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ziratulbihac #1 Posted 25 September 2019 - 09:06 AM

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Imagine they decide to increase armor from 160 to 170 and hp/t to 18. 

 

"Since many users complained that armor of Object 430U can be easily penetrated with premium ammunition, we have decided to increase the armor of the vehicle" -Wargaming 

 

How would you react? Would that surprise you? 


Edited by ziratulbihac, 25 September 2019 - 09:09 AM.


Dava_117 #2 Posted 25 September 2019 - 09:10 AM

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View Postziratulbihac, on 25 September 2019 - 09:06 AM, said:

Imagine they decide to increase armor from 160 to 170 and hp/t to 18. 

 

How would you react? Would that surprise you? 

 

Yes, I would be surprised as they already said they know 430U is too strong.

But, who knows... Maybe in 3 years WG can manage to powercreep 430U too...



bushmechanic #3 Posted 25 September 2019 - 09:16 AM

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This tank need to buffed :trollface:

Cobra6 #4 Posted 25 September 2019 - 09:18 AM

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It wouldn't surprise me at all because Wargaming has had a tendency for years to buff tanks that don't really need it while ignoring others that have been in *DIRE* need of buffing, sometimes even for years (T-34-2, TVP VTU, AMX65t, Churchill VII, Churchill GC, AMX M4 45, 110, Panther II, Tiger(P) etc.).

 

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chinchillah #5 Posted 25 September 2019 - 09:19 AM

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I'd like to see object e100 or object amx 65t coming into the game.

 

 

E100 with speed like pre nerfed 2684 and 705a/is7 turret. Gun could stay same except for 400heat pen. 

 

Would be balanced cause gun is not accurate. 


Edited by chinchillah, 25 September 2019 - 09:22 AM.


Mimos_A #6 Posted 25 September 2019 - 10:00 AM

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I would be surprised with a buff. I would by no means be surprised if they decide to compensate any nerf with some ridiculous "adjustment" that alround makes it even more broken though. You know, something genius like a nerf to gun handling, but a buff to lower plate because otherwise it's too weak...

Edited by Mimos_A, 25 September 2019 - 10:03 AM.


reddog102 #7 Posted 25 September 2019 - 10:17 AM

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Following latest discovery of new super metal “Stalinumite” in former soviet republics, all Russian tanks of the glorious motherland will now have the equivalent of over 400mm of armour everywhere, so only penetrable by tanks of imperialist dogs when firing extra expensive “wargaming” premium ammo! Ha! Ha! We have shafted you again EU server players! Now it’s pay to play! You still lose of course as all non-RU tanks nerfed accordingly!

Stevies_Team #8 Posted 25 September 2019 - 10:25 AM

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More profitable to introduce a two gun obj 252U2

TankkiPoju #9 Posted 25 September 2019 - 11:02 AM

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It would be classic WG if they "rebalanced" 430U so that it would be just as good or even slightly better.

 



LordMuffin #10 Posted 25 September 2019 - 11:17 AM

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Wouldn't be surprised, it is WG we are talking about.

tajj7 #11 Posted 25 September 2019 - 11:21 AM

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View PostMimos_A, on 25 September 2019 - 09:00 AM, said:

I would be surprised with a buff. I would by no means be surprised if they decide to compensate any nerf with some ridiculous "adjustment" that alround makes it even more broken though. You know, something genius like a nerf to gun handling, but a buff to lower plate because otherwise it's too weak...

 

This, I'd be surprised if they buff it considering they have recognised it is too strong, but it wouldn't surprise me if any 'nerf' saw it got other buffs that overall made it just as strong. 

 

I reckon they'll nerf the armour a little bit, like give it maybe cupolas you can pen more easily, maybe the UFP a little, but then buff like the DPM, mobility and gun handling to compensate so it'll end up as like a 440 alpha Obj. 140 with more amour. 



TankkiPoju #12 Posted 25 September 2019 - 11:33 AM

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View Posttajj7, on 25 September 2019 - 11:21 AM, said:

 

This, I'd be surprised if they buff it considering they have recognised it is too strong, but it wouldn't surprise me if any 'nerf' saw it got other buffs that overall made it just as strong. 

 

I reckon they'll nerf the armour a little bit, like give it maybe cupolas you can pen more easily, maybe the UFP a little, but then buff like the DPM, mobility and gun handling to compensate so it'll end up as like a 440 alpha Obj. 140 with more amour. 

 

6 degrees of gun depression.

 

Slightly less armor, but better mobility. Still no turret weakspots frontally.

 

Better gun handling.

 

Boom, even better 430U.

 


Edited by TankkiPoju, 25 September 2019 - 11:33 AM.


fwhaatpiraat #13 Posted 25 September 2019 - 11:37 AM

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+2 degrees of gun depression, better gun handling, tiny weakspots on hull and turret. Would be a nice 'rebalance' after 'listening to the community'.

Edited by fwhaatpiraat, 25 September 2019 - 11:37 AM.


Balc0ra #14 Posted 25 September 2019 - 11:50 AM

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View Posttajj7, on 25 September 2019 - 11:21 AM, said:

 

This, I'd be surprised if they buff it considering they have recognised it is too strong, but it wouldn't surprise me if any 'nerf' saw it got other buffs that overall made it just as strong.

 

True... But then again if the old Murazor lead crew had said it. I would not have been surprised at all. 



Kartoshkaya #15 Posted 25 September 2019 - 12:49 PM

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Just wait for the STII mate

ziratulbihac #16 Posted 25 September 2019 - 01:28 PM

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View PostKartoshkaya, on 25 September 2019 - 11:49 AM, said:

Just wait for the STII mate

 

Yeah with armor on the level of Cruisers and Battleships



Kartoshkaya #17 Posted 25 September 2019 - 01:30 PM

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View Postziratulbihac, on 25 September 2019 - 01:28 PM, said:

 

Yeah with armor on the level of Cruisers and Battleships

Then you won't be surprised when you see it floating on water.



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Poll?

pecopad #19 Posted 25 September 2019 - 01:46 PM

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It makes sense, no reward tanks should be better than  the tree ones...

 

Just make it like the obj 907..

 

And instead of complaining why don't people just grind the 430U and play it...


Edited by pecopad, 25 September 2019 - 01:48 PM.


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View Postziratulbihac, on 25 September 2019 - 11:36 AM, said:

Imagine they decide to increase armor from 160 to 170 and hp/t to 18. 

 

"Since many users complained that armor of Object 430U can be easily penetrated with premium ammunition, we have decided to increase the armor of the vehicle" -Wargaming 

 

How would you react? Would that surprise you? 

 

Oh yeah? Then what about E100? Maus? IS 7, IS 4, Jg.panzer e100? E4? E5?

Want me to count more?

WG cares about RU server. Obj 430U needs buff while other tanks that really require buffing are forgotten...

I won't be surprised if i see that one day WG decides to even buff obj 279e's armour.






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