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Poll: How do you like light tanks on your teams? (52 members have cast votes)

You have to complete 250 battle in order to participate this poll.

Do you want to see a lot of light tanks together in matches (4-8 per team and very few in others?)

  1. Yes, the more the merrier! (15 votes [28.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.85%

  2. No, [edited by mods and I got warned for using a negative word about this class of vehicles] (37 votes [71.15%])

    Percentage of vote: 71.15%

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iMagniFico #1 Posted 21 September 2019 - 01:11 AM

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So I had 16 in one match earlier today. I have been seeing a lot of lights when I play lights lately, but this was by far the most. How many of you are seeing this? I'd post a pic but I might get banned. I posted on reddit earlier. not much response from people there.  

 

Am I complaining? No, it just brings tier1-3 level gameplay up to tier7+ that's all :) that chaos.

 

Thoughts - good bad no difference? I've added a poll question for this.


Edited by iMagniFico, 22 September 2019 - 04:33 PM.
This message has been edited by the moderation team due to some inappropriate language.


PowJay #2 Posted 21 September 2019 - 01:28 AM

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A particularly biased poll with totally unnecessary use of the C word.

 

Good job

 



XxKuzkina_MatxX #3 Posted 21 September 2019 - 01:30 AM

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There are extreme cases like these...

 

Spoiler

 

but WG's official response is:

 

  • We are working on making the MM algorithm better to avoid these scenarios.
  • They aren't happening that often but people tend to remember the extreme cases of MM.


iMagniFico #4 Posted 21 September 2019 - 02:18 AM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 21 September 2019 - 01:30 AM, said:

There are extreme cases like these...

 

Spoiler

 

but WG's official response is:

 

  • We are working on making the MM algorithm better to avoid these scenarios.
  • They aren't happening that often but people tend to remember the extreme cases of MM.


These are forking awesome! I usually get 8=10 lights in a match, the 16 was the max, but glad it's happening even more frequently.  I must load more HE!



Steeleye_Spam #5 Posted 22 September 2019 - 10:26 AM

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its called Tier 3 isn't it?

Stevies_Team #6 Posted 22 September 2019 - 11:06 AM

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Its the Matchmaking meta

With all these heavily armoured tier 9s and 10s running about like jackrabbits on 300pen 450 viewrange and 60% camo tier 8 has only one option left, lights and mediums



TankkiPoju #7 Posted 22 September 2019 - 02:01 PM

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I play light tanks or fast meds because driving around in heavies isn't fun because you get bombarded by arty in every game.



iMagniFico #8 Posted 22 September 2019 - 04:34 PM

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OMG LUL

View PostPowJay, on 21 September 2019 - 01:28 AM, said:

A particularly biased poll with totally unnecessary use of the C word.

 

Good job

 

 

you reported me. Nice guy!!!



PowJay #9 Posted 22 September 2019 - 05:08 PM

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View PostiMagniFico, on 22 September 2019 - 03:34 PM, said:

OMG LUL

 

you reported me. Nice guy!!!

Nope. I just posted an opinion.

 

Edit: Clearly someone else reported you. Maybe you should think about what you post in the future. 

 

Note: I actually agree that there are too many LTs in many battles but I can't make use of your poll as it stood.


Edited by PowJay, 22 September 2019 - 05:38 PM.


Vela_ZG #10 Posted 22 September 2019 - 07:38 PM

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Why the F would anyone like that? Especially if some light tank player is trying to do the missions? What a stupid poll.

iMagniFico #11 Posted 26 September 2019 - 05:52 PM

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The public has spoken - 72% does NOT want to see this kind of MM.

8126Jakobsson #12 Posted 26 September 2019 - 07:33 PM

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I'd like to be the only one. :child:

Cobra6 #13 Posted 27 September 2019 - 07:23 AM

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At least it's a skill based class so good players will do well in them and bad players will do bad. Unlike dumb heavies where good players will do good and bad players will also do good because they are kept alive artificially for longer.

 

View PostiMagniFico, on 26 September 2019 - 04:52 PM, said:

The public has spoken - 72% does NOT want to see this kind of MM.


No they haven't, your sample size is way too small and you are hosting a poll when most people are still asleep.

 

Cobra 6


Edited by Cobra6, 27 September 2019 - 07:23 AM.


tajj7 #14 Posted 27 September 2019 - 08:40 AM

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Don't think I have ever seen more than about 4 a side to be honest and even that is rare, most games have like 0-3 and I don't really think this is as a problem.

 

If there is one class that is not that problematic if there is a lot of it in one game, its probably lights or meds, I'd take 8 lights as side in a game than 8 OP heavies or 8 tier 10 tank destroyers and I'd take 8 lights a side over 3 arty.

 

Lights and mediums are the two classes with the least amount of broken/OP tanks. 

 

Also I have not voted in the poll because it's silly and there is don't care/this is not a problem option. 


Edited by tajj7, 27 September 2019 - 08:42 AM.


SuperOlsson #15 Posted 27 September 2019 - 08:57 AM

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Those battles are kinda fun. Maybe people are getting tired of playing heavies and going to the same brawling spots in a corridor, just to face some OP hulldown tank supported by invisible TDs in dense bushes 100 meters from their base, while feeling the dynamic gameplay provided by arty? Playing light tanks at least gives more variety in gameplay than TDs and heavies.

Edited by SuperOlsson, 27 September 2019 - 08:59 AM.


Amun_RA #16 Posted 27 September 2019 - 09:49 AM

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08:56 Added after 6 minute

View PostCobra6, on 27 September 2019 - 06:23 AM, said:

At least it's a skill based class so good players will do well in them and bad players will do bad. Unlike dumb heavies where good players will do good and bad players will also do good because they are kept alive artificially for longer.

 


No they haven't, your sample size is way too small and you are hosting a poll when most people are still asleep.

 

Cobra 6

 

I really hate the current meta. There are way, way, way too many lights in a game and when there also are WVs the battle becomes extremely chaotic, no room for much tactic or 'sneakyness'. And I also hate it when there is only one WV per battle, so only one side has it. There should always be another WV on the other side in order to counter it.

 

I get it that you like lights. But WV are overtuned at the moment. I also like my tier 8 EBR very much but I really hate it when I have to play against it. Because only some of the current maps are really open and usually you can easily get spotted by an aggressive WV. Tier 8 EBR seems better overall even than ELC (although it has ninja-like camo). 


Edited by Amun_RA, 27 September 2019 - 09:51 AM.


Cobra6 #17 Posted 27 September 2019 - 11:27 AM

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View PostAmun_RA, on 27 September 2019 - 08:49 AM, said:

08:56 Added after 6 minute

 

I really hate the current meta. There are way, way, way too many lights in a game and when there also are WVs the battle becomes extremely chaotic, no room for much tactic or 'sneakyness'. And I also hate it when there is only one WV per battle, so only one side has it. There should always be another WV on the other side in order to counter it.

 

I get it that you like lights. But WV are overtuned at the moment. I also like my tier 8 EBR very much but I really hate it when I have to play against it. Because only some of the current maps are really open and usually you can easily get spotted by an aggressive WV. Tier 8 EBR seems better overall even than ELC (although it has ninja-like camo). 


That is because, despite the nice win ratio, the ELC EVEN90 is one of the least competitive light tanks in the game. Offensively it's as useful as a garbage can with the gun-handling, DPM and penetration.

 

Funny you mention there is no room for tactics or sneaky-ness. If that was the case then how come I do manage it in my light tanks when I play them? 

Bad players in light tanks just drive around like maniacs doing very little, good players in light tanks you'll probably never see until it's too late.

 

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FrantisekBascovansky #18 Posted 27 September 2019 - 12:36 PM

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1 or 2 lights per team are enough (SPGs as well).

 



Amun_RA #19 Posted 27 September 2019 - 12:54 PM

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View PostCobra6, on 27 September 2019 - 10:27 AM, said:

 

Funny you mention there is no room for tactics or sneaky-ness. If that was the case then how come I do manage it in my light tanks when I play them? 

Bad players in light tanks just drive around like maniacs doing very little, good players in light tanks you'll probably never see until it's too late.

 

Cobra 6

 

What I mean is you cannot get into a very good bush in an aggressive position to camp in your normal light if there is an aggressive WV player, because he will spot you and you might be sniped and killed instantly. If you don't get into an aggressive position in a bush and stay in a 'safer' one in order to not be spotted by a WV, you might not spot enough for your team or for your mission. I think it is clearly harder now to get some light missions done when there is a good WV player in the opposing team.

 

Do you think if I get Malinovka or Prokhorovka in my tier 8 EBR I leave normal lights who camp in the 1 line open field to do their thing? I try to spot them and harass them as well as possible and it usually works. You might say they should camp further in the back so I could not spot them. OK but then they don't really spot for their team unless they have binos and good crews and not even then they cannot see the enemy through all those bushes from far away.

 

Maybe you will say you stay in a 'safe' bush in your normal light and spot the WV first and your team will snipe him. Good luck relying on your team to snipe a WV, especially when it creates chaos in your team, if your team is bad at sniping and in a game heavily reliant on RNG :)

 

I am average player but I have 60% wins in tier 8 EBR after around 200 battles. There are also very good players who consider WV are too overtuned.

 

I repeat: I like very much to play EBR but I have to admit that it doesn't seem to be well balanced. We should not defend a tank class only because we like to play it, just like many arty players do. 


Edited by Amun_RA, 27 September 2019 - 12:56 PM.


Cobra6 #20 Posted 27 September 2019 - 01:23 PM

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The EBR premium is the only one that is competitively balanced out of the bunch though which is WG's tradition, the premium is always (much) better then the free tank of the tier.

 

As for spotting in the LT, you have much more view range so use that to light up the WV.

 

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