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Why does the game not have the Brummbear, Churchill AVRE and SturmTiger tanks?

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Flywheel #1 Posted 18 September 2019 - 03:24 PM

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I see a lot of other brawler tanks, like the KV2 or other howitzer type tanks.

I wonder why these tanks, the Brummbear, SturmTiger and Churchill AVRE are not in the game?

Instead of bringing all these prototypes or drawing-board tanks that never saw any actual service. 

 

Also I am wondering why there is not Historical option in the game, modern tanks against older types is weird. Actual WW2 scenario's would be fun I think.

 

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SupremeMaster #2 Posted 18 September 2019 - 03:46 PM

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I want avre from the start but since the japanese derp incidents game won't be seeing new or at least decent HE guns until the HE shell rework. People are not going to welcome second derps on higher tiers.

EdvinE20 #3 Posted 18 September 2019 - 03:50 PM

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WG made an attempt to add the sturmtiger to the game many years ago, but the fact that it uses more of a rocket launcher than a tank gun, they scrapped the idea as that mechanic doesn't exist in WoT. Yet :B

tajj7 #4 Posted 18 September 2019 - 03:55 PM

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Not sure we need more mid tier derp guns, KV-2, SU-152, Panzer IV, Sherman derp and O-I are brutal enough as it is.

 

The Churchill AVRE would be pretty rubbish as that is only a 76mm derp gun, so what like 200 damage at best?

 

And the Sturmtiger has been talked about before and basically it would be super broken and unbalancable, its a 380mm projectile, and 183mm guns with the British HESH are bad enough, and its like 140mm bigger in than the T92s 240mm gun and that had originally IIRC 2250 damage, so what you'd have to either make artificially small or give it like 3k plus alpha which would be just stupid. 

 

There was also a historical mode way back and it didn't work because every queued up to play the Tigers or Matildas rather than the Shermans and Panzer 2/3s. 



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View PostFlywheel, on 18 September 2019 - 03:24 PM, said:

I see a lot of other brawler tanks, like the KV2 or other howitzer type tanks.

I wonder why these tanks, the Brummbear, SturmTiger and Churchill AVRE are not in the game?

Instead of bringing all these prototypes or drawing-board tanks that never saw any actual service. 

 

Also I am wondering why there is not Historical option in the game, modern tanks against older types is weird. Actual WW2 scenario's would be fun I think.

 

Flywheel

 

Sturmtiger and Churchill AVRE would be arty. And an armoured arty is never welcome. Especially with a potential damage as Sturmtiger. AVRE is just crap as 77m max range is useless. Plus it was not designed as anti tank.

 

Brummbarr can work as a tier 7 TD. It would basically be the german SU-152. 



Thejagdpanther #6 Posted 18 September 2019 - 04:07 PM

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Balancing + game mechanics + whines.
As already wrote a mechanic of that type didnt exist in the game and it looks pretty particular to implement and balancing.

For what we have in the game right now imagine to put togheter, a huge derp gun (much bigger that any other), a huge rage of splash damage, a projectile trajectory between a normal shell, an arty and a derp.

Have you read all the whines and cryes about the type 5? Well, with those tanks they could go skyrockets.

Its more easy and profitable to put in game unrealistic paper tanks that follow in some way the already existing "rules" of the game.

Edited by Thejagdpanther, 18 September 2019 - 04:15 PM.


Xandania #7 Posted 18 September 2019 - 05:35 PM

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View PostFlywheel, on 18 September 2019 - 02:24 PM, said:

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Any relations?

 

on topic:

 

I fear that those tanks would end up taking other tanks niches instead of creating new ones... -



Negativvv #8 Posted 18 September 2019 - 07:05 PM

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Edvin from AEG just posted :ohmy:

 

No more DERPs in game if you ask me, 1 shotting is funny but also meh for balance. 



Nishi_Kinuyo #9 Posted 18 September 2019 - 07:12 PM

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What the game needs are less derps, not more.

Edited by Nishi_Kinuyo, 18 September 2019 - 07:12 PM.


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View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 18 September 2019 - 07:12 PM, said:

What the game needs are less derps, not more.

 

Well arty can go first, then WV, then we can turn on derps? :trollface:



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And how much damage would a 290mm gun firing a 18kg shell do? That and the range of that shell was 91m iirc.

 

Tho WG have tested the SturmTiger. They never could find a good tier for it. And at one point Storm played tested it and was disgusted how broken it was. And not much was heard from it since.



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View PostFlywheel, on 18 September 2019 - 03:24 PM, said:

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I wonder why these tanks, the Brummbear, SturmTiger and Churchill AVRE are not in the game?

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Those tanks are too unrealistic, they do not fit to WoT.

WG instead focus on more realistic tanks, like double-barrel tanks.



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Would you ammorack a Sturmtiger if you shot inside of its gunberrel?

EdvinE20 #14 Posted 22 September 2019 - 05:11 PM

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View PostNegativvv, on 18 September 2019 - 07:05 PM, said:

Edvin from AEG just posted :ohmy:

 

No more DERPs in game if you ask me, 1 shotting is funny but also meh for balance. 

You're telling me the KV-2 is not balanced? :justwait:



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Do we really need more derp cannons in game?
Think about that before making suggestions

Rainbowkiss83 #16 Posted 22 September 2019 - 05:23 PM

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People hates enought arty and u want the sturm tiger? :great:

JocMeister #17 Posted 22 September 2019 - 05:31 PM

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Yeah, just what we need, More stupid things for the 45%ers to sit in bushes for the entire game with.

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View PostEdvinE20, on 22 September 2019 - 04:11 PM, said:

You're telling me the KV-2 is not balanced? :justwait:

KV2 IS balanced....kv5 isn't...gimme kv2 derpgun on kv5!!



Nishi_Kinuyo #19 Posted 22 September 2019 - 05:59 PM

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View PostEdvinE20, on 22 September 2019 - 05:11 PM, said:

You're telling me the KV-2 is not balanced? :justwait:

Seeing as it has a better derp than a tier 10 tank, I'd it is not balanced.



wEight_Tanker #20 Posted 22 September 2019 - 06:40 PM

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Scratch those, we need this thing.

 


Edited by wEight_Tanker, 22 September 2019 - 06:41 PM.





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