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Amun_RA #1 Posted 05 September 2019 - 09:48 PM

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For the first time since I play this game I feel like I want to quit.

The problem is 279 missions require consistency over a said number of battles in a game which has very much variability and the team composition can mess up with your performance quite a bit. There is way too much RNG, too much unpredictable fire from the sky and too many premium shells envolved to be able to always invoke skill.

 

I was trying today to get the 30k damage dealt during 10 battles missions (with British, American or Polish can be done). I have done 14.3 k damage during the first 4 battles with FV 183 and 60 TP and I was pretty sure I was going to finish it. Then I started to lose battles, had some terrible teams and was short of about 4k damage to finish the mission. I even lost 15 to 0 one battle and once I have only done 700 damage. When you lose extremely fast and are soon sorounded by enemy you don't even get to reload too often. 

And not to mention how bad the guns on these 2 tanks are, just terrible accuracy. 

 

What I want to say is that the current status of the game is extremely bad for asking from the players to complete hard missions that require consistency. 

I am only average player and maybe I don't deserve this tank but I think that the missions are not properly tuned to such a chaotic game like wot.

 

I have already got Obj 260 and I am not going to experience more extreme frustration just for a pixel tank. I would like to have it, I respect those who managed to get it already but this is way too much. I feel like WG doesn't respect us at all. 



NUKLEAR_SLUG #2 Posted 05 September 2019 - 10:39 PM

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So they don't respect you because they won't hand it to you on a plate?

 



the_nebuchadnezzar #3 Posted 05 September 2019 - 11:36 PM

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Mommy, mommey... WG is mean to me cause they want me to put some time and effort into completing some missions in order to get a stupid OP tanks. The tragedy, the horror...

fwhaatpiraat #4 Posted 06 September 2019 - 12:21 AM

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The missions I liked the most were: get 3 (or is it 2?) top guns in x battles, block 40 hits in 5 battles (union-279). The 15th mission requirements are easy without honors, but with honors they can be quite tricky.

Schepel #5 Posted 06 September 2019 - 01:59 AM

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View Postthe_nebuchadnezzar, on 05 September 2019 - 11:36 PM, said:

Mommy, mommey... WG is mean to me cause they want me to put some time and effort into completing some missions in order to get a stupid OP tanks. The tragedy, the horror...

 

His complaint is not invalid. The missions are designed in such a way that you will get screwed, repeatedly, by circumstances out of your control. All you can do is make sure you are in a position to complete your mission, but it is a fallacy that skill will ensure succes. At most, it will help. Essentially, these missions are just as bad as the obj 260 ones which also heavily depended on the luck of the draw. Not enough TD's in the game? No mission for you buddy! All you can do is hit the battle button, again.

 

My advice is to not let it get to you. Set yourself goals that may be completed while you grind the missions. If at all feasible, I grind credits doing the missions. Alternatively, I try to increase my average dmg (aka get the next gun mark) on a tank. If you do the mission, fantastic, if you don't, you will still have something accomplished. (Might be a good idea to enjoy yourself, too!)



gitgud_cannot #6 Posted 06 September 2019 - 06:44 AM

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if you cant get the missions done, you dont deserve it, missions have been made more simple now. I did chimera campaign before mission changes, 15th mission requirements were equivalent of obj 260 pretty much, now its way easier to do them, so stop complaining. Sure you have to skip some missions, cause they actually are pure rng, luck, mm dependant + missions made for arta... in order to skip some missions on the way to 15th mission, you have to do every excalibur and chimera 15 mission with honours and at least 1-2 obj279 15th mission with honours then its a piece of cake to take the last missions down and get the bobject, i cuurently have only one misson left - bloc-15, shouldnt be hard to get 3 aces, 1st class german badges, although i dont really have many badly played tanks :D

splash_time #7 Posted 06 September 2019 - 07:21 AM

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View PostAmun_RA, on 06 September 2019 - 12:18 AM, said:

For the first time since I play this game I feel like I want to quit.

The problem is 279 missions require consistency over a said number of battles in a game which has very much variability and the team composition can mess up with your performance quite a bit. There is way too much RNG, too much unpredictable fire from the sky and too many premium shells envolved to be able to always invoke skill.

 

I was trying today to get the 30k damage dealt during 10 battles missions (with British, American or Polish can be done). I have done 14.3 k damage during the first 4 battles with FV 183 and 60 TP and I was pretty sure I was going to finish it. Then I started to lose battles, had some terrible teams and was short of about 4k damage to finish the mission. I even lost 15 to 0 one battle and once I have only done 700 damage. When you lose extremely fast and are soon sorounded by enemy you don't even get to reload too often. 

And not to mention how bad the guns on these 2 tanks are, just terrible accuracy. 

 

What I want to say is that the current status of the game is extremely bad for asking from the players to complete hard missions that require consistency. 

I am only average player and maybe I don't deserve this tank but I think that the missions are not properly tuned to such a chaotic game like wot.

 

I have already got Obj 260 and I am not going to experience more extreme frustration just for a pixel tank. I would like to have it, I respect those who managed to get it already but this is way too much. I feel like WG doesn't respect us at all. 

 

We all like and try to reach 279 tank(I'm at chimera right now), but it's not easy you know? It's a reward tank for completing real hard missions, it means, *you* must be deserved to get it. So, it's not like stug missions for sure.

And i do agree with you, RNG and MM do effect a lot on these missions, once i was 200 damage away from completing German's first mission, and i bounced on a light!. :D

And players who already got it, I'm sure that they can change a lose battle into victory many times, or deal 9k+ damage. So they really deserve it.

And don't lose hope after a few battles, even good players were frustrated!! So imagine about us!! :D

Anyway, try your best and good luck, greetings!

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View PostSchepel, on 06 September 2019 - 04:29 AM, said:

My advice is to not let it get to you. Set yourself goals that may be completed while you grind the missions. If at all feasible, I grind credits doing the missions. Alternatively, I try to increase my average dmg (aka get the next gun mark) on a tank. If you do the mission, fantastic, if you don't, you will still have something accomplished. (Might be a good idea to enjoy yourself, too!)

 

Believe or not, i done some of T 55a missions with my Swedish leo, and with honours, and i didn't even notice it! :D

Never focused on doing them, just played my game, and they were getting completed by time, i never tried to grind them, because i know that I'll get bored and annoyed.

It's just luck and MM, sometimes you are lucky, and sometimes you are not, so just try to hf instead of annoying yourself.


Edited by splash_time, 06 September 2019 - 07:30 AM.


Stevies_Team #8 Posted 06 September 2019 - 07:45 AM

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It's a gamebreaking tank so getting one is going to take a lot of effort

 

The more there are in circulation, the harder it will get



TankkiPoju #9 Posted 06 September 2019 - 07:53 AM

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I reckoned I would need a 279e to complete the missions for 279e.

 

 



kaneloon #10 Posted 06 September 2019 - 07:53 AM

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View PostIf_I_Die_You_Die_Too, on 06 September 2019 - 06:45 AM, said:

It's a gamebreaking tank so getting one is going to take a lot of effort

 

The more there are in circulation, the harder it will get

 

Most casual players will never have it.

Plus having one and playing it like a turd is somehow wrong, a bit like what we see with some OP CW tanks ...



Stevies_Team #11 Posted 06 September 2019 - 07:58 AM

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I notice that its lower plate is 20mm

 

Any chance that a big alpha HE round into the tracks will peck away at that?

(I can only ever remember meeting a 279 once in WOT. I died)


Edited by If_I_Die_You_Die_Too, 06 September 2019 - 08:01 AM.


Amun_RA #12 Posted 06 September 2019 - 08:38 AM

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View PostIf_I_Die_You_Die_Too, on 06 September 2019 - 06:45 AM, said:

It's a gamebreaking tank so getting one is going to take a lot of effort

 

The more there are in circulation, the harder it will get

 

Oh, and about this. I have also had a battle against Obj 279 in my 60TP. I managed to damage him for about 1,4k damage with HE while he was constantly penetrating my turret with premium rounds... Just a couple bounced off my turret. And my team was just casually chilling behind me or running away, which seems to be the rule many battles these days.

 

 



xx984 #13 Posted 06 September 2019 - 08:47 AM

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That’s why you save every order from Excalibur and Chimera so you only have to complete one set of 279 missions 

SuNo_TeSLa #14 Posted 06 September 2019 - 08:53 AM

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View Postxx984, on 06 September 2019 - 08:47 AM, said:

That’s why you save every order from Excalibur and Chimera so you only have to complete one set of 279 missions 

 

But what about the piggery? :(



splash_time #15 Posted 06 September 2019 - 08:57 AM

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View Postxx984, on 06 September 2019 - 11:17 AM, said:

That’s why you save every order from Excalibur and Chimera so you only have to complete one set of 279 missions 

 

The easiest way to receive it, yeah. But still, completing one set may take 1 or 2 months

 

Edit: how many orders you receive for completing Excalibur and Chimera with honours? 

And how many orders take for 15th mission of 279? 3 or 4 orders?


Edited by splash_time, 06 September 2019 - 09:00 AM.


Amun_RA #16 Posted 06 September 2019 - 09:00 AM

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View Postxx984, on 06 September 2019 - 07:47 AM, said:

That’s why you save every order from Excalibur and Chimera so you only have to complete one set of 279 missions 

 

I have done that partially, except for one 15th missions for Chimera. 6.5k damage Allience. Which I can do, done it already multiple times, last time yesterday. But I really wanted to stop losing time and start with 279 missions. Which I admit it was stupid to do. I really haven't known that one can skip all the missions in a set, too if one uses orders for the 15th mission. It wasn't the case for Obj 260 if I remember correctly.

 

One of the most important rules: read the instructions before using a product...



Negativvv #17 Posted 06 September 2019 - 09:03 AM

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Lel whine...

 

Why would you feel like quitting over a set of optional missions?

 

Such a sense of entitlement, maybe send WG a ticket asking if they will see it?



Amun_RA #18 Posted 06 September 2019 - 09:03 AM

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View Postsplash_time, on 06 September 2019 - 07:57 AM, said:

 

The easiest way to receive it, yeah. But still, completing one set may take 1 or 2 months

 

Edit: how many orders you receive for completing Excalibur and Chimera with honours? 

And how many orders take for 15th mission of 279? 3 or 4 orders?

 

You get 8 orders in total for the first 2 sets with honors. 

To skip 15th mission for 279 you need only 3 orders. 

 

I guess the Russian missions should be pretty doable giving that those tanks are clearly the best. Don't know about 15th mission with honors, though. That could be hard because many people play Russian tanks.



splash_time #19 Posted 06 September 2019 - 09:07 AM

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View PostAmun_RA, on 06 September 2019 - 11:33 AM, said:

I guess the Russian missions should be pretty doable giving that those tanks are clearly the best. Don't know about 15th mission with honors, though. That could be hard because many people play Russian tanks.

 

I guess 3 Ace or first class in a row? With honours 3 Ace in a row. (I'm not sure)

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Edited by splash_time, 06 September 2019 - 09:16 AM.


shikaka9 #20 Posted 06 September 2019 - 09:11 AM

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do not force it , just play normal  ... and it will happen naturally .. in 4 years :trollface:




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