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reklakazala #1 Posted 22 September 2019 - 08:10 AM

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wich one is now good, wich soviet tank tier 8-10 can ricochet ?

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XxKuzkina_MatxX #2 Posted 22 September 2019 - 08:19 AM

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Nothing changed with the Soviet tech tree in the last 4 months i am happy to report. So if you want to do a blocking mission you can use the IS-7 or the 268V4.

 

BUT...

 

There might be a new soviet line coming soon to the game, the double barreled heavies. I guess they won't bounce much but if you want to grind a new line while it's still hot read the thread to know more about them.



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IS-4 line is still the best to bounce missions. 

Bounce x2 your HP? T-150 or KV-4

Bounce huge amount of damage? KV-4, ST-1 or IS-4 all works wonder. IS-4 is bad in many aspects, but armour is not.

 

And, as Kuz said, there is the new double barreled line incoming. ST-2 turret should be at least the same of ST-1, so bouncing lot of stuff is granted. The hull is a major unkown IMO. If it's the same as ST-1, won't be that strong at tier 10. But if it's something like IS-4... Well, many will struggle to take down a tank that combine IS-4 hull and ST-1 turret with a bonus second gun! :D



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View PostDava_117, on 22 September 2019 - 08:34 AM, said:

IS-4 line is still the best to bounce missions. 

Bounce x2 your HP? T-150 or KV-4

Bounce huge amount of damage? KV-4, ST-1 or IS-4 all works wonder. IS-4 is bad in many aspects, but armour is not.

 

And, as Kuz said, there is the new double barreled line incoming. ST-2 turret should be at least the same of ST-1, so bouncing lot of stuff is granted. The hull is a major unkown IMO. If it's the same as ST-1, won't be that strong at tier 10. But if it's something like IS-4... Well, many will struggle to take down a tank that combine IS-4 hull and ST-1 turret with a bonus second gun! :D


side armour of is4 is good, frontally it’s pretty tragic for a tier X slow heavy 



PayMore #5 Posted 22 September 2019 - 10:05 AM

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WG has promised to fixx/buff the IS4, and WG allways stick to their promises. It prolly just a few prem tanks in the pipline now before its fixxed.

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View Postxx984, on 22 September 2019 - 10:00 AM, said:


side armour of is4 is good, frontally it’s pretty tragic for a tier X slow heavy 

 

Unangled and head on, sure. But, to be fair, in none of the tank on the line you should fight enemies unangled.

Armour is really the only thing I can't complain on that tank, the only thing that gives it an edge over the RHM PZW to not be the worst tier 10 tank. :)

 

View PostPayMore, on 22 September 2019 - 10:05 AM, said:

WG has promised to fixx/buff the IS4, and WG allways stick to their promises. It prolly just a few prem tanks in the pipline now before its fixxed.

 

WG said they are waiting for the great ammo rework to see if it helps the tank. Which means that probably they don't even know what the tank problem are, as shell number, gun handling and DPM are the real problem of the tank. And those aspects won't get fixed by ammo remake... :facepalm:



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View PostDava_117, on 22 September 2019 - 09:34 AM, said:

IS-4 line is still the best to bounce missions. 

Bounce x2 your HP? T-150 or KV-4

Bounce huge amount of damage? KV-4, ST-1 or IS-4 all works wonder. IS-4 is bad in many aspects, but armour is not.

 

And, as Kuz said, there is the new double barreled line incoming. ST-2 turret should be at least the same of ST-1, so bouncing lot of stuff is granted. The hull is a major unkown IMO. If it's the same as ST-1, won't be that strong at tier 10. But 

 

Well, I'm gonna add the SU-1001M line to it. As that alone is great for the 2x missions etc. And the new Obj 704 looks to have a IS-3 ish turret. So it remains to see if that top plate is as easy to overmatch. But I suspect due to how the front real estate looks on the two shown tanks so far, it will take more critical hits more so then bounces close up on the mantle. Or at least I hope it won't.

 

View PostDava_117, on 22 September 2019 - 10:12 AM, said:

 

WG said they are waiting for the great ammo rework to see if it helps the tank. Which means that probably they don't even know what the tank problem are

 

It seems each time they talk about it, they really don't know what direction to pull it due to the line it's on, as it's still the odd one out vs the rest. 



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View PostDava_117, on 22 September 2019 - 09:12 AM, said:

 

Unangled and head on, sure. But, to be fair, in none of the tank on the line you should fight enemies unangled.

Armour is really the only thing I can't complain on that tank, the only thing that gives it an edge over the RHM PZW to not be the worst tier 10 tank. :)

 

 

WG said they are waiting for the great ammo rework to see if it helps the tank. Which means that probably they don't even know what the tank problem are, as shell number, gun handling and DPM are the real problem of the tank. And those aspects won't get fixed by ammo remake... :facepalm:

But even when you angle it, its still worse than the other slow tier 10 heavies. And that turret doesn't help with the roof overmatch, and the shot trap. I guess against tier 8's its pretty good but the majority of tier 10 battles are full tier 10 atm anyway as tier 10 MM is still sh*t



reklakazala #9 Posted 28 September 2019 - 06:05 PM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 22 September 2019 - 08:19 AM, said:

Nothing changed with the Soviet tech tree in the last 4 months i am happy to report. So if you want to do a blocking mission you can use the IS-7 or the 268V4.

 

BUT...

 

There might be a new soviet line coming soon to the game, the double barreled heavies. I guess they won't bounce much but if you want to grind a new line while it's still hot read the thread to know more about them.

dont have is7, i sold it and buy obj 430 tier 10.

but it have lost capability to angle shots

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View PostBalc0ra, on 22 September 2019 - 11:33 AM, said:

 

Well, I'm gonna add the SU-1001M line to it. As that alone is great for the 2x missions etc. And the new Obj 704 looks to have a IS-3 ish turret. So it remains to see if that top plate is as easy to overmatch. But I suspect due to how the front real estate looks on the two shown tanks so far, it will take more critical hits more so then bounces close up on the mantle. Or at least I hope it won't.

 

 

It seems each time they talk about it, they really don't know what direction to pull it due to the line it's on, as it's still the odd one out vs the rest. 

not interested in camping style playing this game

armor vehicles are invented in ww1 to speed up movement of troops



Inappropriate_noob #10 Posted 29 September 2019 - 09:10 AM

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View Postreklakazala, on 28 September 2019 - 06:05 PM, said:

dont have is7, i sold it and buy obj 430 tier 10.

but it have lost capability to angle shots

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not interested in camping style playing this game

armor vehicles are invented in ww1 to speed up movement of troops

You sold the IS 7,like the best T 10 heavy there is?

 

 

 

 

 

Steve is cross and would like a word:D



Karasu_Hidesuke #11 Posted 29 September 2019 - 10:22 AM

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It's amazing how unfairly WG is treating Russian tanks. :mellow:

reklakazala #12 Posted 29 September 2019 - 11:07 AM

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View PostNoobySkooby, on 29 September 2019 - 09:10 AM, said:

You sold the IS 7,like the best T 10 heavy there is?

 

 

 

 

 

Steve is cross and would like a word:D

well after balance he was not so fast, it goes now 20-30 kmh instead 50. nose is made of glass , sides also.changed it for obj 430U , but now same thing happen with 430 U , his days are over.we check at training, T 34-85 can penetrate him.also we put on training jgdpzrt svrmrt that german 2floor house size TD against iS7, slightly angled and ta-da bounce off.while jdghp ourte TD can pen him easy at any distance and any angle



vasilinhorulezz #13 Posted 29 September 2019 - 01:00 PM

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430U, Object 268 V4, IS 7 still viable, 140 also, you can also try the sidescrappers of the 705 line. Don't play the K 91, it isn't worth, 268 also not worth it (although the 704 is still good, same for the IS-4 line), and stay away from arta, ALWAYS.

Edited by vasilinhorulezz, 29 September 2019 - 01:00 PM.


reklakazala #14 Posted 29 September 2019 - 01:19 PM

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View PostKarasu_Hidesuke, on 29 September 2019 - 10:22 AM, said:

It's amazing how unfairly WG is treating Russian tanks. :mellow:

thzere is not single soviet tank wich is OP or U can easy win with it.one shot and ammo storage is blown up, or driver killed. unaccurate , gun, guns cant pen 90% of their opponents ( same tier same class tank) and so on



reklakazala #15 Posted 29 September 2019 - 01:29 PM

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View Postvasilinhorulezz, on 29 September 2019 - 01:00 PM, said:

430U, Object 268 V4, IS 7 still viable, 140 also, you can also try the sidescrappers of the 705 line. Don't play the K 91, it isn't worth, 268 also not worth it (although the 704 is still good, same for the IS-4 line), and stay away from arta, ALWAYS.

just played with obj 430U, not single shot bounced,also with obj 252. t34-85 from side ( angled) can pen him.so NO, not true






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