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_1111_ #1 Posted 14 September 2019 - 03:23 AM

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I must say that I have been very lucky to get such great battles in the World of Tanks. There is nothing more glorious than winning 15-0 so that all enemies die like flies within the first few minutes without me having to shoot a single shot. That proves how great and skilled player I am, a true unicum. On the other hand, losing 0-15 only proves how bad players there sometimes are, and eventually all of us have to get unlucky. That is what randomness means, right? You can't win always just like you can't lose always. The unfairness is merely a proof of your skill or the lack of your team's skills, nothing more.

 

Players must stop whining about balanced battles and must stop demanding games that are not rigged. There would be no hero moments that make you feel like a great players if you don't win in such a glorious way. And bad players must win sometimes, too. Otherwise they would stop giving money to Wargaming. Hero moments also prove that MM is not rigged and that RNG is truly 110% random. When you play a lot of games, most of them have to be unbalanced thanks to the Gaussian normal distribution. There is absolutely nothing bad/wrong with having all the time unbalanced games.

Take off your tin foil hat and you will start enjoying tremendously the World of Tanks like we all do. Roll out and give them nothing!


Edited by _1111_, 14 September 2019 - 05:12 AM.


HassenderZerhacker #2 Posted 14 September 2019 - 04:01 AM

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in before qpranger !



spamhamstar #3 Posted 14 September 2019 - 04:22 AM

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I disagree as quite clearly the only way to achive an 85% win rate is through rigging.  It simply wouldn't be possible if mm & rng were indeed random :sceptic:

BeefCrtinBandit #4 Posted 14 September 2019 - 05:48 AM

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View PostHassenderZerhacker, on 14 September 2019 - 04:01 AM, said:

in before qpranger !

I can feel his shill coming now....



AXIS_OF_RESISTANCE #5 Posted 14 September 2019 - 05:54 AM

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Why the obsession with winning just drive around and shoot tanks ,if your good at doing dmg you will get high winrate ezpz .

Alukat123 #6 Posted 14 September 2019 - 06:10 AM

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maybe leave tier 3/4 and move up to tier 9/10 =)
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View PostAXIS_OF_RESISTANCE, on 14 September 2019 - 05:54 AM, said:

Why the obsession with winning just drive around and shoot tanks ,if your good at doing dmg you will get high winrate ezpz .

 

is it? The other day i saw a player with about 1800 WN8 and sub 48% WR in past 30 days...


Edited by Alukat123, 14 September 2019 - 06:15 AM.


AXIS_OF_RESISTANCE #7 Posted 14 September 2019 - 06:20 AM

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View PostAlukat123, on 14 September 2019 - 06:10 AM, said:

maybe leave tier 3/4 and move up to tier 9/10 =)
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is it? The other day i saw a player with about 1800 WN8 and sub 48% WR in past 30 days...

Link ? and you change it from 2000 to 1800 why ?

and losing streaks exist this is screen shot of me from 07/24/2019 3k WN8 with 48%:coin:.

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Edited by AXIS_OF_RESISTANCE, 14 September 2019 - 06:37 AM.


the_nebuchadnezzar #8 Posted 14 September 2019 - 06:20 AM

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View PostAlukat123, on 14 September 2019 - 05:10 AM, said:

maybe leave tier 3/4 and move up to tier 9/10 =)

Leave him where he is. Once he left tier 3 he will get to 52% WR and then start to be a bitter player like all of us are...



Alukat123 #9 Posted 14 September 2019 - 06:39 AM

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View PostAXIS_OF_RESISTANCE, on 14 September 2019 - 06:20 AM, said:

Link ? and you change it from 2000 to 1800 why ?

 

https://de.wot-life.com/eu/player/hazbin/

Wasn't sure if it was 2000 or 1800 for 30 days, so to be safe i changed it to 1800



AXIS_OF_RESISTANCE #10 Posted 14 September 2019 - 06:48 AM

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View PostAlukat123, on 14 September 2019 - 06:39 AM, said:

 

https://de.wot-life.com/eu/player/hazbin/

Wasn't sure if it was 2000 or 1800 for 30 days, so to be safe i changed it to 1800

1800 avg in T9 :child:is nowhere good KEKW.

View PostAXIS_OF_RESISTANCE, on 14 September 2019 - 05:54 AM, said:

Why the obsession with winning just drive around and shoot tanks ,if your good at doing dmg you will get high winrate ezpz .

 

 


Edited by AXIS_OF_RESISTANCE, 14 September 2019 - 06:49 AM.


_1111_ #11 Posted 14 September 2019 - 06:55 AM

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View Postspamhamstar, on 14 September 2019 - 04:22 AM, said:

I disagree as quite clearly the only way to achive an 85% win rate is through rigging.  It simply wouldn't be possible if mm & rng were indeed random :sceptic:

 

Damn, why did you have to reveal me my stats? I don't want to know mine or anyone's stats. They have nothing to do with skill at least in my case.



Alukat123 #12 Posted 14 September 2019 - 07:03 AM

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View PostAXIS_OF_RESISTANCE, on 14 September 2019 - 06:48 AM, said:

1800 avg in T9 :child:is nowhere good KEKW.

 

 

https://en.wot-life.com/

 

1250-1599 WN8 is rated good

1900-2349 WN8 is rated great

 

So he's certainly better than good at dealing damage, just not unicum/super unicum levels good.


Edited by Alukat123, 14 September 2019 - 07:04 AM.


AXIS_OF_RESISTANCE #13 Posted 14 September 2019 - 07:16 AM

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View PostAlukat123, on 14 September 2019 - 07:03 AM, said:

https://en.wot-life.com/

 

1250-1599 WN8 is rated good

1900-2349 WN8 is rated great

 

So he's certainly better than good at dealing damage, just not unicum/super unicum levels good.

View PostAXIS_OF_RESISTANCE, on 14 September 2019 - 05:54 AM, said:

Why the obsession with winning just drive around and shoot tanks ,if your good at doing dmg you will get high winrate ezpz .

dmg is different than wn8 learn the difference :child:.

good for t9 is +3k dmg 

wn8 is a stupid metric different tanks give different wn8 values for same dmg 

back to my original post dmg dmg and DAMAGE .


Edited by AXIS_OF_RESISTANCE, 14 September 2019 - 07:21 AM.


spamhamstar #14 Posted 14 September 2019 - 07:32 AM

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View Post_1111_, on 14 September 2019 - 05:55 AM, said:

 

Damn, why did you have to reveal me my stats? I don't want to know mine or anyone's stats. They have nothing to do with skill at least in my case.

 

I don't remember saying anything about your, or anyone elses, stats. 

 

I was simply pointing out that over a reasonable sample size, say 2.8k battles, it wouldn't be possible to achieve an 85% win rate, no matter how skillful the player was, unless WG was rigging everything in that persons favour.  An interesting question would be, why would WG want to do that?  Or I guess, if you're determined to make this about you, why would you do that?



NUKLEAR_SLUG #15 Posted 14 September 2019 - 07:50 AM

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View Post_1111_, on 14 September 2019 - 06:55 AM, said:

 

Damn, why did you have to reveal me my stats? I don't want to know mine or anyone's stats. They have nothing to do with skill at least in my case.

 

Yes, they do. 85% WR shows you clearly are skilled at tier 3. So what? It doesn't prove anything different to a professional football team playing against schoolkids. Go play some tier 8-10 and let's see you 'rig' yourself the same WR there when you're playing equally skilled players. 



250swb #16 Posted 14 September 2019 - 08:13 AM

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View Post_1111_, on 14 September 2019 - 02:23 AM, said:

Hero moments also prove that MM is not rigged and that RNG is truly 110% random. 

 

Hero moments are possible, and I also don't believe WG 'rig' games, but as with yourself who've almost exclusively played the two most powerful tanks at tier III and IV players can 'rig' their own games. Of course this 'rigging' can only come from insider knowledge commonly found in the form of having played the game before under a different name, what's this form of stat rigging called, something like rolling or is it re-rigging, or maybe re-rolling?



Alukat123 #17 Posted 14 September 2019 - 09:02 AM

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View PostAXIS_OF_RESISTANCE, on 14 September 2019 - 07:16 AM, said:

 

back to my original post dmg dmg and DAMAGE .

 

nah, pretty sure my WR would have been sub 50% if i & my teammates would always have gone for damage, damage, damage... fortunately they & me usually played for win.



AXIS_OF_RESISTANCE #18 Posted 14 September 2019 - 09:12 AM

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View PostAlukat123, on 14 September 2019 - 09:02 AM, said:

 

 fortunately they & me usually played for win.

what ever makes you happy , ignorance is a bliss .

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Alukat123 #19 Posted 14 September 2019 - 09:21 AM

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View PostAXIS_OF_RESISTANCE, on 14 September 2019 - 09:12 AM, said:

what ever makes you happy , ignorance is a bliss .

 

 

I'm not mad, your statement is just silly. Sure, for you it may workout, but what do you think is going to happen when bad players go for damage, damage, damage, ah right.. you can farm them...



Lagalaza #20 Posted 14 September 2019 - 09:28 AM

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I'm mediocre at best at this game. If I re-rolled and played the two tanks OP plays I reckon I'd manage a 60%+ winrate. But I wouldn't do that because I want the game to survive. Seal-clubbing causes new players to leave the game. Who wants to play a game where you lose all the time? WG should have a performance rating limit for tiers 1-3. Let new players get into the game a little before anyone starts bashing them over the head with a 5 skill crewed, premium equipment loaded, OP tank.




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