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Leroy_Jenkinss #1 Posted 25 September 2019 - 08:49 PM

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Almost end of the year and still no promised buffs WarGaming.Seems like player base forgot about E100 line.

Sardo_Numspa #2 Posted 25 September 2019 - 08:55 PM

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Yeah WG . . .  make E100 wheeled :bush:

1ucky #3 Posted 25 September 2019 - 09:33 PM

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View PostSardo_Numspa, on 25 September 2019 - 08:55 PM, said:

Yeah WG . . .  make E100 wheeled :bush:

 

That would be the W100.

300m view range, 130 tons, whee!

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Neodymium9 #4 Posted 25 September 2019 - 10:04 PM

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If it's not russian don't expect any buffs anytime soon

gitgud_cannot #5 Posted 25 September 2019 - 10:27 PM

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View PostNeodymium9, on 25 September 2019 - 11:04 PM, said:

If it's not russian don't expect any buffs anytime soon

it will get buffed/changed, same time as is-4, when they finally decide what they will do with prem ammo.



Rainbowkiss83 #6 Posted 25 September 2019 - 11:06 PM

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Buff kv5!!!

Negativvv #7 Posted 26 September 2019 - 03:56 AM

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Just play Lowe...

 

Or the T9 E75 and pretend it's the Tiger II, looks mostly the same.



undutchable80 #8 Posted 26 September 2019 - 05:13 AM

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View PostMajor_Gitgud, on 25 September 2019 - 10:27 PM, said:

it will get buffed/changed, same time as is-4, when they finally decide what they will do with prem ammo.

This. ^^

 

Might take longer than the promised 2019, due to the testing of the ammo changes, but it will happen. Patience. 



Bordhaw #9 Posted 26 September 2019 - 10:28 AM

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View PostLeroy_Jenkinss, on 25 September 2019 - 07:49 PM, said:

Almost end of the year and still no promised buffs WarGaming.Seems like player base forgot about E100 line.

 

WG too busy "fixing" HE again and buffing HP and penetration of Tier 1 to 6 tanks, adding more Russian premium mediums and PvE events. 



tajj7 #10 Posted 26 September 2019 - 10:41 AM

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As mentioned the E100 is a heavy tank that is going to be impacted by the premium ammo changes, so they are waiting for those before doing anything which makes sense because its not like the E100 is super underpowered at the moment -

 

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^ That is it's WR curve for the last 6 months, showing that really nothing drastic needs doing to the tank and the premium ammo change alone could be enough of a buff, so a sensible decision by WG in this instance IMO.

 

There is a real danger that the premium ammo changes could massively buff a lot of heavies, as they are effectively nerfing premium ammo and essentially giving all heavies an HP buff.  Under the changes the E100 will effectively have like 3.5k hit points or something vs HEAT ammo, which is a big buff and to be honest I am not sure it will need much else bar some QOL buffs maybe.

 

Usually when the tier 10 gets looked at the tier 8 and 9 also get looked at as well. Though I doubt the E75 needs any buffs, especially if the premium ammo changes are brought in because it is currently performing fine and is well balanced -

 

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So probably the only one that should receive major changes is the Tiger 2, as I doubt the Tiger 2 is suffering much from premium ammo as standard ammo pens it so easily anyway (plus as a tier 8 it will be downtiered a lot and will need to use it's premium round a lot, which is then getting nerfed). 

 

 



Falathi #11 Posted 26 September 2019 - 11:09 AM

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Just as mentioned above: this line is going to be affected by the proposed rebalance of improved ammo so most likely we`ll see changes to it after or coming along with the ammo changes. 
 

Ancybot #12 Posted 26 September 2019 - 11:16 AM

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View PostFalathi, on 26 September 2019 - 11:09 AM, said:

Just as mentioned above: this line is going to be affected by the proposed rebalance of improved ammo so most likely we`ll see changes to it after or coming along with the ammo changes. 
 

As usual. Make sandbox to pretend you are doing something, but changes are late for 3 years. 4000 people work in wargaming, most of them probably focus on WOT, but in the end changes are slower than companies with 30 employees. This is why this game is such a joke

BTW. Great news from WG Fest
Anonymizer - we knew about this for 3 years at least
dual guns - we also knew about this for like 3 years at least

This is how looks development of this game. Pretend you are testing something for 10 yearS, but you do nothing for 9.5 of year, finally you run bugged rotten potato like crashing race game or make a great news of thing that was announced couple years earlier. LUL

GOOD JOB XDDDDDDDD Now waiting when you introduce these ammo changes since we all can guess how much time passed and you did nothing with it since then - you should accounce ammo changes next month on WG Fest instead of joke like dual barrels and anonymizer which were accounced 999 years ago as "working on it"


@ED. By the way. How much time passed while tiger 2 is complete useless tank? What did you do about this earlier? Now you're telling you wont change anything because of ammo changes. What stopped you before? We all know what

What did you do to make other old tanks like AMX CDC, Pershing, Pattons (including 59 patton), German tanks including 8 and tier 10 or chieftain/t95 viable in any way to meet your powercreeping? Nothing
Powercreep all the way and never look back


Edited by Ancybot, 26 September 2019 - 11:35 AM.


TankkiPoju #13 Posted 26 September 2019 - 12:20 PM

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Tiger 2 is bad because WG wants people to free XP past it. Same as with tanks like Black Prince. They have even admitted in a Q&A there are some tanks in tech trees bad just because of this.

 

If WG really wanted to buff Tiger 2, they could just increase it's DPM. Literally change one parameters in game. Bam. Done.


Edited by TankkiPoju, 26 September 2019 - 12:20 PM.


Negativvv #14 Posted 26 September 2019 - 12:45 PM

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 26 September 2019 - 12:20 PM, said:

Tiger 2 is bad because WG wants people to free XP past it. Same as with tanks like Black Prince. They have even admitted in a Q&A there are some tanks in tech trees bad just because of this.

 

If WG really wanted to buff Tiger 2, they could just increase it's DPM. Literally change one parameters in game. Bam. Done.

Yes, make it a DPM machine like the Tiger I.

 

Despite all the other stuff being "historical" like the weak engine (shared with Panther and Tiger I) when Russians get fantasy turbo engines and solid side armour.



Di3z #15 Posted 07 October 2019 - 06:28 AM

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HassenderZerhacker #16 Posted 07 October 2019 - 05:34 PM

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 26 September 2019 - 12:20 PM, said:

Tiger 2 is bad because WG wants people to free XP past it. Same as with tanks like Black Prince. They have even admitted in a Q&A there are some tanks in tech trees bad just because of this.

 

If WG really wanted to buff Tiger 2, they could just increase it's DPM. Literally change one parameters in game. Bam. Done.

 

yeah... a bit more DPM and also a bit more turret armor. I could well see turret front armor increased to 225mm and 10% more DPM.

Currently, the Tiger II's turret is 185mm cheese, which is a joke when you got things like the AMX M4 mle. 49 driving around with almost 300 effective.

The rest of its armor is thin too, it takes horrible damage from arty.


Edited by HassenderZerhacker, 07 October 2019 - 05:36 PM.





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