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[SaintMaddenus]

its a small sample I know but I have played 11 games in T28 Prot and have lost them all.  I'm not even being carried.  I know I am not good but should I just go afk to get my win rate up to 45% in this vehicle.  Bots have better win rate than me...  I know I am not contributing much to each battle, I bounce a lot.  I've noticed that most of my battles in this have actually been all T8 so I am quite happy with that. BUT....

[Balc0ra]

I had a bad early streak in both T28's back in the day that took time to fix before I sold them. My record tho is 1 win on the first 20 battles in the T54E1. And it took a while to get to 40% again even.  But my record for most wins is also 19. As in 1 loss after 20 battles on the T28 F30. So win some lose some as they say.

[PowJay]

See my Skorpion G? I had it as a rental and then in a loot box. I have tried playing it with an excellent crew and I think it is at 14 wins out of 54 battles.

[SaintMaddenus]

ok it's just a craphappens streak...   thanks  If I get past 20 at 0% I'll share again

[jabster]

If it's any help I had quite the opposite 'problem' in the T-43. First eleven games with ten wins and I could count on one finger the games where I made any useful contribution to the team.

[Alukat123]

SaintMaddenus, on 01 October 2019 - 10:48 AM, said:

 I know I am not contributing much to each battle, I bounce a lot.  

 

why would you think you're not contributing much? Each shot you bounce is teams health saved ,which allows your teammates and yourself to do more shots.

I had tier 9 games with 500-2000 damage dealt (1-4 pens) myself and 11k bounced, which were easy wins ^^

 

don't underestimate the impact a lot of bouncing can have.

 

Edit: in that context you meant your shots are bouncing? xD

Edited by Alukat123, 01 October 2019 - 12:28 PM.

[Bulldog_Drummond]

SaintMaddenus, on 01 October 2019 - 09:48 AM, said:

its a small sample I know but I have played 11 games in T28 Prot and have lost them all.  I'm not even being carried.  I know I am not good but should I just go afk to get my win rate up to 45% in this vehicle.  Bots have better win rate than me...  I know I am not contributing much to each battle, I bounce a lot.  I've noticed that most of my battles in this have actually been all T8 so I am quite happy with that. BUT....

 

I have some new tanks in which I do abysmally at first.  Sometimes it is fluke or just my playing the tank in the wrong way, but after two or three dozen games it is usually very clear whether or not it suits me.  Sometimes it works out and the w/r climbs back up, other times I just sell or mothball it.

[Orkbert]

SaintMaddenus, on 01 October 2019 - 10:48 AM, said:

its a small sample I know but I have played 11 games in T28 Prot and have lost them all.  I'm not even being carried.  I know I am not good but should I just go afk to get my win rate up to 45% in this vehicle.  Bots have better win rate than me...  I know I am not contributing much to each battle, I bounce a lot.  I've noticed that most of my battles in this have actually been all T8 so I am quite happy with that. BUT....

 

As you said, it is a small sample. Actually too small. With my French G1R at eleven Battles I had a 91% win rate and with my average damage on it it was pretty obvious that I was carried through most of the victories.

 

Below 50 battles the win rate means nothing.

Around 100 battles the win rate means not much.

Only around 200~250 battles the win rate starts to have a meaning and it still can change even after that.

 

And while it is not directly about the win rates, with my VK 28.01 it took me more than twenty battles to actually survive a battle.

 

Nowadays my win rate with it is good enough (54%) but the overall survival rate is still very low (below 10%)

 

Edited by Orkbert, 01 October 2019 - 01:12 PM.

[prskanje]

My global WR is dropping these days thanks to all the stock tanks I've bought on discount.

Bad streaks happen. Good streaks happen too. Today I'll need at least 30 games if I want to do all the daily doubles.

But the time will come when that bad luck will change. And I am looking forward to it.

[Tealo]

The MM has been changed, it's obvious if you use xvm, The old one side loaded up with unicums (with 2 or 3 tomatoes) Vs 3 average or above players with tomaotes doesn't happen any more, the teams are much more mixed skill wise ie there is less yo-yoing from one extreme to another.. The MM is less likely to give out a almost auto win like it used to, which in turn means less likely the MM will assemble a almost impossible to win match..

  Recently I had a 9 game win streak and I wasn't really playing, so I've had the opposite..Also I've noticed my win rate goes up and down like a yo yo, from a 28% (10 games) win rate to 52% win rate (approx 30 games) to dropping again to 49% in one day..

The MM is recently alot more balanced which means alot more games which can go either way, the down side is you are more reliant on your team, at the very least not suiciding or simply throwing their tank away..In turn 'The Team' is more dependant on me not to do the same.. Not simply throw my tank away in a stupid move, because I got bored with a perticular match due to mostly a rompa stomp (stomping or being stomped) or bad team positining/lemming trains.

Edited by Tealo, 01 October 2019 - 01:38 PM.

[Gruff_]

I feel a toon coming on

[Dorander]

jabster, on 01 October 2019 - 10:03 AM, said:

If it's any help I had quite the opposite 'problem' in the T-43. First eleven games with ten wins and I could count on one finger the games where I made any useful contribution to the team.

Was SaintMaddenus on the opposite team every time? 

[jabster]

Dorander, on 01 October 2019 - 04:18 PM, said:

Was SaintMaddenus on the opposite team every time? 

My favourite one of those games was when it got down to 4 vs. 4 but we weren’t looking in good shape so I decided to rush to the cap to try and take the pressure of. I waited and waited but still none of their players had moved. Ermm, one of their tanks has now thought they need to reset the cap and disappears from the mini-map. The clock counts down and just as a T-54 appears and fires, well game won by cap.

[ThorgrimBrenadim]

SaintMaddenus, on 01 October 2019 - 10:48 AM, said:

its a small sample I know but I have played 11 games in T28 Prot and have lost them all.  I'm not even being carried.  I know I am not good but should I just go afk to get my win rate up to 45% in this vehicle.  Bots have better win rate than me...  I know I am not contributing much to each battle, I bounce a lot.  I've noticed that most of my battles in this have actually been all T8 so I am quite happy with that. BUT....

I was going to say a monkey could play better...………… But then I saw your avitar LOL so no comment there

 

Look on the bright side with a ZERO yes lets say it again ZERO ! win rate at least the worst is it stays the same but in reality there will at least be that fluke game that is won and hey  YOUR WIN RATE WENT UP

[Sultz33]

My advice is play the T28 proto for 50 games and if things are still bad then just sell it.

 

Some tanks just dont seem to work regardless of what you do. Cent 1 is one of mine.

[__Eric__]

Gruff_, on 01 October 2019 - 03:55 PM, said:

I feel a toon coming on

I am not tooning with Saint if he is gonna play the T-28 prot

[Yaccay]

I had a bad streak of 13 games in a row.

0 win.

With a tier IX heavy, which I have 52.5% winrate.

[Baldrickk]

My Proto seems to keep winning.

I had a similar streak in the Chariotteer though.
Not quite 0% but close.
I actually stuck my ~25 Chariotteer replays in my analyser and watched the line actually diverge away from zero as the battles went on.
All my other tanks that I was playing around it were fine. Just a run of increasingly bad luck in the Chariotteer.

It got better.

[Sirebellus]

11 out of 11 losses, I can't match that, but my three 'worst' tanks are

VK30-01D - 16 games played, 2 wins 12.5% WR

Dicker Max - 17 games played, 3 wins 17.65% WR

AMX AC46 - 11 games played, 2 wins 18.18%WR

 

I don't think I actually played badly in these vehicles (certainly in the 2 TD'S I have played okay), I just haven't had the right 'luck' to get to a respectable WR in the first games on these tanks

 

But then there are the tanks where I have had the luck, such as

 

Churchill Gun Carrier - 14 games played, 11 wins 78.57% WR (and a Kolobanovs medal)

 

It's just Swings and Roundabouts...
 

[Falathi]

Sometimes it just happens and there`s a streak of defeats. 
In some cases it can be caused by our lack of knowledge of the tank. It can also be a lack of good crew, or a stroke of bad luck, or bad gameplay, like something that happened to me a lot of times when I played way too aggressive, ended in the garage early and couldn`t contribute to the battle outcome, thus weakening the team. 

 

Speaking of cases: my first series of battles with LT-432, which isn`t really a bad tank ended with a whopping 17% WR. And I even had a pretty OK crew. 

However, later came a streak of victories, or mostly won battles so in the end the WR got balanced out. I believe that in case of the author of the thread something similar will happen as well )