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MegaDeltaFighter #1 Posted 10 September 2019 - 04:54 PM

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just as the topic says 

Make T55A a Multinational Vehicles in Update 1.6.1

it is almost a useless tank in garage however it is buffed a little bit, but it's still almost useless.

German crew of leopard are not fully compatible with the Russian tank  due to different skill set and 

Russian crew can not be used in the tank.  making the tank multinational, increases the usability of the tank a little bit more    

 

 



XxKuzkina_MatxX #2 Posted 10 September 2019 - 05:04 PM

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It's a good idea and it will make the tank more useful. The problem is out of the 3 Russian tier 9 mediums, the crew layout is compatible with the T-54 only. They're the same tank after all but neither the 430 nor the 430 II will be able to exchange crews with it. A better solution in my opinion will be to switch the radio operator job from the loader to the commander.


Edited by XxKuzkina_MatxX, 10 September 2019 - 05:07 PM.


Dava_117 #3 Posted 10 September 2019 - 05:05 PM

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View PostMegaDeltaFighter, on 10 September 2019 - 04:54 PM, said:

just as the topic says 

Make T55A a Multinational Vehicles in Update 1.6.1

it is almost a useless tank in garage however it is buffed a little bit, but it's still almost useless.

German crew of leopard are not fully compatible with the Russian tank  due to different skill set and 

Russian crew can not be used in the tank.  making the tank multinational, increases the usability of the tank a little bit more    

 

 

 

It likely will be one of the multinational tanks.

If the test made with the Rudy goes well ofc. 



LordSkyFury #4 Posted 11 September 2019 - 08:33 AM

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Or they should change crew layout to be same as Leopard 1.

tajj7 #5 Posted 11 September 2019 - 08:36 AM

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How is one of the best tier 9 meds useless? 

 

I just use an E50M crew, fits fine, aside losing sit awareness that is about it. 



StinkyStonky #6 Posted 11 September 2019 - 09:02 AM

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Nice idea but this wont happen in 1.6.1 for two reasons.

 

Firstly multinational vehicles are being tested in 1.6.1, not fully rolled out everywhere.  Depending on the results WG may make other tanks multination, Churchill 3 says hi, or the T55A as you've suggested.

Secondly, why are WG doing this at all ?  What's their motivation ?  What do they get out of it ?  WG are trying to keep their game alive, particularly they are trying to keep their revenue streams alive. 

Multinationing the Rudy will have 2 effects. 

It will boost sales in the Rudy, which has been completely sidelined by the T34-85M.  People will want to buy it to train Polish med crews.

It will boost activity in the Polish line, which leads to Heavies and so it will boost sales in the Polish Premium Heavy (as more people will get there).

 

How will making a zero revenue reward tank like the T55A more attractive help WG ?  It won't, directly.

 

Making the Pudel usable by German crews would have a similar effect but as the Pudel has a better crew layout (unless you REALLY like the dog), doing the Pudel at the same time would completely scupper the Rudy change.  So my bet is that the Pudel wont be changed for at least a year.

 

A lot of these changes will be aimed at exploiting petty nationalism.  There are people who primarily play their nations tanks and so there will be Brits who want to play the Church 3, Germans who want to play the Pudel, Poles who want to play the Rudy, etc.



Ceeb #7 Posted 11 September 2019 - 09:22 AM

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Why is it useless?

 

I too have my E50M crew in it,   Dont get me wrong, once I finally unlocked it i was hoping my T-54 crew at the time would drop right it.   Then I found out it was German...

 

Even East German it should have been in the Russian Tech Tree,



pecopad #8 Posted 11 September 2019 - 12:21 PM

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Most probably the best tier 9 medium in the game,and for sure the best Soviet tier 9 medium tank...

 

Does not make extra credits, so I tend not to play with him, only for crew training.



Kartoshkaya #9 Posted 11 September 2019 - 12:25 PM

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It's the only tank i want to meet this feature

Balc0ra #10 Posted 11 September 2019 - 12:56 PM

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Best tier 9 med useless?

 

Well, Rudy is only the first tank. We know that much. What will come later with the same nation change remains to be seen. T-55A could be one of them, or not. 



kaneloon #11 Posted 11 September 2019 - 01:04 PM

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I have the E50 crewand they are happy.

 

The E50M crew did something wrong in the past so they are stuck in the Turan III prot ;)



CrazyLovex #12 Posted 11 September 2019 - 01:06 PM

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T55a? only if it = WG profit (as usual no space for player enjoyment)

 

Multinational Vehicles will be implemented for 1 reason and 1 reason only; to doube the grind

 

1 tanks + 2 grinds = WG profit %

1 tank = 2 crews, 2 sets of equiment, x2 consumble use, x2 time spent playing (and 2 tech trees getting reaserched WG hopes)

 

WG hopes to turn 1 player into 2 players

Multinational vehicels = WG scaming players (as usual)



WoT_RU_Doing #13 Posted 11 September 2019 - 02:17 PM

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T-55A as multi-national seems logical to me. There's also a whole bunch of others I'd like to see, especially the current Soviet British tanks (Tetrarch, Valentine, Matilda and Churchill - the crews don't bother me but I want to put British camo on them)

Cobra6 #14 Posted 11 September 2019 - 03:18 PM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 10 September 2019 - 04:04 PM, said:

It's a good idea and it will make the tank more useful. The problem is out of the 3 Russian tier 9 mediums, the crew layout is compatible with the T-54 only. They're the same tank after all but neither the 430 nor the 430 II will be able to exchange crews with it. A better solution in my opinion will be to switch the radio operator job from the loader to the commander.


Or just stop giving tanks weird crew-layouts in general.

 

Just have all nations have 4 crewmembers: Commander, gunner, driver and radio operator.

 

That way you wouldn't have the weird crew skill problems all the time.

But also tanks like the French light tanks wouldn't be artificially handicapped compared to other nations as they only have 3 crew and thus far less opportunity to level up the crew (less crew, same skills) as other nations.

 

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View PostCobra6, on 11 September 2019 - 03:18 PM, said:


Or just stop giving tanks weird crew-layouts in general.

 

Just have all nations have 4 crewmembers: Commander, gunner, driver and radio operator.

 

That way you wouldn't have the weird crew skill problems all the time.

But also tanks like the French light tanks wouldn't be artificially handicapped compared to other nations as they only have 3 crew and thus far less opportunity to level up the crew (less crew, same skills) as other nations.

 

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Good points. Recently got my elc even 90 crew to the sixth skill iirc. And still there were 10 pers/skills to choose or so.



Falathi #16 Posted 11 September 2019 - 04:00 PM

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View Postpecopad, on 11 September 2019 - 12:21 PM, said:

Most probably the best tier 9 medium in the game,and for sure the best Soviet tier 9 medium tank...

 

Does not make extra credits, so I tend not to play with him, only for crew training.

 

Personally, I`d consider Skoda T 50 or perhaps Standard B as the best tier IX medium tank but it`s my opinion. For sure T-55A is not bad. 

 

View PostKartoshkaya, on 11 September 2019 - 12:25 PM, said:

It's the only tank i want to meet this feature

 

I can agree to this. Why not? 

 

View PostBalc0ra, on 11 September 2019 - 12:56 PM, said:

Best tier 9 med useless?

 

Well, Rudy is only the first tank. We know that much. What will come later with the same nation change remains to be seen. T-55A could be one of them, or not. 

 

I think it should be stated that Rudy is just the very first step. One of the reasons it was picked was the fact that it was added as a Soviet tank when PL tech tree was not yet a thing, but it felt awkward being a Soviet vehicle, with Soviet crew when it should have rather been Polish. There were some discussions on how to solve this issue and I think the solution we`ve got is the best one possible. 

 

That being said - if everything works well I`d expect more tanks to receive this feature as in the game we actually have many vehicles that would fit in more than just one nationality. Think of all the captured vehicles we have, including the latest addition that is the Captured King Tiger. Then, all the LendLease vehicles. Next, there are few cases of vehicles like the aforementioned T-55A which would fit in the German as well as Soviet service ( Not to mention that actually various variants of T-55 could be added under Polish and Czech flags as well ). 

 



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View PostFalathi, on 11 September 2019 - 04:00 PM, said:

 

Personally, I`d consider Skoda T 50 or perhaps Standard B as the best tier IX medium tank but it`s my opinion. For sure T-55A is not bad. 

 

i thought it had to be a premium or a reward tank…

Tech tree tanks might make things weird.

if tech tree tanks can change nationality, Chinese tech tree might get more interesting.


Edited by The_Naa, 11 September 2019 - 04:04 PM.


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View PostMegaDeltaFighter, on 10 September 2019 - 04:54 PM, said:

just as the topic says 

Make T55A a Multinational Vehicles in Update 1.6.1

it is almost a useless tank in garage however it is buffed a little bit, but it's still almost useless.

German crew of leopard are not fully compatible with the Russian tank  due to different skill set and 

Russian crew can not be used in the tank.  making the tank multinational, increases the usability of the tank a little bit more    

 

 

 

T55A useless? Really? :amazed:

 

One of the strongest tier 9 MTs in the game useless...ok. I do agree about the multinational stuff though.

 

PS. Expected values to 3-mark the T55A is 4300. That is 400 more than the Obj.140. Just saying. Useless...:trollface: 



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View PostThe_Naa, on 11 September 2019 - 04:03 PM, said:

 

i thought it had to be a premium or a reward tank…

Tech tree tanks might make things weird.

if tech tree tanks can change nationality, Chinese tech tree might get more interesting.

 

I only referred to the issue of which tier IX medium tank might be the best. 

As for the tech tree, this can indeed be an issue and we have a lot of tanks in some tech trees that would belong to one than one nation. Who knows, perhaps one day? 



MeNoobTank #20 Posted 11 September 2019 - 05:36 PM

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about the tech tree tanks... maybe after we elite them we can change the nationality. And maybe add more nations that don't have tech trees. In this way you don't need to create fictional tanks for every nation to complete a tech tree to please everyone.

Edited by MeNoobTank, 11 September 2019 - 05:37 PM.





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