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soysauce #41 Posted 22 February 2012 - 11:59 PM

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View PostBotan, on 21 February 2012 - 01:01 PM, said:

Or poverty for everybody.

The same pay for all? This is total unfair!!!!
Do you know the result of such things?
In Poland when commies ruled we had sentence "Czy się stoi, czy się leży, 2 000 się należy" what means "Or you stay, or you lay, 2000 charge for you" By the way, from which WEST country you are?

Jobs doesn't have value itself, the value of job is satisfy the needs of others people.
I am from Scotland, I agree that it is not totally fair but those who worked harder would get better jobs with better hours.

And if everonr in the US for example was paid equally everyone would earn $100,000 a year, I agree, Poverty for all. I mean what can $100,000 get you?

Catarraz #42 Posted 23 February 2012 - 06:40 PM

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not this again...

theta0123 #43 Posted 23 February 2012 - 07:56 PM

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Hey you guys discussing politics


T3043 #44 Posted 01 March 2012 - 05:11 PM

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[quote name='RoyalBengalTiger' timestamp='1326756032' post='1317182']
After taking a good look at the A1E1...

So that's where the Soviets got their idea for the T-54 turret...

No they didn't get it from there...from the IS-3 and that came from Kotin the famous designer of the JS/IS series tanks.
NOW GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT!

Zarax999 #45 Posted 02 March 2012 - 12:11 AM

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http://ww2drawings.j.../1-Vehicles(bis)/Italy/03-HeavyTanks/Fiat-2000M/p1.jpg

Fiat 2000:

1x65mm howitzer
2x45mm AT

Developed in 1918, ironically it was the heaviest tank deployed by Italy until after 1945...

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View PostZarax999, on 02 March 2012 - 12:11 AM, said:

http://ww2drawings.j.../1-Vehicles(bis)/Italy/03-HeavyTanks/Fiat-2000M/p1.jpg

Fiat 2000:

1x65mm howitzer
2x45mm AT

Developed in 1918, ironically it was the heaviest tank deployed by Italy until after 1945...

Tier 1 multi-gun tank. Thats actually quite amusing  :)

...and what tanks did Italy field after ww2? American tanks I imagine

RoyalBengalTiger #47 Posted 05 March 2012 - 02:31 AM

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Probably M46 and M47 from US surplus as the M48 went into service.

As for politics- Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite.

Zarax999 #48 Posted 07 March 2012 - 07:20 PM

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Yes, it was a mixture of Shermans and Pattons, followed by Leopard I and II later on in the process of being replaced by native Ariete tanks.

In WOT terms Italy doesn't have much to be offered, basically tier VI would be the highest available.

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View PostZarax999, on 07 March 2012 - 07:20 PM, said:

In WOT terms Italy doesn't have much to be offered, basically tier VI would be the highest available.

Infact, I think that the best tank Italy fielded in ww2, the Fiat P40 heavy, for not only not being heavy and having a weak gun could only reach tier IV...

Catarraz #50 Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:55 PM

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Double post...

ralach #51 Posted 07 March 2012 - 11:44 PM

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A bit off-topic,but concerning italian tanks:

http://forum.worldof...e-by-dc-ariete/

(a bit old but worth a read..i think there was another italian tank tree floating about..but cant seem to find it)

-anyways- back to more multi-turreted-tanks :)

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Ladies and Gentlemen, the thread has not died just yet!
Let me present to you a sloped armour variant of the T-35!
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Hey Umm, how about trying to make a line of soviet multi-turret tanks?
I believe there is a super-heavy prototype tank paper project somewhere in the forums that could pose as tier X, with a bit of research we could make a nice suggestion for the suggestion forum.

Catarraz #54 Posted 24 March 2012 - 09:01 PM

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A whole line of multi-turret threads would be just awesome, I was infact thinking more of the Tank Grotte, for example being inserted in the medium line, while the T-35 being tier 4 researchable through the T-28 and then lead to the tier 5 T100 (which can have a 152mm).
As for a possible tier 6...
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Fun fact: if you look closely to the very first picture of the thread you can see its the sloped variant t-35. No one noticed it with good reasons!

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And here's the tier 7: http://forum.worldof...mir-lenin-tank/

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View PostZarax999, on 24 March 2012 - 09:37 PM, said:


That thing's freakin huge!
I've added the site they mentioned there which has a lot of very interesting and rather unknown tanks:
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Found the tier XIII, aka what to answer when someone uses "ratte": http://bbs.stardestr...127848#p2921975

http://www.bronetehn...ru/tg/tg_10.jpg

Grotte tank (drawing by Grotte himself)

In March 1930 for a technical competition, foreign engineers were invited to the USSR, including E. Grotte. Under his lead, by late autmn of 1931, a medium tank "TG" was developed. However, it did not win a bid for serial production. Grotte was denied Soviet contracts and wasn't contacted any more. However, in March 1931 Grotte also participated in the UMM RKKA competition for a superheavy tank, and proposed two variants of a 1000-ton tank with three or six turrets.

In the turrets, two 304mm, four 152mm and 76mm, and two 45mm guns were to be installed. The tank crew was projected around 40 men. Armor protection in forward parts of hull and turret was reaching 300mm, sides - 250mm, top and bottom - 60-100mm. Several engines were to be placed on the machine with a total power of 24,000 h.p. (17630 kWt), which would allow speed up to 60 kph. Transmission was hydromechanical with an electric control system. Hydraulic dampfers and three-layered tracks were to be implemented as a solution to the enormous weight. Upon reviewing the project, the UMM RKKA concluded that the tank construction would be extremely heavy, complex and hard to produce.

Source: Soviet Heavy Tanks (1917-1941) By avia press likely.

EDIT: This design is actually by the very same engineer as the Ratte!

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The Soviet T29,

Does it look familiar? lol

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This may fit better though

French FCM F1 1940 armed with a 90mm and a 45mm

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and its competitor

CHAR AMX 1939 TRACTOR C armed with a 105mm and a 45mm

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