nearly traversed 180 angle lol. Its credit income was also not good in my opinion. And when you miss fully aimed shot it is pretty irritating with this tank as you already have pretty bad dpm. I prefer good dpm tank with bad accuracy rather than good accuracy with bad dpm. Because RNG will always be there. To me 0.3 and 0.36 accuracies are identical. I wouldn't pay any other specifications just for more accuracy in this range.

 

This^

 

It's not terrible, has high mobility, good camo and default APCR shells, but not fun either because it misses fully aimed shots very often and has low dpm. If left alone you'll not be able to change the outcome of a battle because once you're spotted you're dead, thanks to non-existent armor and low HP.

 

 






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