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CptDrunky #1 Posted 18 September 2019 - 08:04 PM

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Hello guys, im not sure where i should post this so >>

I need help, i cant find it on google, my spotting is awful, i have T4 Sweden Lago, commander at 59% and other 65% and my spotting is reduced by 454, almost half, what should i do? 



FrantisekBascovansky #2 Posted 18 September 2019 - 08:12 PM

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dont play any tank without at least 75% crew

XxKuzkina_MatxX #3 Posted 18 September 2019 - 08:19 PM

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Hello,

 

  • You can start by mounting binoculars (equipment) to increase your view range.

 

  • Crew training can be accelerated using personal reserves and premium account or retraining your crew for credits or gold.

 

  • Planning things makes for a comfortable, efficient and more enjoyable experience in WOT. Train your crew up the line you're grinding. Don't use a new crew for each tank and select skills and perks carefully and in order.

 

Here are a few videos about how spotting and camo works...

 

 

 

 

Good luck.



Balc0ra #4 Posted 18 September 2019 - 09:04 PM

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View PostCptDrunky, on 18 September 2019 - 08:04 PM, said:

Hello guys, im not sure where i should post this so >>

I need help, i cant find it on google, my spotting is awful, i have T4 Sweden Lago, commander at 59% and other 65% and my spotting is reduced by 454, almost half, what should i do? 

 

Spotting is not really going to be effective until you get 100% base or a crew skill going that helps increase it. Binocs will increase it. But 25% of nothing is still nothing. I know 75% crews costs 20K pr member. But having that for the commander at least to reduce the penalty helps a bit if you can afford it. Vents helps bump it up a bit too. 

 

At times you get personal reserves that can speed up training. Don't be afraid to use them. But look out for events that boost crew XP. They stack and can really help your crew get going, even in a non-premium tank.

 

The only thing you can do with a crew like that is to play 2nd line. Support your main push or the lights spotting as best you can. And try to use anything you can find to increase your camo. If you are alone on your side, fall back to others that can spot better. If you are the last man standing. Then get concealed as best you can and draw them as close as you can using what the videos above showed you.


Edited by Balc0ra, 18 September 2019 - 09:06 PM.


Homer_J #5 Posted 18 September 2019 - 10:38 PM

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View PostCptDrunky, on 18 September 2019 - 08:04 PM, said:

 commander at 59% and other 65% and my spotting is reduced by 454, almost half, what should i do? 

Hide and let someone else do the spotting.



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I know crews can be expensive early game but seriously consider spending the silver to get a 75% crew commander if yours is that low... not only does the commander affect your spotting range, and the more you spot the more experience and credits you tend to earn as you earn more assisted damage, your commander also gives 10% of his skill level to the remaining crew. So a better commander makes your entire tank better, and earn more. Any credit-bought commander will earn his purchase price back over time.

kubawt112 #7 Posted 18 September 2019 - 11:24 PM

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Remember that a crew trained to 100% put into a same-class vehicle will perform at 75% even without retraining them. Rather useful for low-tier grinds - e.g. if you have a T-54 commander with 'sixth sense', he can do a decent job in a T-28, and the 'sixth sense' perk works still. Not applicable in your case, sadly, but you can often use the 100% crew you get from the Tier 1 tank up to T3-4, and save some credits that way.

 

Also, err, keep in mind that some people have rather good crews even at these tiers, and know how magic bushes can be. The Swedish low-tier tanks should do a fair job fighting on hills, though, which makes spotting/camo values less crucial than if you were to fight in open terrain.


Edited by kubawt112, 18 September 2019 - 11:26 PM.


Stevies_Team #8 Posted 18 September 2019 - 11:39 PM

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Help, understanding spotting

 

Sometimes it works...

 

and sometimes you wonder wtf is going on....

 

There you go

Glad I could help



Jauhesammutin #9 Posted 19 September 2019 - 11:05 AM

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View PostIf_I_Die_You_Die_Too, on 18 September 2019 - 10:39 PM, said:

Help, understanding spotting

 

Sometimes it works...

 

and sometimes you wonder wtf is going on....

 

There you go

Glad I could help

Spotting follows a very simple formula.

If you have an uninterrupted line of sight to a tank and your spotting range is more than the distance between you and the tank, you are going to spot it. If your spotting range is less then you aren't going to spot it.

 



Bora_BOOM #10 Posted 19 September 2019 - 11:15 AM

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The best thing in spotting mechanics is the moment when you get so much experience playing under the mechanic's rules that you start to "feel" what is going on. That gut feeling can make you realize that you are spotted before your 6th sense bulb goes on. The worst thing about it is when you discard the feeling and you get punished for it.

Baldrickk #11 Posted 19 September 2019 - 12:55 PM

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View PostJauhesammutin, on 19 September 2019 - 11:05 AM, said:

Spotting follows a very simple formula.

If you have an uninterrupted line of sight to a tank and your spotting range is more than the distance between you and the tank, you are going to spot it. If your spotting range is less then you aren't going to spot it.

 

Not quite, camo rating eats into your spotting range.

 

If (spotting range - camo) > range then spotted



Balc0ra #12 Posted 19 September 2019 - 01:14 PM

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View PostJauhesammutin, on 19 September 2019 - 11:05 AM, said:

Spotting follows a very simple formula.

If you have an uninterrupted line of sight to a tank and your spotting range is more than the distance between you and the tank, you are going to spot it. If your spotting range is less then you aren't going to spot it.

 

 

Not really. To add to what Baldrickk said... If you have a tank in the open with 50% camo. He will be as tricky to spot as a 4% camo tank behind a bush giving him 50% extra.

 

So a tank with 390m view range, vs a target with 50% camo in the open. He has to be 220m away to even have a chance to see it. With 4% camo in the open, 376m is enough. So even a small camo factor is enough to reduce the effective spotting range even a little.


Edited by Balc0ra, 19 September 2019 - 01:14 PM.


Jauhesammutin #13 Posted 19 September 2019 - 02:46 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 19 September 2019 - 12:14 PM, said:

 

Not really. To add to what Baldrickk said... If you have a tank in the open with 50% camo. He will be as tricky to spot as a 4% camo tank behind a bush giving him 50% extra.

 

So a tank with 390m view range, vs a target with 50% camo in the open. He has to be 220m away to even have a chance to see it. With 4% camo in the open, 376m is enough. So even a small camo factor is enough to reduce the effective spotting range even a little.

Yea, forgot to add "your spotting range after camo values".



MarcoStrapone #14 Posted 19 September 2019 - 03:27 PM

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jump to 4:35 (if not open) , the best you can get. after you watch skill. the fear to be spotter, gone.


Edited by MarcoStrapone, 19 September 2019 - 03:28 PM.


Captain_Kremen0 #15 Posted 20 September 2019 - 08:32 AM

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When you have elited the tank (researched and bought all the modules) - make sure you have accelerated crew training switched on if you are going to keep the tank.


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Stevies_Team #16 Posted 20 September 2019 - 09:30 AM

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I get the impression that there is  a queuing system when I play against tier 10s in my tier 8s

The tier 10s get the spotting priority in a one on one situation and this allows them to get a quick shot off before you even have them lit up

It's only 0.3 of a second kinda thing but in a fast face off it matters



Baldrickk #17 Posted 20 September 2019 - 10:45 AM

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View PostStevies_Team, on 20 September 2019 - 09:30 AM, said:

I get the impression that there is  a queuing system when I play against tier 10s in my tier 8s

The tier 10s get the spotting priority in a one on one situation and this allows them to get a quick shot off before you even have them lit up

It's only 0.3 of a second kinda thing but in a fast face off it matters

They probably spot first because they have a larger view range, so the target comes into range for them before it comes into range for you.







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