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mil71 #1 Posted 28 September 2019 - 11:18 PM

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Literally came back after not playing for like 5 years and everything penetrates the front of my tanks no matter how I angle.

Had someone penetrate the front of my T34's turret over the top of a hill and looked and it was premium ammo, next game someone penetrates the front of my turret like butter and oh look it's premium ammo again.

 

Why did you allow gold ammo to be purchasable with silver? premium was meant to be only for the best clans in clan wars not someone who buys a tank and doesn't know how to play and immediately slaps gold ammo into the cannon.


Edited by mil71, 28 September 2019 - 11:25 PM.


Karasu_Hidesuke #2 Posted 28 September 2019 - 11:30 PM

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If you think that's the worst change in the last 5 years...

 

But yeah, there's a lot of gold flying about, even shot by tier X tanks these days against lower tiers....



mil71 #3 Posted 28 September 2019 - 11:33 PM

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Considering armor angling is part of the gameplay yeah I'd say it's pretty major.

thetartanbaron #4 Posted 28 September 2019 - 11:42 PM

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Welcome to the current meta where, unless you are top tier, armour is worthless and mobility and penetration are key. I blame the matchmaker. If I'm a tier 5 or 6 bottom tier in +/-2 matchmaking and the only chance I have of hurting a tier 7 or 8 medium or heavy is to press the 2 key I'll do it. If I make that choice then the only way to make credits is to have a premium account. Ker-ching goes the Wargaming till. However to be fair it doesn't take premium ammo to penetrate a T-34 from any direction.

mil71 #5 Posted 28 September 2019 - 11:45 PM

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This is the T34 aka American heavy.

If I'm hull down a T-59 or what ever it was shouldn't be penetrating my turret through the mantlet.


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View Postmil71, on 28 September 2019 - 10:18 PM, said:

Why did you allow gold ammo to be purchasable with silver?

Many players complained that only having premium ammo available for Gold was P2W....so, WG fixed it so everyone can fire premium ammo, but players are still complaining.

Be careful what you wish for.:trollface:

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View Postmil71, on 28 September 2019 - 10:45 PM, said:

This is the T34 aka American heavy.

Oh...that old pinata.



Pansenmann #7 Posted 29 September 2019 - 12:04 AM

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View PostKarasu_Hidesuke, on 28 September 2019 - 11:30 PM, said:

If you think that's the worst change in the last 5 years...

 

But yeah, there's a lot of gold flying about, even shot by tier X tanks these days against lower tiers....

 

Indeed, the LT and SPG nerfs are bad.

removing gold cost for consumables and ammo was the right thing to do as it leveled the playing field a bit.



NoobySkooby #8 Posted 29 September 2019 - 12:12 AM

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View Postmil71, on 28 September 2019 - 11:18 PM, said:

Literally came back after not playing for like 5 years and everything penetrates the front of my tanks no matter how I angle.

Had someone penetrate the front of my T34's turret over the top of a hill and looked and it was premium ammo, next game someone penetrates the front of my turret like butter and oh look it's premium ammo again.

 

Why did you allow gold ammo to be purchasable with silver? premium was meant to be only for the best clans in clan wars not someone who buys a tank and doesn't know how to play and immediately slaps gold ammo into the cannon.

Your new here or is this just another I have come back after x amount of years,I cannot believe that for the past five years you have lived under a rock,just too unbelievable.



mil71 #9 Posted 29 September 2019 - 12:13 AM

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View PostNoobySkooby, on 28 September 2019 - 11:12 PM, said:

Your new here or is this just another I have come back after x amount of years,I cannot believe that for the past five years you have lived under a rock,just too unbelievable.

 

Let's put it this way the last time I played the E-100 was released.

And I stopped playing a few weeks after that.



Dr_Blackshark #10 Posted 29 September 2019 - 09:52 AM

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Gold spam is present in the game because it has literally no drawbacks as most of the players run premium accounts.

malachi6 #11 Posted 29 September 2019 - 10:05 AM

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View PostNoobySkooby, on 29 September 2019 - 12:12 AM, said:

Your new here or is this just another I have come back after x amount of years,I cannot believe that for the past five years you have lived under a rock,just too unbelievable.

 

Personal incredulity is not a path to truth.  There is no reason to assume the OP is lying until such time as evidence for such is presented.



gitgud_cannot #12 Posted 29 September 2019 - 10:26 AM

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you know that T34 roof  can be penetrated even with a kv-2 using AP, right? there is no need for gold ammo to penetrate T34s turret, armor just over the mantlet is only 220mm of effective armor as well. the thing is, 5 years ago the knowledge of weakspots were really low, nowadays there are way less clueless potatoes who will shoot your impenetrable angled armor in  hope to penetrate 1 shot out of 20.  

p.s. there are so many tanks in this game which can be penetrated only with gold ammo, if you chose not to load the gold, you essentially lose the game, thats how it is.


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Hopeinen #13 Posted 29 September 2019 - 10:30 AM

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Considering how easy it is to mass credits these days why wouldnt you choose the ammo that has more penetration.

 

Just try to avoid tanks that rely too much on armor alone.

 

 



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What's with the gold ammo spam? You must be new here :trollface:

Gremlin182 #15 Posted 29 September 2019 - 10:51 AM

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Its a game and as a game every tank in a given match must be able to damage all the other tanks in that game in some way.

T34 can obliterate a T59 he has to shoot your cupola if you are hull down.

Even with premium he couldn't pen the front of your turret its 270 minimum and most of it a lot more but we all know your cupola is only 53.

Curiously if it were a type 59 and you were both hull down your would both struggle to pen the others turret

 

You still have the advantage most of the time you can shoot them almost anywhere they have to aim carefully "while not getting shot by you" and probably still use premium.

Premium ammo is real ammo that existed in WW2 and still does also its more expensive to produce and sometimes in short supply.

Game reflects that with the heavier price tag.

 

 

 

 



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View Postmil71, on 29 September 2019 - 12:13 AM, said:

 

Let's put it this way the last time I played the E-100 was released.

And I stopped playing a few weeks after that.

 

Funny thing is that great many of the gold proponents are players with very good stats and skills. Apparently - they have no time to waste on flanking or aiming. They can, if they want too, but '2' is faster. :D

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View PostGremlin182, on 29 September 2019 - 10:51 AM, said:

Its a game and as a game every tank in a given match must be able to damage all the other tanks in that game in some way.

T34 can obliterate a T59 he has to shoot your cupola if you are hull down.

Even with premium he couldn't pen the front of your turret its 270 minimum and most of it a lot more but we all know your cupola is only 53.

Curiously if it were a type 59 and you were both hull down your would both struggle to pen the others turret

 

You still have the advantage most of the time you can shoot them almost anywhere they have to aim carefully "while not getting shot by you" and probably still use premium.

Premium ammo is real ammo that existed in WW2 and still does also its more expensive to produce and sometimes in short supply.

Game reflects that with the heavier price tag.

 

 

 

 



It is not a good reflection if you have virtual cash.

 

So historically accurate game :)
 



barison1 #17 Posted 29 September 2019 - 12:21 PM

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View Postvixu, on 29 September 2019 - 11:05 AM, said:

 

Funny thing is that great many of the gold proponents are players with very good stats and skills. Apparently - they have no time to waste on flanking or aiming. They can, if they want too, but '2' is faster. :D

seen as many tomato bobs spamming gold even when not even needed in the slighest so eh

 

still gold is needed to counter bunch returd proof tanks like jap HT/bobject etc, because why should weakspots exist right?



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View Postbarison1, on 29 September 2019 - 12:21 PM, said:

seen as many tomato bobs spamming gold even when not even needed in the slighest so eh

 

still gold is needed to counter bunch returd proof tanks like jap HT/bobject etc, because why should weakspots exist right?

Bobs spam gold because they can. 

 

As for the ***** proof tanks... it is a point of view "that all should be penetratable from any direction". I, for one, don't share it. 

On the side note, I generally don't use prem ammo (only in very rare missions when damage counts) and I cannot say that w/o it you cannot do anything. 



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View Post, on 28 September 2019 - 11:18 PM, said:

Literally came back after not playing for like 5 years and everything penetrates the front of my tanks no matter how I angle.

Had someone penetrate the front of my T34's turret over the top of a hill and looked and it was premium ammo, next game someone penetrates the front of my turret like butter and oh look it's premium ammo again.

 

Why did you allow gold ammo to be purchasable with silver? premium was meant to be only for the best clans in clan wars not someone who buys a tank and doesn't know how to play and immediately slaps gold ammo into the cannon.

 

WG has buffed armor pretty much across the board for the last few years and released some really stupid tanks like the Type 4 and 5. Add to that the fact that people are swimming in credits and gold will fly back and forth. Simple as that. 



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View Postvixu, on 29 September 2019 - 12:34 PM, said:

Bobs spam gold because they can. 

 

As for the ***** proof tanks... it is a point of view "that all should be penetratable from any direction". I, for one, don't share it. 

On the side note, I generally don't use prem ammo (only in very rare missions when damage counts) and I cannot say that w/o it you cannot do anything. 


im not saying it should be penetratable from any direction but just any kind of existing weakspot on the front and not braindead layouts like type5 which is near impossible to pen frontally with standard ammo, same for bunch other tanks

 

 






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