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__Santana__ #1 Posted 03 September 2019 - 06:52 PM

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Which tank is better for the mission Union 15 to cause, block and receive 10000 damage: IS-7 or Obj 705 A? I have as well Obj 260 and the other lesser armored: 113, Obj 277 and Wz-111 model 5A.

Or should I try the mission with St-1 or Obj 257? I remember I did the mission to block damage double the hp with St-1. It's the last mission and I can get chimera.


Edited by __Santana__, 03 September 2019 - 06:53 PM.


XxKuzkina_MatxX #2 Posted 03 September 2019 - 07:15 PM

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I'd use the IS-7 but the ST-I is also an interesting choice. The ST-I might get lucky with the MM and be top tier which is a problem.

 

Good luck. :)



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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 03 September 2019 - 09:45 PM, said:

I'd use the IS-7 but the ST-I is also an interesting choice. The ST-I might get lucky with the MM and be top tier which is a problem.

 

Good luck. :)

ST-I tier for tier is better than IS-4, right?

So what's so special about ST-I? 



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View Postsplash_time, on 03 September 2019 - 10:57 PM, said:

ST-I tier for tier is better than IS-4, right?

So what's so special about ST-I? 

 

Yes it's better tier for tier.

 

In a nutshell, it's a steel brick with good gun depression. Its gun handling and aim time are awful though.



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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 03 September 2019 - 10:44 PM, said:

 

Yes it's better tier for tier.

 

In a nutshell, it's a steel brick with good gun depression. Its gun handling and aim time are awful though.

 

I'm struggling to do my HT15 of T55a, i tried Kranvagn, amx m4 45(prem tank), vk 100, Obj 705a and mauschen but still not completed, once i reached 11,200 with 6k damage and rest damage blocked and received.

I really don't know how to go through it. :(

 

Edit: i rarely find a good battle without arty or my tank can fit in it, so it's hard to do.


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LIL_Veky #6 Posted 03 September 2019 - 08:33 PM

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705A for sure. last night i blocked 8k (in full tier 10 mm) without even trying too much, and in general its a very reliable bouncer

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View PostLIL_Veky, on 03 September 2019 - 11:03 PM, said:

705A for sure. last night i blocked 8k (in full tier 10 mm) without even trying too much, and in general its a very reliable bouncer

 

I know, but problem is, when i try side scrapping, nobody fire at me. Or they atart spamming HE.


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STRAPATONI #8 Posted 03 September 2019 - 09:17 PM

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you need the perfect moment.

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705 or ST-I might be your best bets. 257 is not that solid anymore, as everyone knows how to abuse that thing now. Tho ST-I is not that solid either if you face a wall of HEAT. But vs AP as top tier it can rack up a bit.

 

But yeah, HE spam is rather common if you use your side. But keep at it. At some point you will find a poor sod with a stock tier 9 or 8 with no pen, and just ignore him and let him fire on you. I had this mission on the entire ST-I grind before I found a few stock guns to face and did it. So it's a fair bit of luck more so then anything tbh.



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You don't see too many ST-I about so that might be a decent choice as it's a very solid tank and people will be less familiar with how to deal with you.

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you need - 2 mm, open map. expose  youself . and hope to bounce, remember, you have 14 team m8s which wont let you do that mission. so you need to use tricky things.

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View Postsplash_time, on 03 September 2019 - 08:35 PM, said:

 

I know, but problem is, when i try side scrapping, nobody fire at me. Or they atart spamming HE.

i guess you have to wait for the right game, best advice i can give



XxKuzkina_MatxX #13 Posted 04 September 2019 - 12:22 AM

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It's 10k damage caused, received and blocked. You can have a good game AND finish your mission. No need to sit there waiting for someone very bright or with a bad gun to shoot you worth of 10k. There is a better option...

 

 

after that..."The 12th cavalry division is to die. Do not die immediately but towards the evening." :)


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Schepel #14 Posted 04 September 2019 - 02:10 AM

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705A did the job for me. It hits hard enough and if you have a nice house to properly hide your frontal weakspots, people can shoot at you all day long. In the end you don't even need that much damage blocked, but it helps.

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ST-I is very strong, even vs tier10, except they start spamming heat at your turret ;-)

 

although I would activate great battles and use IS-7 or 705A where you have more hitpoints in the game



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View PostThlurp, on 04 September 2019 - 06:45 AM, said:

ST-I is very strong, even vs tier10, except they start spamming heat at your turret ;-)

 

although I would activate great battles and use IS-7 or 705A where you have more hitpoints in the game

 

I didn't get a turret penetration with HEAT on my ST-I in ages. Well,except the cupola, but that works with most tier 10 AP too...

 

I would try it with the IS-4 line. Did the HT15 for T55A in KV-4 although not with honours as the gum missed a couple of important shells. ST-I is also pretty solid and, with spall liner, it can sustain also heavy HE fire while hulldown. 

But being Union 15, you may try this on any well armoured tank. A 430U may be a good choice too as it has armour, penetration and DPM. Or Bobject can work too with the high alpha and armour combination.



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Got it, then i think I'll just wait until the best map, without arty, and a full dumb team appear and obtain the chance. 

My highest damage blocked record was 8,6k with 705, sat down the bridge in Paris, and waited for people to do the magic for me. 

But with tier 10s, it's totally different, most of players are not just there to waste shells, they have two options.

1. Spam HE.

2. Leave him alone and attack other side.

Which i seen 2 a lot of times, they just try flanking or finishing everyone around me then advance.



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View PostSTRAPATONI, on 03 September 2019 - 08:29 PM, said:

you need - 2 mm, open map. expose  youself . and hope to bounce, remember, you have 14 team m8s which wont let you do that mission. so you need to use tricky things.


You were right. I made it on Prokorovka with Is-7 with a -2 mm. And I did the secondary as well 20% damage and win. I was lucky they caped in the end, because I was already dead. Obj 705 A is not good for this mission. It's too slow and game is not what it used to be. With all these lights and arty in the game. Too few heavies and the sidescrape strategy didn't get me anywhere.



XxKuzkina_MatxX #19 Posted 04 September 2019 - 08:09 PM

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The good ol' IS-7, never disappoints. Congrats and enjoy your new reward. :great:

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View Post__Santana__, on 04 September 2019 - 07:58 PM, said:


You were right. I made it on Prokorovka with Is-7 with a -2 mm. And I did the secondary as well 20% damage and win. I was lucky they caped in the end, because I was already dead. Obj 705 A is not good for this mission. It's too slow and game is not what it used to be. With all these lights and arty in the game. Too few heavies and the sidescrape strategy didn't get me anywhere.

 

Glad you got it done. I have to disagree with you on the 705A, though. The majority of the maps have corridors that allow the 705A to shine. Given how many people refuse to move no matter what, there is usually plenty of time to do whatever you like - even in tanks like the T95.






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